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Worst inventions ever for windsurfing

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Created by Mastbender > 9 months ago, 9 Jan 2018
Imax1
QLD, 4924 posts
10 Jan 2018 7:16AM
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Ian K said..
Those loops they sew on sail bags. You know the ones, about half way along.


Don't get me started !

joe windsurf
1482 posts
10 Jan 2018 5:55AM
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tow in windsurfing ...

joe windsurf
1482 posts
10 Jan 2018 5:56AM
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alpine windsurfing ... seems to work better with a real windsurf board - Levi did it and in France one fellow too

Scotty Mac
SA, 2060 posts
10 Jan 2018 10:19AM
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Rope iniversals! Thanks Mark Paul but they were useless........

MikeyS
VIC, 1508 posts
10 Jan 2018 11:20AM
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Scotty Mac said..
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Rope iniversals! Thanks Mark Paul but they were useless........


Sadly, the board and rig were totally useless without the rope uni. Uni and downhaul in one. Geez it was a skill to remember how to tie one of those on the old Bombora.

Mastbender
1972 posts
10 Jan 2018 8:33AM
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They've been mentioned before, but this is the most accurate pic I've seen, of where the Wind Weapon works the best.





Al Planet
TAS, 1548 posts
10 Jan 2018 1:11PM
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Scotty Mac said..
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Rope iniversals! Thanks Mark Paul but they were useless........


Damn...those were bad!! swimming around in the waves a few times I figured it was time to go back to a normal universal.....never had a rig sink and disappear though....(.seawater was much more buoyant back then... and less acidic)

stehsegler
WA, 3542 posts
10 Jan 2018 12:25PM
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eyeMhardcore said..
I like this one. I once jumped from hells gates to albrohlos islands


A friend of mine back in Germany spend 3 days with the inventor of the wind weapon in Lake Garda. This was back in the early 90s when he was still a Gaastra team rider and what I would consider one the best wave sailors and surfer in Germany.
After 3 days he managed to get about 2 feet of air while it was blowing 30 knts. In his words "it feels like you are constantly sailing clew first and you can never relax". Needless to say he never used one again.

stehsegler
WA, 3542 posts
10 Jan 2018 12:36PM
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here my list:
- Asymmetric boards
- fold-up booms
- fixed length booms
- Cobra boards with "carpet" (ironically Cobra now makes a huge percentage of all windsurf boards)
- Every single Klepper board made in 1989 (awesome shapes just a bummer every single board delaminated)
- ASA boards with a mold seam sharp enough to shave a hipsters beard

westozwind
WA, 1415 posts
10 Jan 2018 1:47PM
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Twist lock boom clips. They always wear out and provide variable clew tension



Maybe a bit harsh, but the original North power XT extension. Wonderful to start with but once a little worn (rope or components), one of the most frustrating devices on the planet!

Zed
WA, 1270 posts
10 Jan 2018 2:50PM
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AusMoz s


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How awesome was this to rig up!!!!!!!


F**k i hated those booms! I'd get the rope as tight as I could, the boom would be rock solid until I hit the water and then down it would flop.... I couldn't get over my first clamp boom, it was joy to sail!

Madge
NSW, 471 posts
10 Jan 2018 8:22PM
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Mastbender said..
Back to fooling around with gullible windsurfers, only one problem, there aren't any, from '84.




I like the way that its gybeless yet it has a boom each side, one side is completely obsolete.

JEZ
WA, 395 posts
10 Jan 2018 5:24PM
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Hey.... bit cruel on my poor old knob, associating it with the worst inventions...........

He did his job, and damage was limited to armchair experts. Shame mast tracks shrank though.
Maybe we should have a competition to come up with a new (clean) use for the leftovers.

Jez

barbarian
NSW, 218 posts
10 Jan 2018 8:49PM
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JEZ said..
Hey.... bit cruel on my poor old knob, associating it with the worst inventions...........

He did his job, and damage was limited to armchair experts. Shame mast tracks shrank though.
Maybe we should have a competition to come up with a new (clean) use for the leftovers.

Jez


I still use mine on my old formula board. Thanks Jez!

Imax1
QLD, 4924 posts
10 Jan 2018 7:52PM
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Madge said..

Mastbender said..
Back to fooling around with gullible windsurfers, only one problem, there aren't any, from '84.





I like the way that its gybeless yet it has a boom each side, one side is completely obsolete.


Save grip.

Roo
876 posts
10 Jan 2018 11:44PM
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Mastbender said..

Mark _australia said..
Cccccccccccccccccc'mon somebody has to say it....
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/General/Site-is-up-on-Wingsails?page=1



Actually I found both a "high tension wing/flex sail" (almost a full wing) and a "solid wing sail", similar to what MW has, which Fred Haywood was working on, both came out in '83 and publicized in early '84, but both have since disappeared. Got the mag, Wind Surf June '84, I set it aside, but haven't taken any pic yet. Also another one in Wind Surf June '87 of a full double surface wing sail, similar to MW's again, no pic yet, it also had a similar future.

But in the mean time, check this out~




Had totally forgotten about that, it's a long time since i wrote that.

Roo
876 posts
10 Jan 2018 11:45PM
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ka43 said..
Just be careful of the bloke who wrote the article!!!


Who's the bloke?

ka43
NSW, 3091 posts
11 Jan 2018 7:34AM
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Some expat fella living OS and having way too much fun!!

ausbinny
191 posts
11 Jan 2018 12:25PM
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Mastbender said..

Sparky said..
Z booms?



Oh yeah! Actually I had a friend who bought one, I tried it a few times, kind of comfortable, but the biggest problem was with the pinch on front end, it had no boom clamp, it just pinched the mast, so it was always slipping. Ad from '88.





I wish these were still easily available - most comfortable grip on a boom ever (not the actual grip itself the front arm / wrist angle)

the updated version with a proper mast clamp

onefoot
21 posts
11 Jan 2018 4:20PM
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jibemaster.de/technologie/




Ian K
WA, 4155 posts
11 Jan 2018 4:37PM
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^ Genius! Combined with the super grippers of the first post, what more do you need?

Not sure about the boardies?

albers
NSW, 1739 posts
11 Jan 2018 8:12PM
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Canards?

HotBodMon
NSW, 609 posts
11 Jan 2018 8:24PM
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OMG that Lazy susan moves on the fly!!

h20
VIC, 458 posts
11 Jan 2018 10:38PM
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barbarian said..

JEZ said..
Hey.... bit cruel on my poor old knob, associating it with the worst inventions...........

He did his job, and damage was limited to armchair experts. Shame mast tracks shrank though.
Maybe we should have a competition to come up with a new (clean) use for the leftovers.

Jez



I still use mine on my old formula board. Thanks Jez!


I've dusted mine off for foiling. Saved the nose on a few touch down catapults. Bit harsh to be on the list.

sailquik
VIC, 6165 posts
12 Jan 2018 12:52AM
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Kick back twin fins?





RichardG
WA, 3758 posts
11 Jan 2018 9:57PM
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Rope universal ?

Mastbender
1972 posts
12 Jan 2018 2:15AM
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albers said..
Canards?


When those first came out, they were a big hit, I had two of them, they really worked very well to fix chronic spinout. They were later replaced with the slotted fin, and even split fins, so they fell out of fashion, but at the time, they got a thumbs up from me and others. Here's Chris Lassen enjoying his canard, aka, fore fin, later known as fore skin. Note his face shield, don't see those much anymore either.



petermac33
WA, 6415 posts
12 Jan 2018 3:19AM
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Chest harnesses are pretty useless,wave and free ride boards for river sailing

Loose leeched sails that fluttered their way to destruction.

Hollow Patrik boards that give an unfair advantage are useless for saving money.

sboardcrazy
NSW, 8224 posts
12 Jan 2018 7:21AM
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joe windsurf said..
alpine windsurfing ... seems to work better with a real windsurf board - Levi did it and in France one fellow too






I thought about giving that a go on my XC skis back in the 80's but at that time figured turning was complicated enough without a sail and there weren't that many areas to use them. A few years ago as I was doing the 2 1/4 hr trudge to the top of the range for a run a kiter flew past up the mountain.. I was so jealous.. ( at least for the uphill part... )..

MarkSSC
QLD, 642 posts
12 Jan 2018 6:30AM
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grich62 said..
the mast deviator gets my vote ,stops the mast hitting dead center and redirects it about 100 mm of center,cracks the board , then jams between your sail and mast so you can not water start,what a piece of crap.cracked my brand new jp ss because i believed the bull**** that this worked


I used the cammed mast deviator and it had more problems than it was worth. As a beginner I did not know any better. Apart from ripping the base of my sail, it positioned my uni mount way back, making the rig super sensitive. It was only partially useful for preventing mast strikes. In the end you cannot sell them second hand because of the moral issues of passing on rubbish to unsuspecting buyers.



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