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GTC: All Australian Womens Team?

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Created by hardie > 9 months ago, 14 Feb 2010
vando
QLD, 3418 posts
15 Feb 2010 9:29PM
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CheekyMonkey said...

ka72 said...

1) Don't take me out of my team. One of the best things about our team is that we sail together most of the time. A national team might compete together, but it won't sail together on the same patch of water.

2) If I wanted to be on a women only team, I could have joined one.

3) A "virtual" national team might be a good idea - if any other countries get on board. Otherwise I'm not sure how much I would benefit from it. As a promotional idea for gpstc it might be good.

4) Sounds like you men want to fix it for us. Typical!


Well said Kelly. All this and sailing with the guys today has got me thinking about switching teams - my distance would have contributed to MBM today....

I still think a "virtual" ladies team would be cool. It wouldn't worry me if it didn't happen as I love the GPCTC as it is.


Be nice to have a Lady on the team, Mark comes pretty close though just need to put a skirt on him oh there always Mikey too

mkseven
QLD, 2315 posts
15 Feb 2010 9:33PM
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Hey i'm not the one pictured in a red skirt.

Besides i'm just in touch with my feminine side

CheekyMonkey
QLD, 53 posts
15 Feb 2010 10:41PM
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Where are the photos?

sausage
QLD, 4873 posts
15 Feb 2010 11:06PM
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CheekyMonkey said...

Where are the photos?


www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=58920&whichpage=4

Cheryl AUS841
WA, 35 posts
15 Feb 2010 9:08PM
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A national team was never meant to be compulsory. Those who want to stay in their own teams can. It would just provide another option for those who want to join a women's team. There is little use starting a state women's team because there aren't enough people to make it work and we would find ourselves in the same situation as Boardcrazy girls or Divas. At least if there was a team where anyone in Australia could join (or perhaps the world??), the chances of two women sailing on the one day would be much greater.

Only problem is that it could be seen to be cheating because you would have the best of the wind conditions in each state. However, I not sure that anyone would care since we would be unlikely to win anyway.

Cheryl

Windxtasy
WA, 4017 posts
15 Feb 2010 9:10PM
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vando said...


Be nice to have a Lady on the team,


You just need to invite some to join.
I was so pleased to be asked to join I just had to say yes.
I never would have contemplated it otherwise.

Sterlings
QLD, 73 posts
15 Feb 2010 11:30PM
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I agree Cheryl. It is what I said earlier today. A women's national team would not be compulsory. But those who are keen (?3 so far) could join and perhaps some more.

Looks like BCG will be down to only 1 anyway, so I will need a new team!

vando
QLD, 3418 posts
15 Feb 2010 11:48PM
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Sterlings said...

I agree Cheryl. It is what I said earlier today. A women's national team would not be compulsory. But those who are keen (?3 so far) could join and perhaps some more.

Looks like BCG will be down to only 1 anyway, so I will need a new team!


Well the welcome mats there maybe you can get hubby to post as well

Hey Snags it good to have team mates like you[}:)]

nebbian
WA, 6277 posts
15 Feb 2010 9:55PM
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A national team is easy, it's no trouble at all.

Just make a new team, set the state to "Other" and bob's yer uncle.

The virtual team idea (where you're a member of more than one team) is more problematic

CheekyMonkey
QLD, 53 posts
16 Feb 2010 10:26AM
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sausage said...

CheekyMonkey said...

Where are the photos?


www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=58920&whichpage=4


Classic!!!

JoLee
QLD, 294 posts
16 Feb 2010 5:51PM
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hi fellow lady sailborders thinking of joining the challenge but unsure about how to go about the technology side of things, similar story as Sharon after a 10 year break. Regular Manly and Wynnum sailor and would be happy to add to the board crazy girls as there looks like an opening with Jo Sterling busy, or the Morton Bay Mob offered a look in. Sharon, if u would like another female during the week to keep motivated I`m usually not far away especially if it`s windy!

hardie
WA, 4129 posts
20 Feb 2010 8:59AM
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OK we have enough interest and numbers for a national womens team, need a team name and team captain nominated.

sausage
QLD, 4873 posts
20 Feb 2010 11:28AM
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hardie said...

OK we have enough interest and numbers for a national womens team, need a team name and team captain nominated.


Well that's a no-brainer Hards. Being Australian and being an all women's team, what about .............."The Sheilas"

PS- team captain should be "Sheila" of course.
and in the tradition of the SC Vikings they should have traditional Australian girl's names like Shazza, Cheryl, Kaz, ....................

Windxtasy
WA, 4017 posts
20 Feb 2010 10:05AM
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hardie said...

OK we have enough interest and numbers for a national womens team, need a team name and team captain nominated.


How about "The Sailfish"?
Sailfish: Individuals have been clocked at speeds of up to 110 km/h (70 mph), which is the highest speed reliably reported in a fish.
Inspiration indeed.

As for captain, whose idea was the women's team? Binny?

And can we stay in our own team and be a member of the women's team as well?
I'm sure a bit of clever programming could take care of that.

hardie
WA, 4129 posts
20 Feb 2010 10:10AM
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Windxtasy said...


And can we stay in our own team and be a member of the women's team as well?
I'm sure a bit of clever programming could take care of that.


Not as easy as we imagine it, I'm afraid you'd have to leave your present team if you want to join this new one!

So have a good think about what you want.

Windxtasy
WA, 4017 posts
20 Feb 2010 11:51AM
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hardie said...

Windxtasy said...


And can we stay in our own team and be a member of the women's team as well?
I'm sure a bit of clever programming could take care of that.


Not as easy as we imagine it, I'm afraid you'd have to leave your present team if you want to join this new one!

So have a good think about what you want.


I've only just joined the Pinnas, nevertheless I like them and I'd like to stay with them. So not interested in the ladies team if it's a choice.

So the question to the ladies out there, to really determine if this idea is feasible, needs to be who is prepared to leave their current team to be a member of the Australian ladies team?

hardie
WA, 4129 posts
20 Feb 2010 12:22PM
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Windxtasy said...

hardie said...

Windxtasy said...


And can we stay in our own team and be a member of the women's team as well?
I'm sure a bit of clever programming could take care of that.


Not as easy as we imagine it, I'm afraid you'd have to leave your present team if you want to join this new one!

So have a good think about what you want.



I've only just joined the Pinnas, nevertheless I like them and I'd like to stay with them. So not interested in the ladies team if it's a choice.

So the question to the ladies out there, to really determine if this idea is feasible, needs to be who is prepared to leave their current team to be a member of the Australian ladies team?



I have had 5 women nominate already via emails

decrepit
WA, 12767 posts
20 Feb 2010 8:23PM
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What I wondering, is just who, are 1 Australian women's team, going to compete against?????

CheekyMonkey
QLD, 53 posts
20 Feb 2010 10:48PM
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decrepit said...

What I wondering, is just who, are 1 Australian women's team, going to compete against?????


All the other teams I guess????

I'd only join a "virtual" women's team - sorry. I think there is a lot of value in physically sailing with your team.

Being a web developer myself, I understand the implications of making a virtual team - it's a big job requiring changes to the database structure. It's a big ask...

decrepit
WA, 12767 posts
20 Feb 2010 9:11PM
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OK guess that could work, but it will be a bit hard for people in different states to get coordinated.

Alewi62
QLD, 158 posts
20 Feb 2010 11:26PM
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I'm still not interested in leaving my team. Should it be called an Australian Womens team if all the present rated top women sailors are not in the team?
In regards to having a vitual team - Could we have another log in name for the womens team and just enter our data twice.

sausage
QLD, 4873 posts
21 Feb 2010 12:42AM
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alewi62 said...
In regards to having a vitual team - Could we have another log in name for the womens team and just enter our data twice.


That's not a bad idea Anne although wouldn't you need a different nickname as this may create some programming issues i.e. if you logged under the same name twice (even though in different teams)

Maybe just add a numeral to the end of your log in name to distinguish them both - e.g. so Sheila who sails for Team X just becomes Sheila1 for women's team Y


Cheryl AUS841
WA, 35 posts
20 Feb 2010 10:45PM
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Lets just call it a borderless team. That way it doesn't sound like only the best are in it.

As for a name, I will have to think about it. I'm not sure about Sheilas. Sailfish is OK.

decrepit
WA, 12767 posts
20 Feb 2010 10:47PM
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sausage said...

alewi62 said...
In regards to having a vitual team - Could we have another log in name for the womens team and just enter our data twice.


That's not a bad idea although you would need a different nickname as wouldn't this create some issues with the programming if you logged under the same name twice (even though from different teams)


Isn't that what alewi62 said? Think you're getting tired sausage, know I am.

sausage
QLD, 4873 posts
21 Feb 2010 12:51AM
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decrepit said...

sausage said...

alewi62 said...
In regards to having a vitual team - Could we have another log in name for the womens team and just enter our data twice.


That's not a bad idea although you would need a different nickname as wouldn't this create some issues with the programming if you logged under the same name twice (even though from different teams)


Isn't that what alewi62 said? Think you're getting tired sausage, know I am.


My bad. My wife says I never listen (and probably don't read too well either)

yes tired, must go to bed now.

nebbian
WA, 6277 posts
21 Feb 2010 9:21AM
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alewi62 said...


In regards to having a vitual team - Could we have another log in name for the womens team and just enter our data twice.


From a website perspective this is definitely not the right way to do things. I guarantee that after a couple of weeks people will just use one login instead of logging out, relogging in, and entering their data again.

Besides which, two 'people' will appear in the individual rankings with equal scores, it will create more headaches for me than making a virtual team.

I'm reluctant to do the virtual thing for a couple of reasons, one of which is technical -- the entire system is set up so that you can only be in one team. It would require lots of programming time for me to set this up...
The other reason is psychological. If we started allowing people to bat for more than one team, then I imagine that we would rapidly get the situation where fast sailors would be pressured into joining more and more teams so that their scores counted for other teams.

I really think that the best way to go forward is for a national team to be created, and anyone who wants to be in that team can leave their current team and join the national one. From experience, the camaraderie on the beach won't change -- no matter where I go sailing anyone who's in the GTC will come up and have a good yarn, especially those people from teams that I used to be part of.



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