I had a deal on a 5.6 Gun Sails Yeah . Technically, it is for freestyling, but I thought it wouldn't make much of a difference if I used it for freeriding.... I didn't try it on the water yet, only on my backyard and I am disappointed.
The main problem is that I cannot outhaul the sail to the recommended boom length of 174 cm , but only to 162 cm,( a big gap!) because the batten reach almost behind the mast and it is simply impossible to outhaul more, even with all my strength. The upshot is that the sail does not rotate, even by pushing it by hand to the other side.
I tried to download more, but here too I reach a brickwall, because the tension on the d/haul twine is so high that I cannot push it into the cleat to block it, as I always do.
The mast is an oldish carbon 430 cm and it takes a lot of work ( and time,) to slide it into the luff sleeve. I had to use the winch to insert it completely. I don't think it is normal,
I tried to release the batten tension, too, to facilitate the rotation, but there is no way to get thee thing working.
Is it because the freestyle sail is incompatible with the dynamic of freeride sails, or because the mast is incompatible( too old?) or both?
Or may be I need a RDM mast for optimal rotation and full outhaul? Looks like these days sails are designed primarily for RDM masts and the the sleeves are too tight for SDM, even if the manufacturers' specs say they they work with SDM.
I also thought about cutting one or more batten. Basically, how can I fix this, short of buying a RDM mast or new freeride sail or playing with the batten length?
Thanks for your suggestions
Francone
Sounds like the tight luff sleeve is not allowing enough downhaul.
If you haven't got enough downhaul it will be hard to get full outhaul.
Highly likely that you are using a standard diameter mast and it should be rigged on an RDM mast. The correct mast would probably work heaps better.
If the sail doesn't rotate properly it usually means its not got enough downhaul or its on the wrong mast, which I would say is more likely.
A stander mast will add about 8 to 10cm to the outhaul measurement as its got a lot more diameter and is usually a completely different bend to the recommended mast.
When I first read this post , I had a grin , cos I thought my leg was being pulled and I'm three beers down. Whinching to get the mast in ?
However..if it's no joke , I'd suggest , don't rig to numbers. Downhaul until the crease on the second top panel goes two thirds of the way to the mast. Outhaul to the point that the rear of the sail gets very close or just touches the boom arm when full of wind. That is a good starting point for freeriding. If the battens don't flip , the mast is wrong.
ps, read it again , gots to be taking the piss.
You really just need the correct gun sails mast.
freestyle sails are great for free riding.
OMG if you need a winch just to get the mast into the sail - there's ya problem! 
If it doesn't work - always always correct mast before anything else
These sails are RDM compatible only, according to the website of Gunsails.
So, yes, do try it with the correct mast.
Freestyle sails great for freeriding? Tight leech, flat profile, 4 battens. Guess it depends on your definition of freeriding.
Select to expand quotePhilUK said..
Freestyle sails great for freeriding? Tight leech, flat profile, 4 battens. Guess it depends on your definition of freeriding.
I don't think you've ever used a freestyle sail because your description is off the mark.
Select to expand quoteGestalt said..PhilUK said..
Freestyle sails great for freeriding? Tight leech, flat profile, 4 battens. Guess it depends on your definition of freeriding.
I don't think you've ever used a freestyle sail because your description is off the mark.
I haven't used one for years as the weren't suitable for my view of what freeriding is, blasting along fuss free. But when that's all the hire centre had left, no choice.
What the Surf mag test said "The four battens are very flat, and there is no visible profile on land. The Yeah also shows its freestyle genes in the leech - loose leech is not intended in this concept."
They may fill out then go flat in manoeuvres but that's a bit on/off in gusts rather than keep its shape through lulls.
Select to expand quotePhilUK said..Gestalt said..PhilUK said..
Freestyle sails great for freeriding? Tight leech, flat profile, 4 battens. Guess it depends on your definition of freeriding.
I don't think you've ever used a freestyle sail because your description is off the mark.
I haven't used one for years as the weren't suitable for my view of what freeriding is, blasting along fuss free. But when that's all the hire centre had left, no choice.
What the Surf mag test said "The four battens are very flat, and there is no visible profile on land. The Yeah also shows its freestyle genes in the leech - loose leech is not intended in this concept."
They may fill out then go flat in manoeuvres but that's a bit on/off in gusts rather than keep its shape through lulls.
Lol, it doesn't say that at all. you have purposefully cherry picked the article and chopped sentences in half because surprise surprise it doesn't agree with your earlier post.
the article is titled "NOT ONLY INTERESTING FOR TRICKSTERS" which is a direct reference to free riding.
maybe your experience was less than ideal because you tried to rig the sail like a slalom sail.
Freestyle sails are super versatile, and good for many disciplines: wave riding, wind foiling, and why not freeriding too. They are often more powerful than a similarly sized wave sail, have amazing handling, are light weigh, etc. Just use the correct mast and ask rigging advice from fellow surfers that are familiar with that type of gear. They are sometimes trickier to tune well to your liking than some other type of sails.
Did I say amazing for wave riding?
Select to expand quoteGestalt said..PhilUK said..Gestalt said..PhilUK said..
Freestyle sails great for freeriding? Tight leech, flat profile, 4 battens. Guess it depends on your definition of freeriding.
I don't think you've ever used a freestyle sail because your description is off the mark.
I haven't used one for years as the weren't suitable for my view of what freeriding is, blasting along fuss free. But when that's all the hire centre had left, no choice.
What the Surf mag test said "The four battens are very flat, and there is no visible profile on land. The Yeah also shows its freestyle genes in the leech - loose leech is not intended in this concept."
They may fill out then go flat in manoeuvres but that's a bit on/off in gusts rather than keep its shape through lulls.
Lol, it doesn't say that at all. you have purposefully cherry picked the article and chopped sentences in half because surprise surprise it doesn't agree with your earlier post.
the article is titled "NOT ONLY INTERESTING FOR TRICKSTERS" which is a direct reference to free riding.
maybe your experience was less than ideal because you tried to rig the sail like a slalom sail.
Actually, I think he's right.
freestyle sails are made to deliver short and sharp bursts of power. Great when you are flicking the board around in a freestyle manoeuvre or swinging around on a wave face, but absolutely terrible if you want to mow the lawn, or go chop hopping. Twitchy as a sail comes, and they generally do have that flat profile and tight leech as described. What on earth makes you think they're gonna be good for free riding, I don't know.
Not saying they can't be used across different disciplines, foiling and wave sailing, sure. but free riding, hell no. they're not at all designed for that.
Select to expand quoteManuel7 said..
Post a photo!
here they are
with maximum winch d/haul. Outhaul 164 cm. 10 cm short of recommended boom extension ( 174 cm)
I'd like to take this moment and get on the soap box for one of my favorite rants: the boom setting we see printed on the bag isn't always where you outhaul your sail to. In my experience, it's the max setting and you may end up setting the sail short of that, especially in lighter winds when you want more power. Some sailmakers (e.g Ezzy) actually quote a range instead of a single boom setting to get this point across. Too often, on a lighter day, I'll see people rig up and pull the s* out of their sail with predictable results.
That said, 99% sure OP's using an older sdm of unknown curve, causing a significant portion of his issues. He was having an issue with this mast being wider than his sdm 460. www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/Foiling/short-SDM-mast-diam-configuration-vs-longer-masts-
Select to expand quoteSubsonic said..Gestalt said..PhilUK said..Gestalt said..PhilUK said..
Freestyle sails great for freeriding? Tight leech, flat profile, 4 battens. Guess it depends on your definition of freeriding.
I don't think you've ever used a freestyle sail because your description is off the mark.
I haven't used one for years as the weren't suitable for my view of what freeriding is, blasting along fuss free. But when that's all the hire centre had left, no choice.
What the Surf mag test said "The four battens are very flat, and there is no visible profile on land. The Yeah also shows its freestyle genes in the leech - loose leech is not intended in this concept."
They may fill out then go flat in manoeuvres but that's a bit on/off in gusts rather than keep its shape through lulls.
Lol, it doesn't say that at all. you have purposefully cherry picked the article and chopped sentences in half because surprise surprise it doesn't agree with your earlier post.
the article is titled "NOT ONLY INTERESTING FOR TRICKSTERS" which is a direct reference to free riding.
maybe your experience was less than ideal because you tried to rig the sail like a slalom sail.
Actually, I think he's right.
freestyle sails are made to deliver short and sharp bursts of power. Great when you are flicking the board around in a freestyle manoeuvre or swinging around on a wave face, but absolutely terrible if you want to mow the lawn, or go chop hopping. Twitchy as a sail comes, and they generally do have that flat profile and tight leech as described. What on earth makes you think they're gonna be good for free riding, I don't know.
Not saying they can't be used across different disciplines, foiling and wave sailing, sure. but free riding, hell no. they're not at all designed for that.
Umm. Did you read the mag review? Or this thread below?
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/Review/Severne-Freek-5-9m-versus-6-3m?page=1
do any of those sails look flat. Where did you get that idea from. Twitchy?
Select to expand quoteFrancone said..Manuel7 said..
Post a photo!
here they are
with maximum winch d/haul. Outhaul 164 cm. 10 cm short of recommended boom extension ( 174 cm)
You need the correct mast and it will ideally be a gun sails mast. Have rigged many sails on incorrect masts including freestyle sails and it's never ideal and in some cases just not workable.
have also followed the many guides online suggesting alternative masts and think they are a waste too.
looking at the photos your mast is the issue
Yes if the sail is rdm only it'll be tight. Some are already tight with an rdm so surely won't work with sdms.
I agree with Phil and SS. I would have paid the extra money for the Zoom if I wanted to freeride it. But you have got it now Francone, so make the best of it. I'm betting if you use a heavy boom and mast, it will be a pig of a sail.
From their website:
gunsails.com/en/yeah-2025
Taavi: Nice vid 
Select to expand quoteFrancone said..Manuel7 said..
Post a photo!
here they are
with maximum winch d/haul. Outhaul 164 cm. 10 cm short of recommended boom extension ( 174 cm)
That isn't rigged right...needs quite a bit more downhaul to pull the battens off the mast. If that's all you can pull you likely chose a mast that is very wrong for sail. Anyone nearby that can help you get this sorted?
Select to expand quoteSubsonic said..Gestalt said..PhilUK said..Gestalt said..PhilUK said..
Freestyle sails great for freeriding? Tight leech, flat profile, 4 battens. Guess it depends on your definition of freeriding.
I don't think you've ever used a freestyle sail because your description is off the mark.
I haven't used one for years as the weren't suitable for my view of what freeriding is, blasting along fuss free. But when that's all the hire centre had left, no choice.
What the Surf mag test said "The four battens are very flat, and there is no visible profile on land. The Yeah also shows its freestyle genes in the leech - loose leech is not intended in this concept."
They may fill out then go flat in manoeuvres but that's a bit on/off in gusts rather than keep its shape through lulls.
Lol, it doesn't say that at all. you have purposefully cherry picked the article and chopped sentences in half because surprise surprise it doesn't agree with your earlier post.
the article is titled "NOT ONLY INTERESTING FOR TRICKSTERS" which is a direct reference to free riding.
maybe your experience was less than ideal because you tried to rig the sail like a slalom sail.
Actually, I think he's right.
freestyle sails are made to deliver short and sharp bursts of power. Great when you are flicking the board around in a freestyle manoeuvre or swinging around on a wave face, but absolutely terrible if you want to mow the lawn, or go chop hopping. Twitchy as a sail comes, and they generally do have that flat profile and tight leech as described. What on earth makes you think they're gonna be good for free riding, I don't know.
Not saying they can't be used across different disciplines, foiling and wave sailing, sure. but free riding, hell no. they're not at all designed for that.
Freestyle vs Freeriding sails.
Lucrative hyper -tech and sometimes underhand marketing savvy have created unnecessary, sometimes false, distinctions and polarizations. Sadly In the end, they may have contributed to the near- demise of windsurfing these days.
Yes, freestyling may be attractive for some and call for differently designed sails, but , c'me on , a sail is a sail and wind is what it is.
I fail to see why a freestyle sail should be "terrible( !)" for freeriding, especially for somebody like me, who is not speed and adrenaline-driven, but all he wants is to be able to glide on the water in light winds, not necessarily planing .
For this reason, I see no reasons why a freestyle sail should be " terrible" compared " to a "by the-the-book", dedicated freeride sail.
In the end, much of what we like or dislike as windsurfers depends more on our subjective expectationsand style than on the equipment itself.
I'm ready to be proven wrong, but I'd love to know the specific reasons why some find freestyle sails terrible for freeriding.
For the moment, I do believe that, as pointed out by some , my immediate problem, is the incompatilbiity of my sail, which happens to be a free-style, with my SDM mast . I'll try a RDM and let you know.
Thanks
Francone
Select to expand quoteFrancone said..
I fail to see why a freestyle sail should be "terrible( !)" for freeriding, especially for somebody like me, who is not speed and adrenaline-driven, but all he wants is to be able to glide on the water in light winds, not necessarily planing .
For this reason, I see no reasons why a freestyle sail should be " terrible" compared " to a "by the-the-book", dedicated freeride sail.
The sails are simply cut differently, a freeride sail has more sail area under the boom compared to a freestyle or wavesail. This makes the freeride sails more balanced, in terms of the position of the pressure-point (it will be located lower). A freeride sail can then also be raked further back (closing the gap towards the board) and thus provides a very nice and stable sailing position when sailing in a straight line. Once tuned properly you should be able to sail with both hands off the boom (for a short time).
Freestyle sails on the other hand are designed to maximise the power using the smallest sail area etc. The highly cut clew is there in order to improve manoeuvrability during tricks, and is not optimised for sailing in a straight line.
Do rig it on and RDM mast, as these sails are RDM only and there simply is no way around that.
I'm quite surprised that you even managed to push an SDM mast in there, but one effect is that the thicker mast will take up more cloth around the mast and hence the required boom length will be shorter.
Pictures of the whole rigged sail will help with getting advice here.
There is also a rigging video for the Yeah sails (by Gunsails):
Select to expand quoteGestalt said..PhilUK said..Gestalt said..PhilUK said..
Freestyle sails great for freeriding? Tight leech, flat profile, 4 battens. Guess it depends on your definition of freeriding.
I don't think you've ever used a freestyle sail because your description is off the mark.
I haven't used one for years as the weren't suitable for my view of what freeriding is, blasting along fuss free. But when that's all the hire centre had left, no choice.
What the Surf mag test said "The four battens are very flat, and there is no visible profile on land. The Yeah also shows its freestyle genes in the leech - loose leech is not intended in this concept."
They may fill out then go flat in manoeuvres but that's a bit on/off in gusts rather than keep its shape through lulls.
Lol, it doesn't say that at all. you have purposefully cherry picked the article and chopped sentences in half because surprise surprise it doesn't agree with your earlier post.
the article is titled "NOT ONLY INTERESTING FOR TRICKSTERS" which is a direct reference to free riding.
maybe your experience was less than ideal because you tried to rig the sail like a slalom sail.
It actually does say that, I copied the relevant parts of what was written on the Yeah sail details on the Gun website to what I wrote. I didn't copy the non relevant stuff to what I wrote.
The rest is about its freestyle usage, which seems good, if you use the correct rdm mast.
JN1 posted what Gun themselves recommend it for with that diagram.
Or rtfm yourself gunsails.com/en/yeah-2025
But as I said, it depends on what your idea of freeriding is.
I didn't rig it like a slalom sail either, ready rigged.
Select to expand quoteSurferKris said..Francone said..
I fail to see why a freestyle sail should be "terrible( !)" for freeriding, especially for somebody like me, who is not speed and adrenaline-driven, but all he wants is to be able to glide on the water in light winds, not necessarily planing .
For this reason, I see no reasons why a freestyle sail should be " terrible" compared " to a "by the-the-book", dedicated freeride sail.
The sails are simply cut differently, a freeride sail has more sail area under the boom compared to a freestyle or wavesail. This makes the freeride sails more balanced, in terms of the position of the pressure-point (it will be located lower). A freeride sail can then also be raked further back (closing the gap towards the board) and thus provides a very nice and stable sailing position when sailing in a straight line. Once tuned properly you should be able to sail with both hands off the boom (for a short time).
Freestyle sails on the other hand are designed to maximise the power using the smallest sail area etc. The highly cut clew is there in order to improve manoeuvrability during tricks, and is not optimised for sailing in a straight line.
Do rig it on and RDM mast, as these sails are RDM only and there simply is no way around that.
I'm quite surprised that you even managed to push an SDM mast in there, but one effect is that the thicker mast will take up more cloth around the mast and hence the required boom length will be shorter.
Pictures of the whole rigged sail will help with getting advice here.
Also, their freeride sail has 6 battens, 3 tube type, to lock in the deeper profile for stability at speed. The freeride sail has a deeper profile under the boom, going flatter nearer the top to help twisting off in gusts. The power is provided lower down in the sail not the top.
But as you say you won't be planing, then it will be OK. But get a Gun rdm mast.
Select to expand quoteFrancone said..
Freestyle vs Freeriding sails.
Lucrative hyper -tech and sometimes underhand marketing savvy have created unnecessary, sometimes false, distinctions and polarizations. Sadly In the end, they may have contributed to the near- demise of windsurfing these days.
Yes, freestyling may be attractive for some and call for differently designed sails, but , c'me on , a sail is a sail and wind is what it is.
I fail to see why a freestyle sail should be "terrible( !)" for freeriding, especially for somebody like me, who is not speed and adrenaline-driven, but all he wants is to be able to glide on the water in light winds, not necessarily planing .
For this reason, I see no reasons why a freestyle sail should be " terrible" compared " to a "by the-the-book", dedicated freeride sail.
In the end, much of what we like or dislike as windsurfers depends more on our subjective expectationsand style than on the equipment itself.
I'm ready to be proven wrong, but I'd love to know the specific reasons why some find freestyle sails terrible for freeriding.
For the moment, I do believe that, as pointed out by some , my immediate problem, is the incompatilbiity of my sail, which happens to be a free-style, with my SDM mast . I'll try a RDM and let you know.
I agree that the marketing names are confusing. If you're using this sail for lighter winds, then perfect. In light winds, probably not essential exactly matched mast in that case. But, aim to make the rig as light as possible. 70% RDM carbon mast at least, and carbon boom etc. This will be a perfect sail to learn tacks and helitacks etc.
When I was a beginner, the local windsurfing shop sold me a freestyle sail + SDM 30% mast + AL wave boom. They helped out a beginner that had no clue, and probably lifted some slow moving stock. But in the long run, this rig held me back until I got to understand windsurfing equipment and replaced it for better suited equipment for my skill level and application.
Select to expand quotePhilUK said..Gestalt said..PhilUK said..Gestalt said..PhilUK said..
Freestyle sails great for freeriding? Tight leech, flat profile, 4 battens. Guess it depends on your definition of freeriding.
I don't think you've ever used a freestyle sail because your description is off the mark.
I haven't used one for years as the weren't suitable for my view of what freeriding is, blasting along fuss free. But when that's all the hire centre had left, no choice.
What the Surf mag test said "The four battens are very flat, and there is no visible profile on land. The Yeah also shows its freestyle genes in the leech - loose leech is not intended in this concept."
They may fill out then go flat in manoeuvres but that's a bit on/off in gusts rather than keep its shape through lulls.
Lol, it doesn't say that at all. you have purposefully cherry picked the article and chopped sentences in half because surprise surprise it doesn't agree with your earlier post.
the article is titled "NOT ONLY INTERESTING FOR TRICKSTERS" which is a direct reference to free riding.
maybe your experience was less than ideal because you tried to rig the sail like a slalom sail.
It actually does say that, I copied the relevant parts of what was written on the Yeah sail details on the Gun website to what I wrote. I didn't copy the non relevant stuff to what I wrote.
The rest is about its freestyle usage, which seems good, if you use the correct rdm mast.
JN1 posted what Gun themselves recommend it for with that diagram.
Or rtfm yourself gunsails.com/en/yeah-2025
But as I said, it depends on what your idea of freeriding is.
I didn't rig it like a slalom sail either, ready rigged.
here is what it actually says and is referencing freestyle sails generally.
"The profiles of freestyle sails are also very special: on land, the sails are usually very flat. It is only when the sails are close-hauled and under wind pressure that they develop a distinctive profile, which in many cases ensures that freestyle sails are ultimately really good gliders. However, the prerequisite is that you have the appropriate riding ability and can "feel" the necessary angle of attack of the sails to the wind. This means that if you are just learning to planing and are naturally more passive on deck, you will start planing earlier with a freemove or powerwave sail. However, with an active sailing style and a good feel for the sails, you can tease out a lot of planing performance from freestyle sails."
it goes on to say this specifically about the yeah.
"The dampened profile creates a deep belly and practically loads up - this ensures early planing"
"If the wind increases, you can definitely pull the sail flatter via the boom to keep the draft stable"
the diagram is nothing more than marketing. if you look at the gun sails wave sail diagram they don't even have freeride on the page. that's ludicrous as thousands of people use wave sails for freeride. myself included.
so they are not flat, unstable or twitchy. that's something you read online by someone who had no idea.
Select to expand quotePhilUK said..SurferKris said..Francone said..
I fail to see why a freestyle sail should be "terrible( !)" for freeriding, especially for somebody like me, who is not speed and adrenaline-driven, but all he wants is to be able to glide on the water in light winds, not necessarily planing .
For this reason, I see no reasons why a freestyle sail should be " terrible" compared " to a "by the-the-book", dedicated freeride sail.
The sails are simply cut differently, a freeride sail has more sail area under the boom compared to a freestyle or wavesail. This makes the freeride sails more balanced, in terms of the position of the pressure-point (it will be located lower). A freeride sail can then also be raked further back (closing the gap towards the board) and thus provides a very nice and stable sailing position when sailing in a straight line. Once tuned properly you should be able to sail with both hands off the boom (for a short time).
Freestyle sails on the other hand are designed to maximise the power using the smallest sail area etc. The highly cut clew is there in order to improve manoeuvrability during tricks, and is not optimised for sailing in a straight line.
Do rig it on and RDM mast, as these sails are RDM only and there simply is no way around that.
I'm quite surprised that you even managed to push an SDM mast in there, but one effect is that the thicker mast will take up more cloth around the mast and hence the required boom length will be shorter.
Pictures of the whole rigged sail will help with getting advice here.
Also, their freeride sail has 6 battens, 3 tube type, to lock in the deeper profile for stability at speed. The freeride sail has a deeper profile under the boom, going flatter nearer the top to help twisting off in gusts. The power is provided lower down in the sail not the top.
But as you say you won't be planing, then it will be OK. But get a Gun rdm mast.
umm, can you point me in the direction of their 5.6m freeride sail that has 6 battens with 3 tube type?
Select to expand quoteFrancone said..Subsonic said..Gestalt said..PhilUK said..Gestalt said..PhilUK said..
Freestyle sails great for freeriding? Tight leech, flat profile, 4 battens. Guess it depends on your definition of freeriding.
I don't think you've ever used a freestyle sail because your description is off the mark.
I haven't used one for years as the weren't suitable for my view of what freeriding is, blasting along fuss free. But when that's all the hire centre had left, no choice.
What the Surf mag test said "The four battens are very flat, and there is no visible profile on land. The Yeah also shows its freestyle genes in the leech - loose leech is not intended in this concept."
They may fill out then go flat in manoeuvres but that's a bit on/off in gusts rather than keep its shape through lulls.
Lol, it doesn't say that at all. you have purposefully cherry picked the article and chopped sentences in half because surprise surprise it doesn't agree with your earlier post.
the article is titled "NOT ONLY INTERESTING FOR TRICKSTERS" which is a direct reference to free riding.
maybe your experience was less than ideal because you tried to rig the sail like a slalom sail.
Actually, I think he's right.
freestyle sails are made to deliver short and sharp bursts of power. Great when you are flicking the board around in a freestyle manoeuvre or swinging around on a wave face, but absolutely terrible if you want to mow the lawn, or go chop hopping. Twitchy as a sail comes, and they generally do have that flat profile and tight leech as described. What on earth makes you think they're gonna be good for free riding, I don't know.
Not saying they can't be used across different disciplines, foiling and wave sailing, sure. but free riding, hell no. they're not at all designed for that.
Freestyle vs Freeriding sails.
In the end, much of what we like or dislike as windsurfers depends more on our subjective expectations and style than on the equipment itself.
Francone
well said.
there is an unfortunate idea in windsurfing that it's all about the gear.
just get out there and have fun. use the sail you have with the right mast and enjoy your time. sure there are nuances between sails that require certain sails for competition and high level performance but none of these nuances exclude any sails being used for plain windsurfing. how many dedicated wave sails do you see every weekend getting used for freeriding on flat water and lakes.....
You can use a freestyle sail for freeriding, similar to how you can use a slalom sail for wave riding. Neither is great and the latter probably asking for trouble.
If you can, a dedicated freeride sail -as the name implies - is probably _better_ for freeriding but it'll still work on a freestyle sail. If you don't have freestyle aspirations, I wouldn't though.
That said, I'm using wave sails for freeriding.
Select to expand quoteGestalt said..PhilUK said..SurferKris said..Francone said..
I fail to see why a freestyle sail should be "terrible( !)" for freeriding, especially for somebody like me, who is not speed and adrenaline-driven, but all he wants is to be able to glide on the water in light winds, not necessarily planing .
For this reason, I see no reasons why a freestyle sail should be " terrible" compared " to a "by the-the-book", dedicated freeride sail.
The sails are simply cut differently, a freeride sail has more sail area under the boom compared to a freestyle or wavesail. This makes the freeride sails more balanced, in terms of the position of the pressure-point (it will be located lower). A freeride sail can then also be raked further back (closing the gap towards the board) and thus provides a very nice and stable sailing position when sailing in a straight line. Once tuned properly you should be able to sail with both hands off the boom (for a short time).
Freestyle sails on the other hand are designed to maximise the power using the smallest sail area etc. The highly cut clew is there in order to improve manoeuvrability during tricks, and is not optimised for sailing in a straight line.
Do rig it on and RDM mast, as these sails are RDM only and there simply is no way around that.
I'm quite surprised that you even managed to push an SDM mast in there, but one effect is that the thicker mast will take up more cloth around the mast and hence the required boom length will be shorter.
Pictures of the whole rigged sail will help with getting advice here.
Also, their freeride sail has 6 battens, 3 tube type, to lock in the deeper profile for stability at speed. The freeride sail has a deeper profile under the boom, going flatter nearer the top to help twisting off in gusts. The power is provided lower down in the sail not the top.
But as you say you won't be planing, then it will be OK. But get a Gun rdm mast.
umm, can you point me in the direction of their 5.6m freeride sail that has 6 battens with 3 tube type?
gunsails.com/en/zoom-2025
The smaller sails have 5 battens. 6m and over 6. The number of tube battens starts at 1 for 5.6 and increases with sail size. I wouldnt compare 5.6 fs to 5.6 fr as I would use a larger sail for fr in a given wind strength.
