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Garmin GPSTC Datafield - to complement the Motion Simple Logger

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Created by tbwonder > 9 months ago, 3 Apr 2020
Steve Charles
QLD, 1240 posts
22 Dec 2021 7:36PM
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Great work Andrew, well done mate

AUS02
TAS, 2038 posts
26 Dec 2021 9:51AM
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Looking forward to trying out!!

Jetlag
NSW, 194 posts
26 Dec 2021 10:52AM
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Great work Andrew. Does it mean we only need the 1 data field now? When does it go live?

tbwonder
NSW, 730 posts
26 Dec 2021 7:09PM
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I uploaded it to the IQ Store late Thursday night. It has not yet been approved by Garmin, I guess they are all on holiday.
Yes it is just one Datafield

Jetlag
NSW, 194 posts
28 Dec 2021 7:57AM
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Datafield is now live !!

AUS02
TAS, 2038 posts
28 Dec 2021 9:05AM
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Loaded!

mikey100
QLD, 1099 posts
28 Dec 2021 8:29PM
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Loaded.

mikey100
QLD, 1099 posts
29 Dec 2021 6:17AM
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mikey100 said..
Loaded.

Andrew, you mention the use of the 'Lap' button. My 245 has 5 buttons labeled- light, up, down, start/stop and back.
Which do I use for 'lap' please?

tbwonder
NSW, 730 posts
29 Dec 2021 7:58AM
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"back" is the lap button.

It will be interesting how this works on different watches. On my Fenix it is quite painful as it shows the lap details for 5 seconds or so before changing pages. I can live with it though as I don't need to look at the 1 hour page very often.

mikey100
QLD, 1099 posts
29 Dec 2021 7:27AM
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tbwonder said..
"back" is the lap button.

It will be interesting how this works on different watches. On my Fenix it is quite painful as it shows the lap details for 5 seconds or so before changing pages. I can live with it though as I don't need to look at the 1 hour page very often.

Thanks Andrew.

tbwonder
NSW, 730 posts
29 Dec 2021 9:11AM
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Just had a look at the code that changes the page to the hour screen.
I have made a small change (which hopefully is an improvement)

New version 4.03 in the IQ Store

Carindale
QLD, 331 posts
29 Dec 2021 8:27AM
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Finally got a sail yesterday and experienced 245 with the mini. 245 with old (now they are) data fields worked well. Thanks Andrew.

tbwonder
NSW, 730 posts
2 Jan 2022 10:03AM
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For those who want to see the session distance, I should point out there is a Datafield in the IQ Store called "Sailing Race Timer"

My Current preferred set up is:
Screen 1 - GPSTC V4.03
Screen 2 - Sailing Race Timer
Screen 3 - The default Garmin Map

tbwonder
NSW, 730 posts
3 Mar 2022 6:10PM
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After a month at LG using my datafields on a daily basis and discussing issues with others I have made some improvements to V4.

1. On start up all the user settings are displayed for a few seconds.
2. At the end of the session the final six GPSTC results are displayed to two decimal places. When you push stop this screen will display briefly, simply push start again (Resume) and you can then view this screen for as long as you like. You must have travelled at least 500 metres in the session for this to display.
3. I have added more filtering to remove possible spikes in the hour category caused by sudden jumps in the distance recorded, typically when the watch goes underwater.
4. I have added filtering to deal with similar spikes in the Nautical mile calculations, which disallow any nautical mile that has a significant spike in it.
5. Fixed a very minor error in the haversine formula, which will make no difference whatsoever.
6. Added the Garmin Descent watch to the build.

New version in the IQ store V4.12

tbwonder
NSW, 730 posts
3 Mar 2022 9:58PM
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As I have previously mentioned I use another one of my datafields in combination with V4. It is called "Sailing Race Timer". Whilst it started life as a race countdown timer, I now use it all the time to simply display Time of Day and Distance Travelled. At LG I played around with a new feature that measures the straight line distance from your start point. This was really useful in planning Nautical Mile runs. I have just added a new feature which resets the start point by pressing the lap button. Therefore any point to point distance can be measured.
V1.4 is now in the IQ Store

BSN101
WA, 2374 posts
10 Mar 2022 7:32AM
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Will a Garmin Vivactive 4S run the app. I'm not keen to spend $1k+ when I also have an LCD Motion on order. Garmin does offer other benefits too tho

vosadrian
NSW, 449 posts
11 Mar 2022 10:14AM
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Will a Garmin Vivactive 4S run the app. I'm not keen to spend $1k+ when I also have an LCD Motion on order. Garmin does offer other benefits too tho


I can't comment on the data fields on the Vivoactive. I have an earlier Vivoactive and it is a great general purpose watch that I use for many things including windsurfing.... but if I was after a Garmin specifically for windsurfing, I would not get one with a touch screen. With the touch screen it is almost unusable to use touch screen related features once it is wet. So I usually set mine up and start recording and then lock the touch screen and then just let it do its thing while I am sailing. I set it up with scrolling pages so I can see what I need without having to touch things. Sometimes I forget to start it before I get it wet, and it can be challenging to get it going once wet. There are other options with buttons for control that are better suited to Windsurfing. I think the run series watches are the cheapest not touch screen (245 etc.)

Swindy
WA, 456 posts
11 Mar 2022 7:20PM
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Just got the 245 music on special in jb hi-fi today. Looking forward to trying out your data field tomorrow. Been a while since I've had on water feedback as my gw 60 died a few months ago after 4 years. Should be the perfect combo with my mini motion for accuracy without costing an arm and a leg.
Keep up the good work.

tbwonder
NSW, 730 posts
12 Mar 2022 11:24AM
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BSN101 said..
Will a Garmin Vivactive 4S run the app. I'm not keen to spend $1k+ when I also have an LCD Motion on order. Garmin does offer other benefits too tho


Yes my Datafields will run on the Vivoactive 4S. But as vosadrian says the touchscreen is hard to use.
If looking to purchase a new Garmin the 245 Music is clearly the best of the cheaper watches.
Currently selling for around AU$350. At times they drop to under $300.

tbwonder
NSW, 730 posts
15 Mar 2022 2:35PM
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Well V4.12 may have been OK, But 4.13 definitely wasn't. Crashes after sailing 0.5km.

So now up to V4.16
A few changes
1. On start up all the user settings are displayed until the start button is pushed.
2. At the end of the session the final six GPSTC results are displayed to two decimal places - This should now work.

I had to revert back to the original GPSTC field 1 and GPSTC field 2 whilst out sailing the other day, I had forgotten what they were like.
I highly recommend upgrading to V4

Next job is testing Fenix 7 versions on the simulator

tbwonder
NSW, 730 posts
15 Mar 2022 5:54PM
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Change made to Alpha Screen. So when still outside the 50m separation the number is shown in huge text filling the entire screen. Once an alpha is achieved then the large number is the alpha in Kts and the number below is the separation distance (as it was before the change).
I found at LG that the separation was hard to read, when travelling fast.

Also added support for all the new Fenix 7 watch variations (7, 7S and 7X)

Version Number 4.17

tbwonder
NSW, 730 posts
16 Mar 2022 4:05PM
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I was really was bored today. Finally got around to updating the instructions for GPSTC V4.
They can be downloaded at www.haigh.id.au/GPSTC.htm

bearhoover
TAS, 708 posts
16 Mar 2022 8:03PM
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Been using and following updates on the data fields for over 12 months now .
2 trips to LG and plenty of sailing between. This project and what's been put together for us is truly remarkable . An absolutely sensational tool on the water.
Thanks so much for all your efforts , very appreciated and a huge well done!

Marty1970
NSW, 154 posts
28 Mar 2022 7:02PM
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Awesome job mate!!! thanks

vosadrian
NSW, 449 posts
13 Apr 2022 11:55AM
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Garmin 245 for $243:

www.amazon.com.au/dp/B07RCJV4PT

regal1
NSW, 445 posts
13 Apr 2022 3:16PM
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Need the 245 music. More memory.

vosadrian
NSW, 449 posts
13 Apr 2022 3:33PM
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regal1 said..
Need the 245 music. More memory.


Does the basic 245 not work with the data fields?

tbwonder
NSW, 730 posts
13 Apr 2022 4:35PM
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The 245 will work with the older datafields, but if buying a new watch then I strongly recommend the Music version.
See www.haigh.id.au/GPSTC.htm for list of supported watches.

I think the 245 Music is about $379 at JB Hifi or Rebel at the moment.

Northern Monkey
SA, 104 posts
21 Apr 2022 5:05PM
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Hi everyone
new to the GPS group. Just got a 735xt and downloaded the data fields. At a loss what to do next on the watch. Apologies if this is a silly question. mick

tbwonder
NSW, 730 posts
21 Apr 2022 6:03PM
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There are basic instructions in the IQ store where you downloaded the datafields

I have written a more detailed guide at www.haigh.id.au/GPSTC.htm which is for the Version 4 Datafields, but the installation process is the same

Or go to Youtube and search for installing datafields on Garmin watches.



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