don't think you mention what he actually said by way of abuse ? from experience pretty hard to hear what someone is saying at 25knots with wind in your ears. nonetheless.....
have sailed in the pond heaps and a) almost killed a kiter because he jumped in front of me without looking when i was down wind of him. had to crash bail. when he realised what happened, he said " i didn't see you". He didn't even look ! b) almost got thumped by a kiter who lost his kite - result - crash bail again to avoid injury. Did I abuse either party, no, but certainly made my displeasure obvious without being rude.
It is a shame your GF got the rough end of the pineapple from this guy and not suggesting she was in the wrong. However, with the increasing amount of kiters in the pond, they need to (and many are not), conscious of the amount of room they take up and boosting a 30m jump may not always be the best course of action for those (kites and poles) sailing down wind of you ! I am yet to see a kiter in that situation ever acknowledge that they made a gross error of judgement by putting those around them at risk.
Thanks everyone for the replies, most of which were very helpful and aimed at a positive solution and being very reasonable. Appreciate this. The few others, labelling me without knowing me or the story, thanks for nothing. I can't blame you though. I learned something and perhaps you can be less judgemental towards the next person who enters your forum being honest and direct. I get the agressive and agitated attitude bit as well. All good. Will just assume it was a one off and chill out. Cheers everyone.
OMG.
lol.
You called her "pretty boring".
Ooopps.
No nooky nooky for at least one calendar month.
I'm calling troll on this one! It never happened Cmon kiter and girlfriend don't add up. Kiter and boyfriend more believable story ![]()
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Will just assume it was a one off and chill out. Cheers everyone.
Like I've said a few times - I'll let something (like this) happen once and write it off as a mistake. Everyone gets one chance. If it happens again. There will be issues.
Will just assume it was a one off and chill out. Cheers everyone.
Like I've said a few times - I'll let something (like this) happen once and write it off as a mistake. Everyone gets one chance. If it happens again. There will be issues.
WOW, you're the man
Everyone at Safety Bay seemed pretty chilled and smiley today
Read this thread probably
Will just assume it was a one off and chill out. Cheers everyone.
Like I've said a few times - I'll let something (like this) happen once and write it off as a mistake. Everyone gets one chance. If it happens again. There will be issues.
WOW, you're the man
shux, thanks dude! ![]()
I'm calling troll on this one! It never happened Cmon kiter and girlfriend don't add up. Kiter and boyfriend more believable story ![]()
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Funny coming from someone calling himself rider while rubbing his parts against a pole and referring to sexual preferences. I think it is a good time to leave this forum. Ride hard ![]()
Wow, I'm really, really scared now, time to take up knitting.
Scared of aging? Me too. All the best to you and the knitting!
I was there today and had a great time. I was one of the first in the water (2pm) and when I left around 5 pm there were max 10 windsurfers in the whole area. One of the quietest windy days for windsurfing in Pond for a long time. In the meantime the place was packed with kites.
We all need to watch out for everyone, I lost count how many times I had to change course/bail/crash etc to avoid issues with both Windsurfers and Kiters. I never ever yelled anyone in 20 years in the sport.
We all need to change course (both Windsurfers ans Kiters) in the shallower downwind area inside the pond (otherwise we would run aground), however lots of kiters use that ''dead end'' as a jumping area which is not recommended for obvious reasons.
Chill out, relax, sail well and with common sense there is room for everyone.
I was there today and had a great time. I was one of the first in the water (2pm) and when I left around 5 pm there were max 10 windsurfers in the whole area. One of the quietest windy days for windsurfing in Pond for a long time. In the meantime the place was packed with kites.
We all need to watch out for everyone, I lost count how many times I had to change course/bail/crash etc to avoid issues with both Windsurfers and Kiters. I never ever yelled anyone in 20 years in the sport.
We all need to change course (both Windsurfers ans Kiters) in the shallower downwind area inside the pond (otherwise we would run aground), however lots of kiters use that ''dead end'' as a jumping area which is not recommended for obvious reasons.
Chill out, relax, sail well and with common sense there is room for everyone.
Agree with you. I avoid the shallow northern end of the pond as this is firs of all the launching spot for most kiters so why would one ride all the way in. Furthermore, the risk of injury due to fins getting stuck, or even more severe landing/crashing in shallow water which has lead to serious spinal injuiry before. The other area to be extra cautious with is the tip of the sand bank i.e. the small space between the "island" and the boat channel markers. Various kiters wrap their lines around the markers regularly and crashing into the marker as a result of someone not giving way and forcing the person to change course suddenly in this very limited space may have a bad outcome. The sailing boat now just sitting downwind of that area is a real hazard too. Enjoy, as you said, it can work if people are willing... but when the place is maxed out this will always be a challenge as the stress levels increase sadly but truly.
The poley sounds like a bit of a douche, but then so do you for wanting to "meet up" with him. Sailing close to her and yelling abuse is perhaps out of order, but you don't know the circumstances. You're naturally going to take your gf's side in this and assume she did nothing wrong, but maybe she did. Maybe she's completely unaware of what she did wrong. I was windsurfing up at Lano in pretty strong conditions came flying in and went to gybe then just caught sight of some Euro chick who came flying back into the beach at some obscure angle and almost collided with me. I jumped off and narrowly avoided being collected at 35km/hr+ - that would have been trashed gear + hospital. She was completely oblivious to what she'd done and was merrily waving to her boyfriend on the beach and I let loose with a few expletives, primarily because I had just shat myself and also because of her careless attitude. I don't give a @h!t if someone drops in on me or gets too close, but I do care about having my board/sail/legs broken. Fast forward an hour and I'm on the beach de-rigging and I can see her and her b/f plus mates glaring at me and so I wander over, apologise for my outburst, but then explain what she did. She was completely unaware, apologised and all was good. So perhaps your g/f unwittingly did something that almost injured the poley?
Irrespectively she sounds like a strong, independent woman, this isn't the 1950s, she doesn't need you to fight her battles for her. If she's going to windsurf, surf, kite etc you both need to expect that if she fücks up, people are entitled to give her a spray, especially if someones health is threatened. If neither of you can cope with this, then she should take up netball or some other girly sport. I will reiterate sailing close to her and risking a collision is not cool, but if I were her, I'd assume I'd made a mistake and get over it.
Russ hats of for sticking up for your girlfriend but really putting a hit out for a wind wanker on seabreeze for saying something to your girlfriend or passing close or what ever.............hmmmmmmm rotary hoe
Right or wrong / keep it on the water /// sort it there and then and get over it .........
Get some relationship counseling ............mean time if she needs a shoulder to cry on ill help find this brother in arms
Ps ill need to see a picture first / i need both arms
A table mounted in the rigging areas showing the navigational rules in pictures could be beneficial ?
If she was hot looking it wouldn't have happened.
I wasn't going to answer to your second rather boring attempt to trigger a response. But here is some FOC help for you. The proper English word for Meister is Master. Back to school mate. Off you go.
Russ hats of for sticking up for your girlfriend but really putting a hit out for a wind wanker on seabreeze for saying something to your girlfriend or passing close or what ever.............hmmmmmmm rotary hoe
Right or wrong / keep it on the water /// sort it there and then and get over it .........
Get some relationship counseling ............mean time if she needs a shoulder to cry on ill help find this brother in arms
Ps ill need to see a picture first / i need both arms
I sort of tried to take it to the water initially as I believe it needs to be sorted on the spot.
With regards to your erection problems I am sorry you will have to seek professional help elsewhere
The poley sounds like a bit of a douche, but then so do you for wanting to "meet up" with him. Sailing close to her and yelling abuse is perhaps out of order, but you don't know the circumstances. You're naturally going to take your gf's side in this and assume she did nothing wrong, but maybe she did. Maybe she's completely unaware of what she did wrong. I was windsurfing up at Lano in pretty strong conditions came flying in and went to gybe then just caught sight of some Euro chick who came flying back into the beach at some obscure angle and almost collided with me. I jumped off and narrowly avoided being collected at 35km/hr+ - that would have been trashed gear + hospital. She was completely oblivious to what she'd done and was merrily waving to her boyfriend on the beach and I let loose with a few expletives, primarily because I had just shat myself and also because of her careless attitude. I don't give a @h!t if someone drops in on me or gets too close, but I do care about having my board/sail/legs broken. Fast forward an hour and I'm on the beach de-rigging and I can see her and her b/f plus mates glaring at me and so I wander over, apologise for my outburst, but then explain what she did. She was completely unaware, apologised and all was good. So perhaps your g/f unwittingly did something that almost injured the poley?
Irrespectively she sounds like a strong, independent woman, this isn't the 1950s, she doesn't need you to fight her battles for her. If she's going to windsurf, surf, kite etc you both need to expect that if she fücks up, people are entitled to give her a spray, especially if someones health is threatened. If neither of you can cope with this, then she should take up netball or some other girly sport. I will reiterate sailing close to her and risking a collision is not cool, but if I were her, I'd assume I'd made a mistake and get over it.
As I said before she is going up and down the same path pretty much, so a very predictable for everyone route. No upwind or downwind jerks. I think the perception of crossing others' ways is that you guys go harder upwind and shoot further downwind than us in most situations. Maybe this contributes to some misunderstanding?
With regards to kiting vs. netball. Kiting does not require a lot of muscles really, it is more technical. So if my gf was less feminine I agree she should have probably joined the netball team
I believe in equal rights. So women can join kiting, wind surfing or whatever. We are a modern developed country. However, this does not mean that we expect them to work on their guns, take boxing lessons, and yell at those blokes who intimidate them, pick a fight etc.
We can still appreciate they are physically weaker while otherwise equal. My opinion anyway.
PS. I asked Laurie to delete this thread as (and I am not talking about your comment at all) has more entertainment value for some at this stage and I don't have time to go back and comment on everything. Thanks again for some good advise and comments despite the grumpy start. All the other trolls and bad ass mofos who's only intention was to stirr me up, go f$ck youself.
Enjoy everyone.
Finally, I strongly believe that inappropriate response, if going to far, will most likely trigger some less than polite response. We are humans and while I believe staying calm and chillax is a better response I may not always be able to do so. But what I am doing, and will continue to do is to apply a friendly body language and smile, wave etc to those who do the same. Unfortunately some bring their frustration into the sport and this is the cause of it all.
Think the problem is some think that being friendly in general is a weakness. I leave it at that. Cheers.
The poley sounds like a bit of a douche, but then so do you for wanting to "meet up" with him. Sailing close to her and yelling abuse is perhaps out of order, but you don't know the circumstances. You're naturally going to take your gf's side in this and assume she did nothing wrong, but maybe she did. Maybe she's completely unaware of what she did wrong. I was windsurfing up at Lano in pretty strong conditions came flying in and went to gybe then just caught sight of some Euro chick who came flying back into the beach at some obscure angle and almost collided with me. I jumped off and narrowly avoided being collected at 35km/hr+ - that would have been trashed gear + hospital. She was completely oblivious to what she'd done and was merrily waving to her boyfriend on the beach and I let loose with a few expletives, primarily because I had just shat myself and also because of her careless attitude. I don't give a @h!t if someone drops in on me or gets too close, but I do care about having my board/sail/legs broken. Fast forward an hour and I'm on the beach de-rigging and I can see her and her b/f plus mates glaring at me and so I wander over, apologise for my outburst, but then explain what she did. She was completely unaware, apologised and all was good. So perhaps your g/f unwittingly did something that almost injured the poley?
Irrespectively she sounds like a strong, independent woman, this isn't the 1950s, she doesn't need you to fight her battles for her. If she's going to windsurf, surf, kite etc you both need to expect that if she fücks up, people are entitled to give her a spray, especially if someones health is threatened. If neither of you can cope with this, then she should take up netball or some other girly sport. I will reiterate sailing close to her and risking a collision is not cool, but if I were her, I'd assume I'd made a mistake and get over it.
As I said before she is going up and down the same path pretty much, so a very predictable for everyone route. No upwind or downwind jerks. I think the perception of crossing others' ways is that you guys go harder upwind and shoot further downwind than us in most situations. Maybe this contributes to some misunderstanding?
Yeah probably a misunderstanding and like I said the poley was being a douche, hopefully she's not been put off kiting. I generally sail quiet spots so thankfully don't have to deal with crowds
All of this reminds me of the ''unwritten'' rules of a typical skatepark where you have skateboards (me one of them), inline rollerskaters, BMX's, rollerboards and even small kids with a cartoon box using the miniramp as a ''slide''. Somehow we managed to make it work and all have a go (the small kids included).
All of this reminds me of the ''unwritten'' rules of a typical skatepark where you have skateboards (me one of them), inline rollerskaters, BMX's, rollerboards and even small kids with a cartoon box using the miniramp as a ''slide''. Somehow we managed to make it work and all have a go (the small kids included).
Its all good fun until the dads get involved... oh and the boyfriends.
All of this reminds me of the ''unwritten'' rules of a typical skatepark where you have skateboards (me one of them), inline rollerskaters, BMX's, rollerboards and even small kids with a cartoon box using the miniramp as a ''slide''. Somehow we managed to make it work and all have a go (the small kids included).
I often watch Skate parks (wish they had them when I was younger) when stuck in traffic and I never cease to be amazed with the organization which naturally occurs, as you say big kids little kids different disciplines and they all just work together.
A lot of people could learn a lot from the skate park crew
Just let it go everyone.
Russ has had his rant, had some explanations and some satisfaction and generously apologised.
end of story.
If you are going to use this thread to troll and stir up discontent then you are no better than either of the agro people mentioned.
There was a farmer who grew excellent quality corn. Every year he won the award for the best grown corn. One year a newspaper reporter interviewed him and learned something interesting about how he grew it. The reporter discovered that the farmer shared his seed corn with his neighbors. “How can you afford to share your best seed corn with your neighbors when they are entering corn in competition with yours each year?” the reporter asked.
“Why sir,” said the farmer, “Didn’t you know? The wind picks up pollen from the ripening corn and swirls it from field to field. If my neighbors grow inferior corn, cross-pollination will steadily degrade the quality of my corn. If I am to grow good corn, I must help my neighbors grow good corn.”
So is with our lives... Those who want to live meaningfully and well must help enrich the lives of others, for the value of a life is measured by the lives it touches. And those who choose to be happy must help others find happiness, for the welfare of each is bound up with the welfare of all...
While all this fighting is going could you all keep a lookout for my mast I left at the beach on wednesday 3rd feb? Its an ezzy 430 carbon mast rdm. I left it near the tap and shower in the windsurfing rigging area at the pond close ro bent street jetty.
I will be wearing my new helmet design in the pond in future in case I am mistaken for the guy thay may (or may not) have frightened somebodys girlfriend...
^^ Well said!
Less fighting, more cross- pollinating.
Latest roamer is phone numbers were exchanged before an a elaborate and sophisticated story was hatched to fool all at the beach of the pending romance