Just splashed out and brought 3 new 2007 Ezzy wave sails. What can I say apart from BOMB proof and extremely nice to sail. If yr thinking about it bite the bullet. ![]()
What a timely post. I’m interested in the 07 SEs. Just interested to ask, what sizes did you get and/or what increments did you choose between your sails?
With the reported greater windrange of the products, due to the refined/exaggerated forward draught (which from piccies almost make it look like a camber induced sail), I may be able to purchase fewer sails for my quiver?
I was going to go the 2006 models to save a few dollars, going 6, 5.5, 5, 4.5, but with the 07s, I may be able to get away with 6, 5.2, 4.5? What do you reackon?
Thanks
Adam
AJEaster, I Purchased a 4.5, 5.2, 5.8 and so far so good. They definitely have a much greater wind range than anything else I’ve used so I'm very happy. I too was looking at buying new 06 models but there was only a couple of hundred difference so I just went for it. They sure are sexy sails! Good luck!
I'm also in the market for a couple of new waves sails myself, had pretty much decided on the Ezzy as for the price you can't match them. Also in 07 they look purdy, wasn't a fan of that black luff from 06.
I was thinking 4.7, 5.2, 5.8. Might hold off on the 5.8 as i'm not really keen on using that size in the waves and the 5.2 might turn out to be pretty grunty; plus i'm a lightweight :D
I weigh about 98kgs and used to sail my old Simmer 6.1 a lot. I've found this 5.8 Ezzy to be loads more powerful. If your a light chat then I'd recommend the 5.2 or 5.5. These sails really are the dog’s bullocks. Yet to try them out on any waves, that will have to wait till the new year!
Here is a comparitive review that recently came in:
Note this is porbably an 06 Ezzy wave sail being compared - NOT the new ones. Just found out that they were all the 2007 Ezzy sails.
Hi Everyone,
Thought you might like an unbiased opinion from a reputable source comparing Severne with Ezzy. The author, Tim Fithardinge, is a respected long time wave slayer from Dongara who has been involved with R and D in the industry from the very beginning of the sport and has a deep knowledge of how and why equipment does or doesn’t work. The fact that makes his opinion even more worthy is that he is not sponsored and has no business connection with either brand. He just know’s what he likes…….
From: Tim F
Sent: Thursday, 30 November 2006 10:01 PM
To: Tim Carr
Subject: Blades for Christmas
Hi Tim,
Got to have a really good sail on the 80 Evo and 5.3 Blade. Little bit under powered at first and then maxed out at times towards the end, head high waves, cross shore at the beginning then cross-off at the end, so basically it was a good test session for the sail.
I must say I was very impressed. It did pretty much everything we were talking about. Still really good drive of the bottom but it's so neutral when your at the top of the wave so you can just let the board do the talking. It feels very precise compared to the Ezzy. The power is on and off so quickly and easily that you don't really have to think about what the sail is doing all the time. The Ezzy's definitely react a lot slower and you have to be constantly compensating for the delayed reaction.
( Just in case anyone else reads this I'm not trying to run down Ezzy's, they make an honest product. It just my personal experience and I'm talking about high level performance that most sailors may or may not need ).
So, the way I see it I can't really afford not be using these sails. The possibilities of what you can do on a wave are always evolving, but you are limited to a certain degree by your equipment. Bring on the "revolution" as they say. ( I'm not waiting for it, I'm going to start it ).
Anyway could you get me a 4.2 and a 5.7. If you want to trade my Ezzy's I could go all the way and get a 3.7, 5.0 and 6.3 as well.
i felt like a splash when i woke up this morning so i went and conned the oldies into buying me a new sail. feels gooood![]()
especially when the forecast is awesome for the rest of the week.
Yeah thanks for that Auswind.... The Ezzy's are better built than the Severnes....I don't care what anyone says....and that makes up for a lot in big powerful waves....
I tend to disagree with the whole 'slower' part of that review. Because the Ezzy's have a much more 'locked in' draft position they are much more stable than most wave sails and don't load/unload the arms as much as others. This in turn makes them feel different to most sails that require wind in order to make their shape; to an extent 'less dynamic'. Some people like it, others don't, horses for courses really. Norths, or at least the older Norths (DrX etc) are similar. And coming from Norths it's not an unfamiliar feeling to me :)
Got my 07 SEs just before xmas........4.5, 5.2, 5.8. Orange colour.....cant miss them on the water, they look fantastic.
Completely different rigging style to my North sails......bit less down haul and a lot more outhaul. Low end power in the sails when rigged for lighter wind conditions is teriffic, almost like a lightly cambered sail. Gave the 5.8 a run at Pelican Point and the stability and power in bump/jump/blast conditions was far better then expected. Next day sailed at Dutchies (still no surf to speak of) with my 5.2. Rigged with more outhaul to take some shape out of the sail (and to suit the stronger wind) and to lock the profile......was awesome......very stable, in the stronger gusts it didnt want to pull me off the board and face plant me....it just made me go faster! Even outhauled to max, there is still some built in shape in the sail, which has made me change my gybing style in the surf.......as there is a distinct power surge when the sail is flicked to the next tack......no problems tho, like everything, just need to get used to new gear.
I experimented with rigging quite a bit, and found that getting the downhaul correct for the wind/ocean conditions when first rigging is crucial as this in turn effects how the outhaul changes the sails performance. After buying, watch the rigging guide on www.Ezzy.com to get the most out of it. For people who already have Ezzy sails the rigging probably wont be too much different (except for more outhaul…..but you still have the rigging string guide at the clew so you cant go too wrong), but coming from other brands the rigging is certainly different.
All in all, I love them………I cant wait to get them back home (live in Port Macquarie in NSW) to try them in some consistent waves, they should be terrific for cross-onshore backhand wave riding with all the dispensable power.
Ezzy 2007 SE: bomb proof but not Monkey Proof!!
After been a loyal Ezzy SE fan for 3 seasons now i was super keen to try the new 2007 with its increased low end power, as at 89kg i sometimes take a bit to get up and going.
I agree with all the pro 2007 posts it is a great sail.
However, after only using it six times I fell on it, a very embrassing non planning catapult, and promptly went straight through the panel just above the boom. Guttered. The look on the other sailors faces on the beach was a picture as walked up with a brand new 5.8 from the beach with a hole in it, not what you'd expect, as the sea was flat as.
To be fair to the sail i did, unfortunately, hit it with my elbow as i had an injured neck and didn't want make it worse so i must have just tensed up mid flight.
Although saying that i have been bouncing off ezzy SE's for a few years now and this is my first one with a hole in it.
I have since had the sail repaired, a great job done here in WA, and am happy to report the sail is just like new, although it isn't.
Saying all that, i would, and probably will replace old sails i have with 2007 SE's and just keep my elbows in !!!
Did you burst a panel or just blow out a seam? It's always way easier to to re-stich a seam vs replace a panel and it seems when an Ezzy goes (unless there reef/rock) involved it's just a burst seam.
Got out for the first time on my 07 4.7 wave SE today. Trying to think of the right word to describe it, sublime might be close :D
went straight through the panel. No dramas really, had a great sail on it on Friday and it performed perfectly.
took my 5.8 out in ocean yesteday at Dutch Inn (WA). No surf, just bumps........I usually dont like to use sails this big on a waveboard but it was so balanced and comfortable. I left some shape in the sail to give it some power, and I was planning on my 85L board whilst others with similar size sails (5.8 - 6) were grovelling!
I can honestly say that these sails work so well flattened out as well as bagged out across the range.......so versatile. As yet I have only used my 5.8 and 5.2, I am not yet lucky enough like CJW to use my sub-5m sails, but my wife has used the 4.5 and she loves the balance and power too.
These sails are winners, go try them and you will not be dissappointed.
Plus you get a cool little mini Ezzy sail in the from of a keyring with each sail, who can turn that down haha :D
About the new 07 Ezzy wave sails. I have been using Ezzy's for the past 6 seasons and was always very happy with the product. Purchased a 4.7 and 5.2 at the start of the season and was disappointed with the new shape (fortunately kept my 5.8 and 4.2 from the previous season). I stuck it out with them for a couple of months trying to figure them out but in the end traded them in for a set of Severne Renegades which are a much more responsive user friendly sail with better top end. Whether the Severnes can handle the punishment that the Ezzy will take is to be seen. You really need to try other products in order to find out what works for you. No offense to the die hard Ezzy fans (I was once one) but this new model does not stack up against previous models or the new Severne Renegade in my opinion.
Ok, travelling back to NSW from WA. Stopped at Adelaide on Sunday and got some great sailing off Brighton Beach. Used my 07 4.5m for the first time. Some guys had 4m and some had 5m. I found that when the squalls were in, just flattening the sail with an extra 3cm+ of outhaul was enough to lock the draft fwd, flattening the camber nicely, taking out the overpowered feeling, giving a terrific top end. Once the squalls had gone, dropping the outhaul back to the average setting worked well, giving extra low down power to keep me planning through the lulls. In doing this I did not need to change up or down sail size, or sit on the beach when the squalls hit. I am won over by the wind range of these things.
sando, I agree, the rigging of the new ezzy's really goes against the conventional rigging mantra of "stacks of down haul and just a smidge of outhaul", so it takes a little getting used to. I am finding now after a month of sailing that these sails are easy and quick to rig. The renegades are nice sails too, they were running a close second choice to the ezzys, Good luck and happy sailing mate.
PS. There were some great sailors ripping out there, big fwd+back loops, push loops, huge flakas and shove its....really spurred me on to try stuff.......landed my first back loop in inspiration (after seasons of trying!
I just sold my Ezzy 5m and bought a Tushie Rock 5m.
The Rock poos all over the Ezzy.
I sailed the Ezzy for the last 2 seasons and compare it to a 4 cylinder. Used the Rock 3 times and feels like a V8. The wind range is 100 times more than the Ezzy. The bottom end is more powerful. The Rock is more stable and in the gusts the Rock just accelerates.
The Ezzy was limited in wind range. The Ezzy seemed less forgiving in gusts and the preset sail just didnt cut it anymore.
I was a die hard Ezzy fan through and through.
Tushie Rocks are just as bomb proof as Ezzy. The way they sit on the mast and fill out looks sick and feels great![]()
I seriously don't understand these claims that the Ezzy's don't have a good wind range (I can only go by the 2007 wave SE's). From my experience they have a biggest wind range of any wave sail i've used. Their top end wind range (staying stable/controllable) is particularly good imo. Sure, you can't rig them in one position to fully utilise their range, you have to tune them to the wind but that's the same with any other sail.
I'm not a die hard Ezzy fan but after my last set of wave sails (North) gave up the ghost I decided that the price/performance/quality ratio of the Ezzy's is just too good to pass up. I've had Pryde, Gaastra, Naish and North and the Ezzy's are my favourite, followed closely by north. I loved my Drx's, top sails (new Norths are horrible imo).
End of the day though I guess it comes back to that age old adage, horses for courses :)
Haven't tried the Rock but even if it does have superhuman qualities I feel it's far fetched to say the Ezzys are limited in range.
I bought a 5.5 at the beginning of the season to replace a beloved but ultimately butchered Naish Force. I used the Force maybe 40% of the time; I use the new Ezzy 80% of the time. For low end grunt it's not that far off my Blade 6.2 but the Ezzy apart from being smaller rotates easier and gives me loads more confidence bashing around in the surf. It's power is also smooth unlike the Blade's.
These days I'm often on the water while my buddies are still angsting over sail selection up and down. 'Rerigging' is just a matter of tweaking downhaul and outhaul on the beach.
Granted if you like/are used to flat or neutral sails the new Ezzys may not appeal so much(including those who are used to older Ezzy sails) but for the rest of us Ezzys ... rock ...big time.
CJW,
What is it that puts you off the new Norths?
I just bought a Duke in 5.4 to replace a old 5.8 and 5.2, thinking who wants to wavesail in 5.8 conditions.
Unfortunately the top battern was broken and the sail ripped the first time it was hit by a wave in 0.5m swell, pissing me right off.
Do you question the new sails quality, their look or what.
Ash
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Originally posted by Greenroom
I just sold my Ezzy 5m and bought a Tushie Rock 5m.
The Rock poos all over the Ezzy.
I sailed the Ezzy for the last 2 seasons and compare it to a 4 cylinder. Used the Rock 3 times and feels like a V8. The wind range is 100 times more than the Ezzy. The bottom end is more powerful. The Rock is more stable and in the gusts the Rock just accelerates.
The Ezzy was limited in wind range. The Ezzy seemed less forgiving in gusts and the preset sail just didnt cut it anymore.
I was a die hard Ezzy fan through and through.
Tushie Rocks are just as bomb proof as Ezzy. The way they sit on the mast and fill out looks sick and feels great
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Originally posted by Leechquote:
Originally posted by Greenroom
I just sold my Ezzy 5m and bought a Tushie Rock 5m.
The Rock poos all over the Ezzy.
I sailed the Ezzy for the last 2 seasons and compare it to a 4 cylinder. Used the Rock 3 times and feels like a V8. The wind range is 100 times more than the Ezzy. The bottom end is more powerful. The Rock is more stable and in the gusts the Rock just accelerates.
The Ezzy was limited in wind range. The Ezzy seemed less forgiving in gusts and the preset sail just didnt cut it anymore.
I was a die hard Ezzy fan through and through.
Tushie Rocks are just as bomb proof as Ezzy. The way they sit on the mast and fill out looks sick and feels great
Greenroom's talking about the 2003 Ezzy. Totally different sail.
He's right, it does lack in range. Pity he didn't try the 07s before becoming an Ezzy-basher.
"Greenroom's talking about the 2003 Ezzy. Totally different sail."
Fair enough - the 03 is a different sail. My 5m is the 02 version Ezzy which I reckon is more like a 4.7. Good top end but lacks cojones lower down. I always admired Ezzys but it wasn't until they boosted bottom end grunt that I could justify buying them. That from an 88kg power pig.
Does that mean that everyone who raved about their fantastic ezzy sails from 2002 to 2005 on the forums didn't know how crap they really were !
If sails get so much better every year you'd think that we would only have a 1 sail quiver and that we would be able to go at 100 knts and they would now weigh nothing ![]()
What a lot of marketing w4nk An insult to us all! SUCKED IN EVERYONE
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Originally posted by JESUS
Does that mean that everyone who raved about their fantastic ezzy sails from 2002 to 2005 on the forums didn't know how crap they really were !
If sails get so much better every year you'd think that we would only have a 1 sail quiver and that we would be able to go at 100 knts and they would now weigh nothing
What a lot of marketing w4nk An insult to us all! SUCKED IN EVERYONE