WAVE BOARDS 2019-2025

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Stefano W-surf said..

Taavi said..
Note that you are not going particularly fast there, and in all the turns you are sliding, not engaging the rail at all. This is not how pyramids behave, not at all.

The video is only here to highlight with images the flaw I was complaining about. However, that day I immediately felt that the Pyramid was too nervous even at that low speed, so I preferred to return to shore immediately...

You keep saying it's the flaw of the board, yet you do not seem to be critical of any of the other variables which there are many. From what I can see your control issues boil down to the technique and to the way you have set it all up. See, you are not putting the board on the rail.


It's difficult to say based on your short clip what's the main reason for lacking control, but I would look through and be critical to everything in your setup:
- is your stance wide enough
- are your feet deep enough in the foot straps (especially important in the bottom turns when using a board that's fairly big for you)
- are you putting enough pressure to the front of the board through the rig, via the mast base
- are you using correct fins with your board, that would actually help setting it up for speed and control

To make this board work you need to have more rail in the water. Period. There cannot be any control if you set it up so that you can only keep the very last portion of the tail area in the water. This is what creates this nose bouncing up and down effect for you.

And similarly, even when riding in a straight line, while not turning, it's also important to pay attention to which part of the bottom you are actually riding. The pyramids have a fair bit of tail rocker, and especially when you are light weight and riding a bigger board size (less than 70 kg, 87 L board, as you said), you may unintentionally be riding just the tail rocker, with the nose of the board pointing up too much and the mast base portion and your whole rig levitating in the air. Again, this would cause the bouncing up and down. And that has not so much to do with the V or mono concave in the bottom shape, as you seem to think. Instead, the balanced feel and the control would come through the leverage, that is by applying a correct amount of pressure to the board through the mast base and through your stance, and by how draggy are your fins, etc. Lots and lots of variables there.

And notice how the same happens to you in the top turns as well. The fins that you have selected do not provide enough hold and slide out. With a thruster setup you cannot rely that much on fins only, especially when you have decided to use 2-3 cm shorter center fin as you did. You need to use the rail of the board as well, which you don't. Quad fins are generally more forgiving there, and provide better grip.


In the top turns, put the board on the rail, don't expect just the fins to provide enough grip for you to have control in the turn. Something like this.

you know what is a massive pain in the dick in Aus is that we have bugger all wave boards to actually buy. i.e., I can't find a hyper for sale, or a Naish, and they actually look really good.

and even worse is the price. it's killing the industry in Aus. 4K for a board, that I will destroy in a couple of seasons at best.

For me I like the previous shape of the JP radical thruster extreme slay machine quad. yes its got horrible graphics but the board feels so good, in big waves, and small waves. I like the previous quarto pyramid (haven't tried the new one) but the price.

I suppose a lot of the production boards are made for a one size fits all, but none fit well market. for example, look at quarto production boards, vs all the boards they put on insta. very different.

Imagine a world where you could order a board that you want through a service similar to Ali express, per order, you pay shipping, you get the board.

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curac said..

Imagine a world where you could order a board that you want through a service similar to Ali express, per order, you pay shipping, you get the board.

Some brands are doing Fedex with boards in Australia now- waveboards to your door in 8 days! from Europe warehouse

^^ was just about to say that lol

$3K and lasts.

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Mark _australia said..
^^ was just about to say that lol

$3K and lasts.

Bargain!.boards look and work great..

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ptsf1111 said..


Just checked a brand new Flywave, delivered to Australia for AUD 3,040. That's more than reasonable pricing, strong boards and probably better than custom for most people.

Sorry not that cheap.. ( Presume you are going off Simmer international website)
I deal with simmer so know how it all goes. The final price at checkout is what you pay Simmer then once it leaves the country its up to customer to pay all duties
The price you quoted is delivered to Customs door!!, Not the customers door
Then you pay import duty and gst
so add about 20-25%!!

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Captain_Morg said...

Sorry not that cheap.. ( Presume you are going off Simmer international website)
I deal with simmer so know how it all goes. The final price at checkout is what you pay Simmer then once it leaves the country its up to customer to pay all duties
The price you quoted is delivered to Customs door!!, Not the customers door
Then you pay import duty and gst
so add about 20-25%!!

I didn't say it's cheap

Still with the duty and GST it's about half of the 7k quoted above so that's more than reasonable.

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Brent in Qld said..
Personally I blame Luigi. 'We're not fancy, but we're cheap!' became an umbrella philosophy in WA. But hey, at least now there's Temu (a global version of WA Salvage on steroids) for those who want new product that has no associated development costs...

Ha ha hilarious