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Lake George Speed Sessions 2014

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Created by Aus06 > 9 months ago, 30 Aug 2013
Bogan speed team
SA, 407 posts
28 Sep 2013 5:30PM
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Can't wait...

sick_em_rex
NSW, 1600 posts
14 Oct 2013 5:21PM
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It's a long way to come from Sydney. At least at Sandy Point there are other activities to keep us occupied on the no wind days. My question to the LG regulars and locals is what is the likelihood of wind mid to late Feb? Keep in mind that us Sydneysiders are quite content with 15-20 knots. Is it a regular seabreeze where one day tends to be a lot stronger than the others for the epic days and on others is a nice moderate breeze? I ask this cause at the Pit the locals wouldn't even contemplate sailing in 15 knots Just don't want to drive all that way on not sail once. And yes, I do know there is never a guarantee of wind ever but I'm just trying to guage what the average conditions are like.
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Aus06
SA, 235 posts
14 Oct 2013 5:40PM
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The Mount Gambier wind rose shows this for 3pm in February www.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/climate/cgi_bin_scripts/windrose_selector.cgi

Robe wind rose is this www.bom.gov.au/clim_data/cdio/tables/pdf/windrose/IDCJCM0021.026026.3pm.pdf

Robe annual summary is this www.bom.gov.au/climate/averages/tables/cw_026026.shtml

Maybe some of the interstaters that made the effort last year could let us know if the effort was worth it?

I'd say the trip would be worthwhile, but it is nature after all, and sometimes we can be let down.

In summary, the average conditions are ... AWESOME!

hardie
WA, 4129 posts
14 Oct 2013 3:22PM
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My experience was there was a 25/30 kt seabreeze about 3 x a month Jan Feb about every 10 days with reasonable sailing in between

What are the water levels like atm, and how do they compare with previous years??

kato
VIC, 3507 posts
14 Oct 2013 7:35PM
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The Mount Gambier wind rose shows this for 3pm in February www.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/climate/cgi_bin_scripts/windrose_selector.cgi

Robe wind rose is this www.bom.gov.au/clim_data/cdio/tables/pdf/windrose/IDCJCM0021.026026.3pm.pdf

Robe annual summary is this www.bom.gov.au/climate/averages/tables/cw_026026.shtml

Maybe some of the interstaters that made the effort last year could let us know if the effort was worth it?

I'd say the trip would be worthwhile, but it is nature after all, and sometimes we can be let down.

In summary, the average conditions are ... AWESOME!


Well worth the trip, have a look for that big high pressure system that sits with its centre over Tassie. That's when LG and us get the E, SE winds. Got a week in Jan and a week in Feb. already booked, I just took at punt on last years dates.

ka43
NSW, 3091 posts
14 Oct 2013 8:00PM
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Further to Rexy's questions, what sort of water and air temps are we looking at in mid to late Feb??
In Sydney we tend to think of Adelaide as on par with us for summer temps but realising LG is quite a bit south and probably on par with southern Vic??
Its a bloody long way to go but definitely a "bucket list" place and we are frothing for it.
hey Craig, what time in Feb are you going??
Cheers,
Larko.

Bonominator
VIC, 5477 posts
14 Oct 2013 8:30PM
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It's windsurfer's paradise mid to late Feb. Air's about 22-25 in the wind and high 30's when it's calm and water in the lake about the same I'd say because it's so shallow. But don't quote me, take a look at the Lake George weather station. Definitely worth the trip. If the wind's not on then there's always fishing, dune surfing and of course, drinking or simply shooting the breeze with a smile on ya face.

sick_em_rex
NSW, 1600 posts
14 Oct 2013 9:12PM
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Geez Ado, I'm sick of having to listen to Kato's crap on no wind days
Sounds like it should be sweet then. Larko and I will be coming and hope to bring Michael Thompson along too. I'm not sure when the Central Coast boys were thinking but hopefully Johnny might come at the same time. It'll be like the Pit but 500km further West! And no go karting

sick_em_rex
NSW, 1600 posts
14 Oct 2013 9:16PM
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Chris, I have NO idea what I'm looking at here.....

Aus06
SA, 235 posts
14 Oct 2013 9:42PM
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Ok Rex, hold on to your seat...

These wind roses take me back to my uni days. From memory, they show the direction the wind is coming from (points of a compass), the strength (the shaded colour), the duration (the length of the shaded colour), and then frequency (position relative to percentage rings).

They are either a brilliant invention and we will all be using them soon, or they never took off in the first place and I am the only one clinging to them.

Either way, in Jan / Feb / March, the afternoon winds are predominantly S to SE and can blow 25-30knots on average, but can peak in the low 30's. These are typical seabreezes in the south east of SA for this time of year.

decrepit
WA, 12767 posts
14 Oct 2013 7:23PM
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Just looked at my February pics from last year, and most people are in spring suits a few in boardies and a couple in full length suits. Herby from FNQ is in a springy, so it's neither very hot or very cold. My memory of water temp, is a bit vague but I don't remember it being an issue either way, so low 20s is probably about right.
Jimbob said the wind we had wasn't as good as normal, we spent about 2 weeks there and only had one 3 day patch of wind around 30kts. But there was still plenty of very enjoyable sailing, and the Coonawarra isn't far away, (next year Dot is keen for us to do more exploring there through the windless periods).

The only thing that initially put Dot of sailing there is the mud, but once she'd experienced how nice the sailing was, she talked herself into ignoring the mud.

jimbob SA
SA, 999 posts
14 Oct 2013 10:57PM
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The lake water temp in Feb on the lake is normally around 24 or so
the sea and bay here at the same time can be 10 yes you heard right 10.
because our coast is only about 20 k's from the continental shelf after a prolonged period of seabreezes the top layer of water is moved and water from deep moves in to replace it this deep water from the shelf comes from antartica, should be able to google bonney upwelling as this happens from robe to portland accross the border most summers, not good for the fisherman as the crays stop crawling.

be good to see you WA crew again Decrepit Hardie and off course my good mate Sammy.

the water level is full at the moment a smidge more than last year looks great for summer.




Im of to NZ tommorrow will take a some pics in a couple weeks when I get back.

Rexy we can always go over the dunes and beaches 4wd on the bikes or fishing as or coast here is access for all, just pm me mate and we can hook up actually I still have your number from when I bought the old RS4 of you ( its still good under the van)

Bonominator
VIC, 5477 posts
17 Oct 2013 4:37PM
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Just looked at my February pics from last year, and most people are in spring suits a few in boardies and a couple in full length suits. Herby from FNQ is in a springy, so it's neither very hot or very cold. My memory of water temp, is a bit vague but I don't remember it being an issue either way, so low 20s is probably about right.
Jimbob said the wind we had wasn't as good as normal, we spent about 2 weeks there and only had one 3 day patch of wind around 30kts. But there was still plenty of very enjoyable sailing, and the Coonawarra isn't far away, (next year Dot is keen for us to do more exploring there through the windless periods).

The only thing that initially put Dot of sailing there is the mud, but once she'd experienced how nice the sailing was, she talked herself into ignoring the mud.


Mud??

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
3 Dec 2013 7:02PM
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Look like Lake George 2014 is a goer for me. Booked three weeks annual leave starting on the 2nd of February 2014. In the process of booking a cabin at the Southend Caravan Park. They gave me a good deal. It will be cheaper to get a cabin than to buy a new tent and have a powered site.

Looking forward to the trip as I haven't had a holiday for a while and this year has been tough.

I have two decent boards, a 105 and 135 Tabou Rocket. Should I take both or just the smaller one? I think just the smaller one with a 6.6m, 5.9m and 5.5m sails. Should I look at getting smaller sails? I wouldn't mind buying a smaller board too, around 80l slalom board so if anyone going to Beachport in February has something like this for sale for a decent price, let me know.

decrepit
WA, 12767 posts
3 Dec 2013 9:09PM
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Moby, how much do you weigh?

I'm just over 70kg biggest gear I used was a 6.0 sail with a 53cm board and 25cm fin, got down to a 4.4 sail and 43cm board and 18cm fin.
The big thing is the best runs are in shallow weedy areas. You don't want to have to use a 30cm fin because you've got a wide board.
Look forward to seeing you there, sounds like there will be plenty of us staying long term.

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
4 Dec 2013 10:06AM
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Just weighed myself this morning. 82 KG. I should go for a smaller board and sails so will keep on the lookout between now and Feb.


I have a few weed fins, including a 19cm MUF delta. I use it with my 105 with 5.9m and 5.5m sails.

Boombuster
QLD, 582 posts
4 Dec 2013 10:31AM
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The wife & I are leaving in late Jan so expect us in Feb we have 8 weeks trip planned so will be visiting many good spots on our trip from Bris & back on the way will be heading along down the coast to Syd then inand to LG S Pt then up the east coast to Primbee etc.
Few others from the Qld Mob will be heading down also some driving & some flying

Aus06
SA, 235 posts
4 Dec 2013 11:39AM
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It's great to hear that so many of you are planning trips to the 'G' this summer. I'm hoping to fit in a day trip before Christmas on a good forecast, and will be sure to post an update on conditions here.

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
4 Dec 2013 12:12PM
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A side question, what is the fishing like at Beachport, off the jetty for example? Are fishing licences needed to go fishing without fearing the threat of a fine?

Aus06
SA, 235 posts
4 Dec 2013 11:45AM
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No recreational licence needed in SA.

Good fishing from the Beachport jetty, and great fishing from the adjacent beaches. A beach at the back of the town called 'Salmon Hole' is always good fun. If you have a 4wd, then there is great 4wd'ing and access to the stunning beaches between Beachport and Robe. There are plenty of great fishing spots along here.

powersloshin
NSW, 1836 posts
4 Dec 2013 5:34PM
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I'm coming too ! booked 28/1 to 7/2
See you all there

aussieboats
NSW, 342 posts
5 Dec 2013 8:22AM
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Long way from Port Macquarie Adam and my self are looking at coming late feb at this stage , only 21 hours drive

F2
QLD, 209 posts
5 Dec 2013 9:34AM
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Even longer from Hervey Bay Mark, got my new JP 50 on Monday, we will be going down in early Feb.

aussieboats
NSW, 342 posts
5 Dec 2013 1:59PM
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Hi , Geoff , nice board , can you pick me up on the way and transport me down to south aus

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
17 Dec 2013 1:52PM
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What board and sail size would be useful there? I'd like to take a minimal amount of gear, perhaps only one board and sails to suit.

Last Saturday I tested out a JP Slalom II (I think). Its about six years old. 84 litres, 55cms wide and about 230cms long. I really liked it and got going about as fast as I ever have on my first runs with a 5.9m sail. I'm going to buy it. If possible I'd just like to take this board with a 6.6m, 5.9m, 5.5m and a 4.4m sail. All of them are RAF sails.

Would it be wise to take a bigger board and sails too or unnecessary? I remember taking a bigger board and sails on a windsurfing trip to WA and never needing to use anything but a wave board and 5m or less sail size. It was a waste of time taking the bigger gear.




kato
VIC, 3507 posts
17 Dec 2013 10:06PM
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Mobydisc said..

What board and sail size would be useful there? I'd like to take a minimal amount of gear, perhaps only one board and sails to suit.

Last Saturday I tested out a JP Slalom II (I think). Its about six years old. 84 litres, 55cms wide and about 230cms long. I really liked it and got going about as fast as I ever have on my first runs with a 5.9m sail. I'm going to buy it. If possible I'd just like to take this board with a 6.6m, 5.9m, 5.5m and a 4.4m sail. All of them are RAF sails.

Would it be wise to take a bigger board and sails too or unnecessary? I remember taking a bigger board and sails on a windsurfing trip to WA and never needing to use anything but a wave board and 5m or less sail size. It was a waste of time taking the bigger gear.






leave the 4.4 at home. Max wind speed is 30kts and very flat water. Never got off my 5.8 (82kg)

mathew
QLD, 2133 posts
19 Dec 2013 8:56AM
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kato said..


Mobydisc said..

What board and sail size would be useful there? I'd like to take a minimal amount of gear, perhaps only one board and sails to suit.




leave the 4.4 at home. Max wind speed is 30kts and very flat water. Never got off my 5.8 (82kg)



For comparison, I was on a 5.8 most of the time, but went to a 5.0 for a few hours ... 72kg.

jimbob SA
SA, 999 posts
19 Dec 2013 4:07PM
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I,m no expert on the conditions but I use a 5.0 koncept just about all summer weigh 84, if you only have raf sails you will need the 4.4 as a big jump up to 5.5,

have had crew borrow my spare 5.0 fairly often when they couldn't hold down there 5.8 (hey tricky),

up to 34 SE forcast tommorrow on buoywether might have to get the missile out been a while as normally sail the surf till chrissie but the local pointer has been hanging around too much the last couple weeks so the lake might be a safer bet.

kato
VIC, 3507 posts
19 Dec 2013 6:38PM
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How's the water level looking 25,30kt for us on Saturday

decrepit
WA, 12767 posts
19 Dec 2013 9:33PM
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I was nursing a sore ankle last year so was holding back a little bit, got my best speeds on a 4.4 koncept, I'm 70kg, may have been a tad overpowered on the 5.0
I agree if you only have RAF sails bring the 4.4. it's not going to take up much room, I'll certainly be bringing mine.



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