Easiest jiber in my quiver is the '01 Naish Freeride 85 liter. Highest percentage of full planing out jibes [maybe 70%], and close to 98% makes out of 300 attempts. I do botch a few with any board.
I ride 85 liter boards maybe 60 days a season for over 35 years.
Select to expand quotesailquik said..Ian K said..
So what do you do after making steady improvement, over more decades than you'd like to admit to, you come to the realisation that in the last 5 years you've somehow stopped getting any better?
The closer you get to perfection, the harder it is to improve. 
Just do it more often and smile. 
I just LOVE gybing. Apart from going really FAST on a broad reach, it IS the best thing in windsurfing! 
I love gybing in flatwater.. If only I could do them in chop.
I miss that powered up planing feeling.
Select to expand quoteMacroscien said..sailquik said..Ian K said..
So what do you do after making steady improvement, over more decades than you'd like to admit to, you come to the realisation that in the last 5 years you've somehow stopped getting any better?
The closer you get to perfection, the harder it is to improve. Just do it more often and smile.
I just LOVE gybing. Apart from going really FAST on a broad reach, it IS the best thing in windsurfing! 
BTW.
\What I found very challenging is getting down wind after gybe, not making complete 180 degree turn. Somehow most of the gybes turns I do are over done and I need then correct down wind later on.Most scary part is possibly mental block, to quickly flip sail and take full wind power into sail. After we clear foot work here , any tips regarding flipping sail will be appreciated.Timing, position etcI could observe that good gybers tends to power their sails during the gybe cycle as much as possible.
It's a common tendency to have your body weight too far back during a gybe. Once you release the back hand there is then a lot of weight on the back rail and you carve even harder, the nose comes up and you end up pointing too high, as well as washing off a lot of speed.
I've made good alpha gains by focusing on weight further forward, like a good ski turn, lead with the body weight into the fall line. Visually place your back foot slightly further forward than you usually would, the board will follow.
Being further forward I had to make a modification when the power comes on in the new tack. I now crouch down so I am more stable and can drive with the legs very early (instead of sheeting and leaning back which would again stall the board and over carve the turn).
It's a never ending journey seeking gybing perfection, but what a great journey it is!!!
Learn to ride a sinker and you quick learn to bend knees and drive off the balls of your feet.
Select to expand quoteJetlag said..Macroscien said..sailquik said..Ian K said..
So what do you do after making steady improvement, over more decades than you'd like to admit to, you come to the realisation that in the last 5 years you've somehow stopped getting any better?
The closer you get to perfection, the harder it is to improve. Just do it more often and smile.
I just LOVE gybing. Apart from going really FAST on a broad reach, it IS the best thing in windsurfing!
BTW.
\What I found very challenging is getting down wind after gybe, not making complete 180 degree turn. Somehow most of the gybes turns I do are over done and I need then correct down wind later on.Most scary part is possibly mental block, to quickly flip sail and take full wind power into sail. After we clear foot work here , any tips regarding flipping sail will be appreciated.Timing, position etcI could observe that good gybers tends to power their sails during the gybe cycle as much as possible.
It's a common tendency to have your body weight too far back during a gybe. Once you release the back hand there is then a lot of weight on the back rail and you carve even harder, the nose comes up and you end up pointing too high, as well as washing off a lot of speed.
I've made good alpha gains by focusing on weight further forward, like a good ski turn, lead with the body weight into the fall line. Visually place your back foot slightly further forward than you usually would, the board will follow.
Being further forward I had to make a modification when the power comes on in the new tack. I now crouch down so I am more stable and can drive with the legs very early (instead of sheeting and leaning back which would again stall the board and over carve the turn).
It's a never ending journey seeking gybing perfection, but what a great journey it is!!!
true, true
I will try
till get mine first 25ktn alpha
Lest suppose that our plan is to make 25 ktn alpha.Lets assume that sailor is already quite skilled and efficient.
What will be practically minimum entry speed to make possible alpha 25?
If somebody running 30 kn constant on entry leg, will be able to finish with 25 average?
or we need rather higher speed like 32 or 35? I could see that good gybers keep/maintained their speed above 15 ktn at the lowest point during the gybe.
Interesting will be also to see who was able to sustain the highest speed during the gybe - something like 20 ( minimum on alpha graph) ?
I am admittedly one of the WORST gybers I know....
I have tried everything but am still useless!
A recent piece of advice worked wonders for me- just before gybing, slide the back hand way back on the boom and SLIDE THE FRONT HAND BACK BESIDE THE FRONT OF THE HARNESS LINE!!!
I found this 'more rearward front hand' pulls me forward and into the turn keeping the nose of the board down and the speed up. I'm still a shocker but can now plane through many of my gybes and rarely fall if I don't plane through.
Note: this is not advice, just what worked for me .
I find this talk of gybing refreshing it proves to be such an ellusive technique for many and many a good sailors techniques come undone in differing conditions. Still the same as it was 22 years ago, 22 yrs of gear advancment has not fixed the conundrum that is gybing for many.
What works for one will not necessarily work for another. Its a journey of self discovery
Only 22 years?
Jibing, planing out, was for the select few in 1985.
Lucky for me, those years I was actually decent.
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true, true
I will try
till get mine first 25ktn alpha
Lest suppose that our plan is to make 25 ktn alpha.Lets assume that sailor is already quite skilled and efficient.
What will be practically minimum entry speed to make possible alpha 25?
If somebody running 30 kn constant on entry leg, will be able to finish with 25 average?
or we need rather higher speed like 32 or 35? I could see that good gybers keep/maintained their speed above 15 ktn at the lowest point during the gybe.
Interesting will be also to see who was able to sustain the highest speed during the gybe - something like 20 ( minimum on alpha graph) ?
Good question Macro. :-)
I went back and had a look at the speed graphs for some of my 25 knots Alphas from LG this year and I seem to be running high 20's on the in-run, peaking at 30 on the turn-in, min speed around 12-13 knots, and getting back to high 20's at the end of the out-run.
I made some screen grabs of them and will make a new topic to post them. I recon it could be quite interesting fto see other peoples graphs and maybe share some tips about them.
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Only 22 years?
Jibing, planing out, was for the select few in 1985.
Lucky for me, those years I was actually decent.
I am more than sure that was the case, I however was 4y/o in 1985 and was nailing every gybe without a thought or care in the world.
If you have the wrong technique, it doesn't really matter what gear you have, although some gear is more forgiving of bad technique than others. Freerace boards like the Fox, F-race etc are very good to gybe. Modern slalom boards are also very good.
Going boom to boom feels so foreign to me. I just cant ever see myself learning it - a bit like tacks.
I have done a few dozen boom to boom gybes but only in really flat conditions with a 5 and 5.8 m sail. When i use my 6.2 or bigger not going to happen - period.
3 cam is easier than 4 cam and sails that rig quite flat are usually easier to gybe.
100 litre with my 5.8m and 34 Lockwood carbon fin is my idea of heaven on a windsurfer.
I only now use 3 sail sizes - 5m,5.8m and 7m. My gybes with my 7m are so poor by comparison especially when i put it on my only other board my 110.
1985 Seatrend 9' x 23" was super easy to plane thru and out of jibes.
That year's production 9'4" also.
As it's raining too much to go windsurfing today, I made a new video and there is a small review about the Waterspeed app in the end. Have a nice weekend, Kasper
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As it's raining too much to go windsurfing today, I made a new video and there is a small review about the Waterspeed app in the end. Have a nice weekend, Kasper
I reckon each of your videos needs it's own thread
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If you have the wrong technique, it doesn't really matter what gear you have, although some gear is more forgiving of bad technique than others. Freerace boards like the Fox, F-race etc are very good to gybe. Modern slalom boards are also very good.
Yep, like the saying goes: "I can teach it to you, but I can't learn it for you"
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Hi Kasper....I don.t think that descriptoion of the 98 rocker can be correc t, no way it is flat to 150cm off the tail, would expect it to be around 17 to 20mm of rocker at that point. Would be interesting to stick a straight edge on and see.
You're very correct Mr Love!! Don't think I'd go for a 1.5 metre flat either.
It is in fact, 80cm.
We're waiting for the 108 and 88 to arrive!!!
Select to expand quotecald said..
I find this talk of gybing refreshing it proves to be such an ellusive technique for many and many a good sailors techniques come undone in differing conditions. Still the same as it was 22 years ago, 22 yrs of gear advancment has not fixed the conundrum that is gybing for many.
What works for one will not necessarily work for another. Its a journey of self discovery
That proves that the industry is making or marketing the wrong boards and rigs, or the wrong way of sailing, IMHO.
