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Slalom board vs kite-foiling ?

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Created by fpw9082 > 9 months ago, 29 May 2020
airsail
QLD, 1535 posts
1 Jun 2020 11:30AM
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Shifu said..

airsail said..
On a sailboard a bit of airtime is no issue, the fin sticks and you power on, too easy.



Yep, the only problem then is deciding which side to pass you on!


Upwind side, if we crash we go down hard on the downwind side. Then there are those dyneema kite lines to worry about. Kiters have to practice social distancing a lot more than sailboarders.

Shifu
QLD, 1992 posts
1 Jun 2020 3:19PM
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airsail said..


Shifu said..



airsail said..
On a sailboard a bit of airtime is no issue, the fin sticks and you power on, too easy.





Yep, the only problem then is deciding which side to pass you on!




Upwind side, if we crash we go down hard on the downwind side. Then there are those dyneema kite lines to worry about. Kiters have to practice social distancing a lot more than sailboarders.



Haha! If only! I truth we have to pass you on the downwind side because kiters edge just a little too high for us. Hence we pass underneath and pray the kiters look behind before jumping (they never do ).

fpw9082
QLD, 173 posts
1 Jun 2020 4:28PM
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airsail said..

fpw9082 said..


airsail said..



LeeD said..
On a up and down course, kitefoil rules.
But what about reaching, beam, close, and off the wind like real world angles?





As a kiter I can get past the sail boards on a reach in "just" planing conditions. But when sailboards are powered I can't keep up as getting the foil quickly through the swells is difficult. I'm sure the top kite racers are faster in all conditions but when it's just the locals the sailboards will have the edge in higher winds just due to water conditions.

I know I'm quicker on my sailboard when using a 5 mtr sail and under than any kitefoil gear I own.




If you on foil why is difficult to goes through swells? foil dont feel chop..



They do feel chop, over 15 knots there are quite large swells moving through our local and a lot of water movement. My mast is 110 cm, if the swell is larger than this you need to navigate the peaks and troughs to stop the foil breaching. Any exposure of the front wing above the water is instant crash. You also have to contend with the peaks, letting the foil rise over them so you don't bury the nose, but then quickly drop down the other side so you don't breach. This is all bloody hard at speed.
On a sailboard a bit of airtime is no issue, the fin sticks and you power on, too easy.


if you feel chop,does your board hit chop or mast is angled so he also feel impact of chop?

Ian K
WA, 4155 posts
1 Jun 2020 5:51PM
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lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
1 Jun 2020 7:56PM
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Shifu said..
Haha! If only! I truth we have to pass you on the downwind side because kiters edge just a little too high for us. Hence we pass underneath and pray the kiters look behind before jumping (they never do ).



Oh we look....
and then aim lol

Mr Keen
QLD, 677 posts
1 Jun 2020 8:39PM
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lotofwind said..




Shifu said..
Haha! If only! I truth we have to pass you on the downwind side because kiters edge just a little too high for us. Hence we pass underneath and pray the kiters look behind before jumping (they never do ).







Oh we look....
and then aim lol




Not funnyspent weeks off the water due this sort of garbage attitude.... just hope karma will take these sort of knob ends off the water over time

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
1 Jun 2020 9:15PM
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lol it was a joke, do you really think the person that hit you purposely looked and aimed at you??

Mr Keen
QLD, 677 posts
1 Jun 2020 9:26PM
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Unfortunately there are a minority of kiters out there that have no regard for right of way, the safety of others or themselves... leave it at that hey

Shifu
QLD, 1992 posts
2 Jun 2020 12:42AM
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I should add that the crew at my local are very cool dudes.

olskool
QLD, 2459 posts
2 Jun 2020 1:24AM
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Watched in total amazement the other day as a gumby Kiter trying to start, took out a fully planing windsurfer. Kite swooped down n took out upper mast. Un aware Rider n sail just slapped down...

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
2 Jun 2020 4:15PM
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Mr Keen said..
Unfortunately there are a minority of kiters out there that have no regard for right of way, the safety of others or themselves... leave it at that hey


Yep, agreed, but there is also a minority of polers that have no regard of the safety of others or themselves as well, so we will leave it at that hey.

Mr Keen
QLD, 677 posts
2 Jun 2020 7:09PM
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lotofwind said..

Mr Keen said..
Unfortunately there are a minority of kiters out there that have no regard for right of way, the safety of others or themselves... leave it at that hey



Yep, agreed, but there is also a minority of polers that have no regard of the safety of others or themselves as well, so we will leave it at that hey.


That's my green thumb, maybe we should team up and give them a good shake. I say start a thread "Just calling out that knob end at my home spot"... good winds Loto

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
2 Jun 2020 10:14PM
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Your best bet is to talk to the, in your words, "knob ends" at your home town, walk up and say G'day, talk about how good the surf was bla bla bla, then once friendly start talking about the issues.
You might find someone dosent even realize they are pissing you off, will feel bad that they have been pissing you off and change their ways.
They might even tell you that your pissing them off getting in the way some how that you didnt even realize your self. Win win.
The majority of people in life are pretty decent.

And if they don't...and say get stuffed old timer...let their tyres down when their out in the water lol
Starting a forum thread that they wont probably even see wont help.

Oh, and back on topic, kite foiler will absolutely smash a slalom sailor without a doubt, always, every time.

fpw9082
QLD, 173 posts
4 Jun 2020 5:07AM
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lotofwind said..
Oh, and back on topic, kite foiler will absolutely smash a slalom sailor without a doubt, always, every time.


will kite-foiler smash wsurf-foiler even more,in every course and wind strength?



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