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Karpathos Speed World Cup

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Created by choco > 9 months ago, 2 Aug 2009
choco
SA, 4175 posts
2 Aug 2009 8:03AM
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Tried to find some info on first day results and found some on the Loft Sails forum and GPSS.....speed world cup site has no info at this stage,big congrats must go to first time competitor Loft sails rider Dirk Jan Knol for finishing top in one heat ahead of Antoine and Valerie top in the womens!!



Anton:
First day of competition.
Difficult circumstances.
Nice suprizes !!!!

No suprize, Vallery won al the ladies heats.
Well done Vallery.

First heat Silverfleet.
Dirk Jan and my self started in the silverfleet.
I start with myself becuase it's a short story.
First heat, I did 2 runs of 35 knots, going upwind someone suddenly gybed in front of me and I could not prevent a collision.
My boom broke in several pieces, end of heat and the orther heats I did not recover from this crash.

Because this was Dirk Jan' s firts major event ( Monty offered DJ a wild card.) the first heat he was still a little nervous and took 6th place.
Totally differtent the next heat, Dirk Jan took 1st place and moved up to the gold fleet.

The heat in the gold fleet DIrk Jan delivered !!!!!
Dirk Jan made a run of 40 knots.
It took some time before A. Albeau also made a run of 40 knots and at that moment Albeaus took the lead.
Dirk Jan went out again and put down a tremendous run of 40.5 knots .
No one could match this result and Dirk Jan won this heat !!!!

So not all the know names but Dirk Jan in his first WC event.

He and his Blade 6.2 were on fire.

The last heat of the day was a full fleet heat and very crowded on the course.
DJ took 10th place in this heat.

Very good relsut for the first day at the WC.

From now on DJ is not longer onknown an will be watched and seen als a man to be aware off.


I send this message from an internetshop and I do not know if the others inside this shop are fighting together or selling sheep but it is almost impossible to type !!.
Besides this my camera broke down , I have a small other camrera but I can not upload.
This I will do wenn back home.
Untill then I keep writing these messages .

Hoping for more DJ , Vallery and BLADE successes.
Chris fromGpss:

Difficult day for the first day of the world championships. Some great runs by some guys, and plenty of frustration for others including myself. The wind was different today than for the Greek championships earlier in the week, and it took me all day for that to click. I made the mistake of taking the lines that were working in the last contest. But today there was a lot less wind, especially near the beach. I blew up my arms after the first 2 runs of the first heat due to borrowing a new harness that didnt fit properly (my old one is tearing apart). The hook ended up too high for my line settings so I used my arms way too much. Also the 7m was a bit too big in the gusts. End result was rock hard forearms and no ability to hold on in the gusts. By the 3rd round the arms were going down so I was able to make a lot of runs. But none of them were very sucessful being completely underpowered and unable to break a cycle of 36.0s on the timing board- I must have done close to 10 in a row! The last 2 runs just before the course closed were a bit faster... but nothing special. Congrats to all the guys that were flying today!

Dirk Jan Knol 40.6
2 Ben van der Steen 40.22
3 Jurjen van der Noord 39.85
4 Peter Volwater 39.4
5 Philip Adamidis 39.27
6 Jacques van der Hout 39.26
7 Chris Lockwood 39.2
8 Hans Kreisel 39.09
9 Geoff Montgomery 26.79
10 Martin McCourt 22.

Magnus8
QLD, 366 posts
2 Aug 2009 10:21AM
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Here is some action from last year.

Spotty
VIC, 1619 posts
2 Aug 2009 11:01AM
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[quoteHere is some action from last year.


Slowie at 1.30 & 2.50

yoyo
WA, 1646 posts
2 Aug 2009 2:25PM
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Some comments from gps-ss and other sourses

Jacques van der Hout

What a day for dutch speedsurfing. Mixed feelings for me, normally i would be happy to sail top 10 on a world cup speed, but with 5 other dutch guys in front of me it feels like becomming 6th on a usm.....
Offcourse it is a big lottery with the gusts and free runs here in Karpathos, but finally after 5 days the best windsurfer will win for sure. Even Bjorn Dunkerbeck finished around 15th the first heat, totally lost. Or doing well but not well enough.
Some big surprises today, Hans was leading the first half of the first heat and Dirk was doing only 2 runs in the second goldfleet heat and won. Nobody was able to get him anymore even not after doing 20 runs. The top guys were thinking who the **** are these guys....we know better.
Maybe not so smart to change equipment one week before such an event, but afterwards it is easy talking. Albeau was peaking 45 knots with exactly the same equipment but he or Finian is leading the event so i have to blame my self only.
Looking forward for the next days and i hope i can improve, but i feel broken like everybody


Philip Adamidis

Only 1 good run in todays lottery. Not enough for an impressive result. Heat no 1, I only needed one more good time to make the top 10 but the wind played tricks on me.
Heat no 2 seemed promishing but something happened in the end and I was pushed back in the ranking.
Heat no 3 was a total disaster. I did 11 runs but the score was so miserable! The worst thing is that still I have not figured out what went wrong. Maybe it was fatigue. This year, top 10 is a very hard task


Hans Kreisel

what a day for the dutch crew.

First heat i was using a new combi 7,0 with the 54wide and a 27fin
was a good decision after 30minutes i was in the lead it was awesome to hear Hans kreisel first place repeat first place a new guy from holland thought i was dreaming NOTTTTT but after that Finian and Antoine and Benny got back at me.

Second heat was really bad started off with some huge crashes on my missile xs and could not get my setup to work and had some trouble on the course so rerigged only didn't have time to make up.

Heat 3 took the 7,0 again only was really crowded because a full fleet was out but still got a 6t position so had a really nice start and i'm very happy

Respect to Dirk in heat 2 he got some nice gusts and was able to lock it all the way well done now there are 6 dutchies in the gold fleet










choco
SA, 4175 posts
2 Aug 2009 4:04PM
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Whats interesting about the event is that it's great to see the regular GPSS sailors all doing so well.It goes to show that GPSS GPSTC comps really do help everyone in regards to fine tuning their gear to world class standards and being able to compete against the full time pros.

yoyo
WA, 1646 posts
2 Aug 2009 3:23PM
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What is also interesting is Bjorn's new Severnes. Seems like the protos are copying the Prydes with the luff pocket much narrower at the top and a bigger clew cut out.



evets
WA, 685 posts
2 Aug 2009 3:28PM
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Any ideas as to why the official site has so little information on what is happening?

yoyo
WA, 1646 posts
2 Aug 2009 3:45PM
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It's always been like this..unfortunately

mkseven
QLD, 2315 posts
2 Aug 2009 6:01PM
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Well there's an obvious tip for those that can't seem to go any faster- how full do you have your sail

evets
WA, 685 posts
2 Aug 2009 4:50PM
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mkseven said...

Well there's an obvious tip for those that can't seem to go any faster- how full do you have your sail



Sorry Mkseven, I did not pick up on this. Are you saying have them full or flat?

mkseven
QLD, 2315 posts
2 Aug 2009 7:09PM
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Look at the pics of chris and bjorn and dirk.

vando
QLD, 3418 posts
2 Aug 2009 7:46PM
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mkseven said...

Look at the pics of chris and bjorn and dirk.


Yer they look pretty full also looks like Dunky got his boom up higher than for slalom.

Bonominator
VIC, 5477 posts
2 Aug 2009 11:11PM
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evets said...

Any ideas as to why the official site has so little information on what is happening?


It's Greece mate. They are VERY relaxed over there. They'll do it when they feel like it.

choco
SA, 4175 posts
3 Aug 2009 8:58AM
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KARPATHOS Winsurf World Champs 2009 August 1 to 5, 2009
Speed Windsurf Men
OVERALL STANDINGS
Rk Sail Name Nat #1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6 #7 #8 #9 #10 #11 #12 Total Best
Points Speed
1. 1 MAYNARD Finian BVI 0.7 (4) 0.7 5.4 40.79
2. 192 ALBEAU Antoine FRA 2 2 (3) 7.0 40.69
Quiksilver, Ford Autovital, Orangina, De
3. 10 BRINGDAL Anders SWE (6) 3 5 14.0 40.29
Mistral Clothing, Deboichet, AL-360, DaK
4. 11 DUNKERBECK Bjorn SUI (15) 5 2 22.0 40.16
Starboard, Severne, Red Bull, VW, Mystic
5. 57 VAN DER STEEN Ben NED 5 7 (11) 23.0 39.25
Select, Mystic
6. 211 LUIG Thorsten GER 4 6 (14) 24.0 40.22
Victoria, InJoy, AM-Sport, CalmWear, Win
7. 14 BENGTSSON Magnus SWE 8 (9) 7 24.0 39.25
Skidsport, Hyrstallningar i Nykoping AB
8. 986 RICHAUD Christophe FRA 7 (14) 8 29.0 38.91
Bouscarle Selecteur, Freestyle Surfshop
9. 24 VOLWATER Peter NED 11 (15) 4 30.0 38.88
ProLimit
10. 116 KREISEL Hans NED 3 (22) 6 31.0 39.63
Jonker Funsports, Klassenoten
11. 21 KNOL Dirk Jan NED (24) 0.7 10 34.7 41.17
Loft Sails
12. 74 LOCKWOOD Chris AUS 9 11 (15) 35.0 39.54
Carbon Art
13. 35 VAN DER HOUT Jacques NED 10 12 (13) 35.0 38.63
Pryde Wetsuits
14. 300 RICHARDSON Marcus SWE 12 8 (18) 38.0 39.22
Ion, Wallensport, C3C
15. 71 MOUSSILMANI Cyril FRA 16 (17) 9 42.0 38.12
Starboard, Ion, Deboichet
16. 5 VAN DER NOORD Jurjen NED (24) 10 16 50.0 39.09
Starboard, Severne, Surfcenter.NL
Legend : Speed in Knots - () means score has been Discarded - * means Production Board 02/08/2009 ~ 18:03
Timing & Results www.sport-electronic.com
Page 1
Rk Sail Name Nat #1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6 #7 #8 #9 #10 #11 #12 Total Best
Points Speed
17. 171 ADAMIDIS Philip GRE 14 13 (23) 50.0 38.50
Globo PLC
18. 619 FIORENTINI Christophe FRA 17 (18) 17 52.0 37.79
Starboard, Gasoil, Lafarge
19. 344 LARSSON Erik SWE 18 (23) 12 53.0 38.36
Carbon Art, Wallensports
20. 38 BORGELIND Daniel SWE 13 16 (30) 59.0 38.54
Swedemunt Ijungdals färg
21. 108 HAAKE Bjorn GER (29) 19 21 69.0 38.03
Fahrschule Haake
22. 55 EMANUELSSON Markus SWE(26) 20 25 71.0 37.88
Carbon Art, Wallensports, CA Fastigheter
23. 52 VAN HOOF Patrick BEL (27) 24 22 73.0 37.36
Ion, Select, Squeezy, Protest, IMVAHO
24. 70 FORTUNATO Beppe ITA (31) 21 24 76.0 37.68
TuttoVoli
25. 29 BORNEMANN Christian GER 21 27 (28) 76.0 36.11
Carbon Art
26. 62 D'URSO Francesko ITA 28 (30) 19 77.0 36.09
Link
27. 7 MASSERINI Massimo ITA (33) 26 20 79.0 36.82
Starboard, Tecnolimits, Retecasa
28. 818 MALLON Torsten GER 19 32 (34) 85.0 35.61
Select, Tekknosport, Kico-Logistics, Der
29. 163 WANHERWEGHE Wilfried FRA (32) 28 27 87.0 36.11
La Comgnie du vent, Avchan dieppe
30. 68 OGIER Martyn GBR (34) 25 29 88.0 36.96
Starboard, Beachcomber Hot Tubs
31. 76 HOEFER Armin GER 20 (35) 33 88.0 35.51
Loft Sails, Hurricane Fins
32. 911 HED Tobias SWE 30 29 (31) 90.0 36.74
Carbon Art, Surfers Paradise
33. 877 BJORKQVIST Anders SWE(35) 31 26 92.0 35.80
Tekknosport, Fahlen
34. 8 GERICHHAUSEN Dieter GER 23 (39) 32 94.0 35.00
Surf&Action
35. 313 BENAMATI John ESP 22 34 (46) 102.0 35.66
Legend : Speed in Knots - () means score has been Discarded - * means Production Board 02/08/2009 ~ 18:03
Timing & Results www.sport-electronic.com
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Rk Sail Name Nat #1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6 #7 #8 #9 #10 #11 #12 Total Best
Points Speed
36. 65 LAVANDERA Orlando ESP (36) 36 35 107.0 35.41
Starboard, Severne, Mystic, 7th Wave Cen
37. 143 TAUBER Markus AUT (38) 33 38 109.0 35.95
38. 119 ****HS Manfred GER 37 (41) 37 115.0 34.11
KA-Sails, Lessacher Fins
39. 13 GEESINK Anton NED 40 37 (41) 118.0 35.09
Loft Sails, Atan, Side-On
40. 260 KORTAS Marcus GER 39 (42) 40 121.0 33.74
MFC, Chiemsee, Fittnes First, Surf&Actio
41. 103 ONDERBEKE Koen BEL (43) 43 36 122.0 33.50
42. 30 KNUTSEN Morten NOR 41 37 (46) 124.0 35.24
Carbon Art, Haugesund Sparebank, Knutsen
43. 223 BALDINI Andrea ITA (42) 40 42 124.0 34.69
CarbonArt, Building Star, AL-360, WP
44. 107 POSSATI Alberto ITA 44 (46) 39 129.0 33.35
Starboard, Severne, AL-360
45. 73 DAVIS Peter GBR 45 (46) 46 137.0 33.49
DaKine, Spartan, WalnutGroveClinic
Legend : Speed in Knots - () means score has been Discarded - * means Production Board 02/08/2009 ~ 18:03
Timing & Results www.sport-electronic.com
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elmo
WA, 8868 posts
3 Aug 2009 7:45AM
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sick_em_rex
NSW, 1600 posts
3 Aug 2009 10:28AM
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Is Chris's Carbon Art board considered a production board?

sailquik
VIC, 6165 posts
3 Aug 2009 5:31PM
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Also nice to see our Manfred F U C H S (GPS-Results author) having a go over there and on an Aussie designed KA sail! Go for it Manfred!

Edit: It must be annoying when websites edit out you name!

Spotty
VIC, 1619 posts
3 Aug 2009 10:28PM
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yep.. Slowies just warming up!!
03.08.09 14:06:19
what a finish! the wind just picked up and mixed up the ranking. provisional ranking is albeau, bringdal, lockwood, dunkerbeck, kreisel. next announcement for the silver fleet soon !
03.08.09 13:55:52
a few more changes in the meantime. first albeau, then dunkerbeck, bringal, maynard, lockwood
03.08.09 13:47:58
and another extension. lockwood in fourth now. first still albeau ahead of bringdal and dunkerbeck

vando
QLD, 3418 posts
3 Aug 2009 10:42PM
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Spotty said...

yep.. Slowies just warming up!!
03.08.09 14:06:19
what a finish! the wind just picked up and mixed up the ranking. provisional ranking is albeau, bringdal, lockwood, dunkerbeck, kreisel. next announcement for the silver fleet soon !
03.08.09 13:55:52
a few more changes in the meantime. first albeau, then dunkerbeck, bringal, maynard, lockwood
03.08.09 13:47:58
and another extension. lockwood in fourth now. first still albeau ahead of bringdal and dunkerbeck





evets
WA, 685 posts
3 Aug 2009 9:12PM
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Great news, go Slowie. There are a lot of Aussies following this hoping you get good wind

Haggar
QLD, 1670 posts
3 Aug 2009 11:39PM
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Great video coverage, looks like they are using RADAR for the comentary, I wonder how close this matches the GPS tracks

Go Chris !!!!

choco
SA, 4175 posts
4 Aug 2009 8:54AM
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What time did you get up today Elmo?

elmo
WA, 8868 posts
4 Aug 2009 10:39AM
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Same time everyday 5am WST generally start working between 5-6am

yoyo
WA, 1646 posts
4 Aug 2009 11:41AM
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DAY 2 Results Top Ten

Maynard........1...1...5 Total = 6
Albeau...........5...2...1 Total = 8
Bringdal.........2...5...2 Total = 9
Dunkerbeck....3...4...4 Total = 11
Lockwood......6...8...3 Total = 17
Kreisel..........10...3...7 Total = 20
Moussilmani....7..12...6 Total = 25
Borgelind.......4..17...8 Total = 29
Volwater.......8..11..11 Total = 30
Van d Steen.13...7..14 Total = 34

Chris is getting better results. Last race showed he can break into the top 3 but he'll need some exceptional heats if he is to break the the grip of the big 4 on the podium spots.

mineral1
WA, 4564 posts
4 Aug 2009 12:01PM
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yoyo said...

DAY 2 Results Top Ten

Maynard........1...1...5 Total = 6
Albeau...........5...2...1 Total = 8
Bringdal.........2...5...2 Total = 9
Dunkerbeck....3...4...4 Total = 11
Lockwood......6...8...3 Total = 17
Kreisel..........10...3...7 Total = 20
Moussilmani....7..12...6 Total = 25
Borgelind.......4..17...8 Total = 29
Volwater.......8..11..11 Total = 30
Van d Steen.13...7..14 Total = 34

Chris is getting better results. Last race showed he can break into the top 3 but he'll need some exceptional heats if he is to break the the grip of the big 4 on the podium spots.


Top lads from NP be very very very happy with these early results, me thinks
On ya Lockie

Kimba
SA, 458 posts
4 Aug 2009 2:03PM
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Does anyone know if Finian is using his old F2 speed boards(I have heard that he made them, not Patrick) or does he have some RRD protos?

yoyo
WA, 1646 posts
4 Aug 2009 1:09PM
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Chris may have an interesting story on that. My understanding was that after trying Chris' CA at last years event (and I think using his CA50 in the last heat(s?) Finian got himself a brace of CAs from James Dinnis.... but not to ride.

My bet is he will be on custom RRDs but they may have some similar rockers/outlines to the CAs. Though Finian has been doing this so long I'm sure his shaper(s) know exactly what works for him.

evets
WA, 685 posts
4 Aug 2009 1:51PM
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yoyo said...

DAY 2 Results Top Ten

Maynard........1...1...5 Total = 6
Albeau...........5...2...1 Total = 8
Bringdal.........2...5...2 Total = 9
Dunkerbeck....3...4...4 Total = 11
Lockwood......6...8...3 Total = 17
Kreisel..........10...3...7 Total = 20
Moussilmani....7..12...6 Total = 25
Borgelind.......4..17...8 Total = 29
Volwater.......8..11..11 Total = 30
Van d Steen.13...7..14 Total = 34

Chris is getting better results. Last race showed he can break into the top 3 but he'll need some exceptional heats if he is to break the the grip of the big 4 on the podium spots.

5th behind those 4 is a fantastic result, what a brilliant competition Chris appears to be having, keep at it Slowie

kato
VIC, 3507 posts
4 Aug 2009 5:50PM
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Go Chris..

elmo
WA, 8868 posts
5 Aug 2009 6:42AM
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Day 4
Chris managed to pick up another 4 points on 5th place yesterday's only round only needs another 4 to jump a position.


yoyo
WA, 1646 posts
5 Aug 2009 12:47PM
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And what a bun fight for the place behind Chris. There are 7 riders in with a chance (at least).

EDIT: Just looked at the windguru forecast for Karpathos...Not Good. The above results may be the final ones as today is the last day and prize giving is not long after lunch.

Edit: Slowie's comments pinched from gps-ss

Carbon Art SP 53/Sail Neilpryde RS Racing EVO 2 7.8/Fin Custom CLSL28S 28

Average speed 37.47 knots ( 37.83 37.65 37.59 37.21 37.08 )
Max. GPS (display) 40.42 knots /250 m run 37.6 knots


Another frustrating round. Was in 3rd for a lot of it with a string of 36s until a gust came through right at the end- I rode the start of it but ran past it and out of wind at the end. Then I watched 6 or 7 guys get it all the way and get 37s, knocking me down to 9th. Spewing. I went on a mission but didnt get any good gusts except for an OK one which gave me my equal fastest run despite having to sail around the guy in front of me who lost it on the run. In conditions where you lose 2 places for 5cm (like yesterday) its important to get a clean run. I was lucky enough to get a small puff half way through one of my last runs. I was powered up for a few seconds and it was enough to claw back to 6th place for the round. Jacques came through just behind me in the big gust - looks like it was your turn this round :) Hoping for another round tomorrow- only 4 points away from knocking Hans (blue steel) out of his 5th place perch... haha All runs here from the race. Did some late in the day but the wind was a lot lighter so speeds heaps lower.

And from Jacques

JP Speed 49 Pro Edition/Neilpryde RS Racing EVO 2 7.0/Fin Deboichet Upwind 28

Average speed 37.71 knots ( 38.58 38.41 37.31 37.26 36.98 )
Max. GPS (display) 39.84 knots /250 m run 38.02 knots

Small fine tuning can make the difference. Finally a top 3 result in between the big guys........ I hope for another race tomorrow, if the luck is on my side i can try to work my way up to place 7 overall.
I need a simular race than today and the 5 guys in front of me aswell.......Everything is possible.



meanwhile some more photos by Chris Schill. interesting to see Severne reducing the pocket width...seems to take the wrinkles out.









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