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The new Windsurfer LT Reviewed in detail

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Created by albymongrel > 9 months ago, 9 Apr 2018
Chris249
357 posts
11 Dec 2019 5:14AM
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Gestalt said..
i'm also thinking further forward suits swell more.


The position in the pic appears to be the standard one.

ballast
QLD, 500 posts
11 Dec 2019 10:50AM
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windinyaface said..
I am thinking of getting a windsurfer regatta 5.7 sail. I have a Severne ARC C60 SDM 460 mast. Does it have a similar curve to the windsurfer mast? Would it work ok? (Im not racing at this stage, just looking at using rig component's from other setups).


Not tried Severne mast personally. But I do use an old NP mast in mine.
I think that you should should be able to get a reasonable shape to it as I don't believe they are as mast specific as a more modern design.
I use the one I do as I already had it and it is 40% carbon which I think is the limit for racing.
Having said that maybe the mast is why I was dead last in the Qld champs at Cootharaba??

olskool
QLD, 2459 posts
11 Dec 2019 10:54AM
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^^ Yep its gotta be the mast mate.
BALLAST, Hmmm.....

RichardG
WA, 3758 posts
11 Dec 2019 9:52AM
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windinyaface said..
I am thinking of getting a windsurfer regatta 5.7 sail. I have a Severne ARC C60 SDM 460 mast. Does it have a similar curve to the windsurfer mast? Would it work ok? (Im not racing at this stage, just looking at using rig component's from other setups).


You may as well try it but it won't be legal for racing even so you don't intend to race it right now. You might want to call or contact Severne to find out from them about whether it will work as you contemplate or not since they are soon to be selling LTs under their name. They should be able to advise re the mast.

Jethrow
NSW, 1272 posts
11 Dec 2019 7:04PM
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windinyaface said..
Someone mentioned putting a tennis ball on the daggerboard to be more comfy on your feet operating it. I've put a stubby cooler on mine with a zip tie. Works well.



But does it still hold a stubby? Inquiring minds need to know!

Gestalt
QLD, 14627 posts
12 Dec 2019 8:59AM
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prob best to ask the guys at wingenuity.

Gestalt
QLD, 14627 posts
15 Dec 2019 6:48PM
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had the Lt's out in the ocean today. 15-20 knots 2-4 foot swell.

I reckon that's the conditions where the LT shines. all the guys today commented on how much fun the the LT is in swell. so if you have one that's what you should have a go at.

the setup today was pretty cool. launch off the beach and blast at max speed head on into the rolling swells. once out the back, pick a big swell to do a planning carve gybe on the face to start heading back in,

then on the reach back in look upwind for a nice swell to race along the face and as it built near the shore top turn before tacking and doing it all again....

who said the LT and soft sail is boring....someone who hasn't used one in these conditions.

MatStirl
TAS, 136 posts
16 Dec 2019 8:31PM
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Gestalt said..
had the Lt's out in the ocean today. 15-20 knots 2-4 foot swell.

I reckon that's the conditions where the LT shines. all the guys today commented on how much fun the the LT is in swell. so if you have one that's what you should have a go at.

the setup today was pretty cool. launch off the beach and blast at max speed head on into the rolling swells. once out the back, pick a big swell to do a planning carve gybe on the face to start heading back in,

then on the reach back in look upwind for a nice swell to race along the face and as it built near the shore top turn before tacking and doing it all again....

who said the LT and soft sail is boring....someone who hasn't used one in these conditions.


I love my LT but find planing carve gybes and sailing in swell is a challenge. Across swell might be ok but racing dead downwind they can nose dive. Top speed is limited as well.

Sometimes I wonder if all LT sailors have sailed shortboards to really experience the thrill of speed or waveriding. Not an issue if they haven't.

windsufering
VIC, 1124 posts
16 Dec 2019 8:59PM
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I suggest you come to Adelaide for the nationals and watch how the top guys sail down wind in a swell !

MatStirl
TAS, 136 posts
17 Dec 2019 6:35AM
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windsufering said..
I suggest you come to Adelaide for the nationals and watch how the top guys sail down wind in a swell !


Don't think I can for next one but maybe one after.

We sail SE of Hobart with no land blocking swell to south. We've been racing them regularly this season and sometimes find I'm running back on board to pull nose out - mainly in light to med. wind conditions.

Gestalt
QLD, 14627 posts
17 Dec 2019 6:13AM
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yeah you need to move around on them. the guys at the front of the fleet run dead downwind in swell while pumping. thats a skill i never quite got the hang of.

i need to be planing for good carve gybes and having some wind helps in the swell too as i can keep my weight back.

nose diving is not a problem for me on the LT. it was on the WOD. could be your tassie swell is more difficult to deal with. I'd imagine it is

Gestalt
QLD, 14627 posts
17 Dec 2019 6:24AM
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Gestalt said..
had the Lt's out in the ocean today. 15-20 knots 2-4 foot swell.

I reckon that's the conditions where the LT shines. all the guys today commented on how much fun the the LT is in swell. so if you have one that's what you should have a go at.

the setup today was pretty cool. launch off the beach and blast at max speed head on into the rolling swells. once out the back, pick a big swell to do a planning carve gybe on the face to start heading back in,

then on the reach back in look upwind for a nice swell to race along the face and as it built near the shore top turn before tacking and doing it all again....

who said the LT and soft sail is boring....someone who hasn't used one in these conditions.




I love my LT but find planing carve gybes and sailing in swell is a challenge. Across swell might be ok but racing dead downwind they can nose dive. Top speed is limited as well.

Sometimes I wonder if all LT sailors have sailed shortboards to really experience the thrill of speed or waveriding. Not an issue if they haven't.



the guys i sail with in qld sail anything and everything. shortboards, longboards doesnt bother them.

on the weekend some were switching from LT's To wave gear and back.

Chris 249
NSW, 3513 posts
17 Dec 2019 9:09AM
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MatStirl said..

Gestalt said..
had the Lt's out in the ocean today. 15-20 knots 2-4 foot swell.

I reckon that's the conditions where the LT shines. all the guys today commented on how much fun the the LT is in swell. so if you have one that's what you should have a go at.

the setup today was pretty cool. launch off the beach and blast at max speed head on into the rolling swells. once out the back, pick a big swell to do a planning carve gybe on the face to start heading back in,

then on the reach back in look upwind for a nice swell to race along the face and as it built near the shore top turn before tacking and doing it all again....

who said the LT and soft sail is boring....someone who hasn't used one in these conditions.



I love my LT but find planing carve gybes and sailing in swell is a challenge. Across swell might be ok but racing dead downwind they can nose dive. Top speed is limited as well.

Sometimes I wonder if all LT sailors have sailed shortboards to really experience the thrill of speed or waveriding. Not an issue if they haven't.


There must be some LT sailors who haven't sailed shortboards, but many have. Those who are marketing them and racing at the worlds include former PWA world wave champ Patrice Belbeoc'h and Cesare Cantagelli, inventor of the forward roll. Aussie wave legends Scotty O'Connor, Scott McKercher and Rohan Cudmore are LT sailors. Former kitesurfing national champ Robbie Treharne has won WOD nationals. The Italian shortboard freestyle champ does most of the Italian LT events and is bringing new-wave flowstyle into the LT. At the last nationals, the Lightweight runner-up has been on the national team for the surfing masters's worlds; the Medium Light and Freestyle winner was top 20 in a slalom worlds; the HW, overall and slalom winner is a passionate shortboarder who picked up a new Naish waveboard at the regatta; and the women's events were won by world class Raceboard and slalom sailors.

The top speed is definitely lower than that of a shortboard or RB, and the rig does make it a bit harder to plane out of gybes. There's always trade-offs in every design.

albymongrel
NSW, 257 posts
25 Dec 2019 8:05AM
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NSW STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS 2019
We had a terrific turnout with 51 registrations and 49 sailors on the water each day!

great sailing and race management.

Many sincere thanks to all of you who showed up, paid $50 entry, free t-shirt, free bbq and fruit platter each day and some good windsurfing conditions at Balmoral. GREAT VALUE FOR TWO DAYS OF FUN.

Special thanks to Mel Webb BSC & WCAA for her work in bring the event to Balmoral, Laurie Hoffman BSC, Evan McHugh RO TASC & WCAA, Greg Johns Windgenuity WCAA and BSC, Karen Murden, WCAA EVENT SCORING GURU, PETER DOOLAN FOR PUSHING ME ALONG AND MOTIVATIONAL SUPPORT, Rob Owe-Young, BSC photographer who did an awesome job on rescue boat and some fantastic pics for us to enjoy, Tina from CUSTOM TROPHIES for some great medals, MAT HANAUT, FOUR FROGS CREPERIE for some much needed financial support, BRAD AND AMANDA, SURF LOGIC for turning up and showcasing their gear and providing some terrific prizes, SAM PARKER, WSS BOARDS also showed up after running a SUP event at Balmoral on Sunday morning and also providing some great prizes, Nick Bez and Paul Grimshaw for their support, guidance and promotions, Windsurfer Class Australia and all the NSW HELPERS, LIKE PAT CONNOLLY, STEVE SHIMELD, Simon Jones, Lisa Jackson, Walshy, Roger Crawford any many more, THE CHAMPIONS AND THE ALSO RANS who turned up knowing they wouldn't win any titles but loved the atmosphere, sailing and great cameraderie (like myself) WHO MADE THE CHAMPS LOOK GOOD, all the BSC VOLUNTEERS and club officials who got this event off the ground, helped plan and organise and provided resources ON RACE AND RESCUE BOATS AND IN THE CANTEEN.

More photos available via Balmoral Sailing Club facebook page and Rob Owe Young FB page.

Everyone looking forward to our next City Summer Series Heat at Narrabeen Lakes on 12th Jan and The Nationals at Adelaide late January.

GO to
www.windsurferclassaus.com
Event Calendar - for more info and to register in these events and enjoy sailing with stacks of like minded sailors -before its too late!

Limited edition last minute t shirts to make up for the late surge in competitors









Lisa Jackson TASC

Wil Wright Lake Mac

Michael Lancey Lake Mac

Pat Connolly, BSC and yours truly trying to keep up...

some of the field at the start line

Rohan Cudmore, Scotty O'Connor, Marty Stone

Lisa, Simon, Richard Lacey and Paul Ivshenko and someone? enjoying a dip...

The Champs

The Booty up for grabs

Medals and booty

Will Wright

Peter Doolan

"Big" Al Haynes - funny I was always little Al in my younger days...

Riccardo Renna, Balmoral Watersports Instructor from Lake Garda Italy - Sail number matched his performance when the wind kicked in.

Start Boat - Michelle McHugh, Evan McHugh, Bic Guys and Johnsy doing a terrific job

Event Long Sleeve shirts

Still Standing Up

Windsurfer... an essential part of every enthusiasts kit





TIGHT COMPETITION

RIG ADJUSTMENTS AND TIME FOR A CHAT



even champions fall

or is it a new freestyle move?

Young Webby showing her enthusiasm

Walshy

Roger sailing a submarine? no its a one design! holding his own in a field full of LT's

Westy blasting it

another Lake Mac sailor, Grant Shultz TASC

Dolly doing his thing

Scotty O showing his style

Stu Gilberts board hiding behind the swells

Mel performed well

Camouflage for LT1

Plenty of action on the water with huge cruisers making sailing interesting

Lisa with her smile on the dial - who said Windsurfers were boring?

Whew! near miss - Glad Santa and his helpers know the rules!

Approaching top mark and looking a bit dicey - STARBOARD!

Intense tight action at the top mark

it all happening

Close combat

Paul Ivshenko with close competition from Steve Newman all weekend

Jorn Kronkhe

one of our wonderful sponsors Gwenda Hanaut clearly enjoying herself

amazing Grace

Paulie

Mal Rofe was a tough & dominant competitor - back after a long break due to injury

Mat Ivshenko, Mal, wil and Rob Jones

tight

Two of our Champs of the weekend Michael and Stevie

waddaya do when you've missed the manly ferry? catch it of course


Wishing YOU, Merry Christmas and a happy New Year to all my Windsurfing Friends... on Facebook, Seabreeze and on the water

We still are the coolest crowd!

Whether you sail a windsurfer a foil, Raceboard, slalom surf formula techno div 2 rsx or whatever else, all that matters is that you get on the water and have some fun! Windsurfing is better with mates and this year I am grateful for all the mates I've gained in the Windsurfer class! Cheers, Al

albymongrel
NSW, 257 posts
25 Dec 2019 9:27AM
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windinyaface said..
Someone mentioned putting a tennis ball on the daggerboard to be more comfy on your feet operating it. I've put a stubby cooler on mine with a zip tie. Works well.



Great idea, may just try the stubby holder. You can fix just about anything with a zip tie

windsufering
VIC, 1124 posts
31 Dec 2019 6:36AM
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As 2019 comes to an end, what a fantastic growth the Wally Lt had .
Racing Windsurfers at a national championship returns to SA after a thirty year absence .

www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/219731/2020-Windsurfer-Class-Australian-Championships

With a well oiled association, and hard work by the SA windsurfer crew expect a cracking good time .


Windsurfer Lt the bad boys of windsurfing

delmar71
NSW, 84 posts
1 Jan 2020 8:23AM
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This is a possibly useless/moot discussion point, but I'll put it out there anyway.
I'm totally on board (ha) with the one design, cheap and simple aspect of the LT. Suggestions of additions and alterations very rapidly threaten this (very successful) formula. I like it the way it is.

However, it doesn't seem to mess with this too much if we could change gears while sailing: aka, adjust down haul and out haul. Not much cost (I don't think?) or complexity to make board more manageable and faster.
Even lasers have this. Hobie 16 is the only class I've sailed where downhaul was not easy to adjust, but even then you had a crew to send in to do it if you really needed.

Of course, much more experienced and expert people than me have designed and marketed the LT, so there must be reasons. What are they? (Maybe it's just the history, not the nature of the beast, so to speak, which I'd respect).
Or would others like to see this?

Happs for new year!

Gestalt
QLD, 14627 posts
1 Jan 2020 8:34PM
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first LT sail of the year today. 6 of us sailed to a local island for a swim and lunch.

4 adults on LT's, 3 with the 5.7m LT rig and 1 with a severne wave sail. we also had a child sitting on the back of one board. and 2 11yo kids on WOD with 3.6 and 3.8m rigs.

we land on the lee of the island so the 5-10 knots soon dropped to 0-5knots swirling. fantastic challenge for the kids on how to negotiate tricky conditions and get the most out of the gusts.

after some food, a drink and a dive from the island jetty we launched off the beach to sail back to the channel and return home

rounding the western end of the island and into clean wind we were able to make the most of a 15 knot seabreeze and head upwind through the channel and building 1 foot swell back to the mainland.

everyone was fully powered and the kids were loving it.

finished the day with a beer and snack on a front verandah with friends overlooking the beach

windsufering
VIC, 1124 posts
6 Jan 2020 12:05PM
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2020 Australian Windsirfer Nationals are not far away.
With 96 entrants so far it's going to be big !!!
Details and entry follow this Link .

theclubspot.com/regatta/uGjqsKWUWf?fbclid=IwAR0zZWbxPqQ2d9al7kpMavz2LrxuMnxQGoQlntq5j43gAKcXoBhj1Cdgpco

The social side side of things are taken care of with organised dinners and other functions !
but if your after cabana and coon cheese with cask wine, I'm sure the social people at this regatta can cater for you !
as well as any other dietary request you have.
also live music will be in attendance !


sboardcrazy
NSW, 8224 posts
6 Jan 2020 12:17PM
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Sorry I don't want to read all the pages..I have a friend who has an original wally with a tie on boom and triangle sail and might want to upgrade.
I had a quick look at the windsurfer LT site .. can you get ones that have footstraps? If so anyone got a link?
I found one secondhand but it doesn't look to have straps.. can all of them have straps added?

Chris 249
NSW, 3513 posts
6 Jan 2020 1:33PM
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Nope, there's no straps on the LT. Think of the LT as being like a Mal surfboard - "walking the board" is part of the fascination and challenge in both of them.

I'd imagine Dolly Divola or someone could retro-fit straps if you wanted them, though. Try him at Divola Boats.

sboardcrazy
NSW, 8224 posts
6 Jan 2020 2:21PM
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Chris 249 said..
Nope, there's no straps on the LT. Think of the LT as being like a Mal surfboard - "walking the board" is part of the fascination and challenge in both of them.

I'd imagine Dolly Divola or someone could retro-fit straps if you wanted them, though. Try him at Divola Boats.


So there is no modern Wally with straps?

cro
QLD, 7 posts
6 Jan 2020 2:00PM
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What does "LT" actually stand for?

RichardG
WA, 3758 posts
6 Jan 2020 3:04PM
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cro said..
What does "LT" actually stand for?



I think it is an abbreviation of "Light", since it is a lightened version and a more modern design than the original Windsurfer and the later Windsurfer One Design. The trademark which may have been registered may or may not have been aided by the use of the made up name LT.

www.cobrainter.com/files/3215/2292/5263/Cobra-CS-WhiteBoard-v2.compressed.pdf

The Windsurfer One Design had foostraps in the 1986 version but many did not use them.

Here is an advert for the 1986 Windsurfer One Design which replaced the original.(Freesail October/November 1986)




AUS 814
NSW, 453 posts
6 Jan 2020 6:16PM
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Maybe we should start another topic and people can indicate what the LT , might stand for

RichardG
WA, 3758 posts
6 Jan 2020 3:26PM
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AUS 814 said..
Maybe we should start another topic and people can indicate what the LT , might stand for


Windsurfing is an extension of creativity. If you feel inclined please do as you say.

windsufering
VIC, 1124 posts
8 Jan 2020 2:30PM
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Wooo hooo 100 entrants so far for the Nationals in South Australia.
clap clap clap clap

AUS 814
NSW, 453 posts
8 Jan 2020 7:11PM
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Outstanding

RichardG
WA, 3758 posts
8 Jan 2020 6:18PM
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Amazing gangbusters numbers of entrants so far...its going to be huge...as we approach the regatta...wish I was going to be there...Good luck to all and especially best wishes for the WA crew attending ! Its interesting that out of the 105 entrants to date that there are 13 entrants, under 18 years of age, so far registered: theclubspot.com/regatta/uGjqsKWUWf

windsufering
VIC, 1124 posts
9 Jan 2020 6:50PM
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108 entrants wooo hooooo, last year at NSW 107 entrants.
Big windsurfer fleet Racing returns to South Australia.!!!

Windsurfer Lt = Big fleets



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