it is not a BOM site issue but ther seems to be no wind info for lake macquarie - i can get nobbys head and cooranbong and maybe belmont ? 
but nothing on lake
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its a bit clunky isnt it, especially compared to windy and the commercial apps.
but 3 big improvements which make it gold compared to the apps
- 7 day hourly forecast
- 4 forecast updates per day
- wind observations that havent been averaged or mucked around with
Also I find BOM and its ACCESS and ACCESS-C forecasts the most accurate for tassie.
ACCESS-C is a 2 day high resolution forecast which will let you see local variations. You can see it on windy.com, just change the forecast model.. Way better to look at than meteye
Great Tips cheers
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it is not a BOM site issue but ther seems to be no wind info for lake macquarie - i can get nobbys head and cooranbong and maybe belmont ? but nothing on lake
www.lmycmeteo.com.au/template/indexMobile.php
Bit of an idea. It can occasionally go down.
Can anyone help me here. I hate the new site but I'm really trying to learn my way around. ('surely it can't be that bad' I thinks to myself)..
But I live a few minutes from the bellambi weather station, so I use it all the time to make decisions as to when/where/what to take. This: www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN60901/IDN60901.94749.shtml
For the life of me I can't find my way to this through the new site. Best I can find is to allow it to use my location, where it then selects bellambi as closest and I get this www.bom.gov.au/location/australia/new-south-wales/illawarra/o113322963-corrimal/accessible-observations
Useful enough but what if I'm at work in Sydney and want to start dreaming of an after work sail and bellambi isn't my closest station?
It shouldn't be this hard to work out! Or maybe I'm just slow.?
Edit: what I want is this. www.bom.gov.au/nsw/observations/sydneymap.shtml
It still exists but how the hell do you get there from the new site?!
Possibly this
www.bom.gov.au/nsw/observations/sydney.shtml
or
www.bom.gov.au/nsw/observations/nswall.shtml
haha your tax payer dollars at work delmar 
good forecasts, sucky website
i think the new site is meant to revolve around locations as the starting point, not forecasts or observations
Process i use is
1. site search to find the location
2. make the location a favourite location (get back to it quickly next time and it stays on your home screen)
3. Use Today to see the forecast, Past to look at observations.
I like Text only table, gives a quick view of the hourly wind forecast for next 7 days
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Can anyone help me here. I hate the new site but I'm really trying to learn my way around.
Don't torture yourself. just continue using the old site at: reg.bom.gov.au/
Select to expand quoteelmo said..
Possibly this
www.bom.gov.au/nsw/observations/sydney.shtml
or
www.bom.gov.au/nsw/observations/nswall.shtml
Sure but that doesn't answer my question - how does one get to them from the new site?
Select to expand quotestehsegler said..delmar71 said..
Can anyone help me here. I hate the new site but I'm really trying to learn my way around.
Don't torture yourself. just continue using the old site at: reg.bom.gov.au/
Yeah thanks AI Dave for the answer, somewhat helpful, but a far cry from the ease of use of the old site.
Geez I'm getting grumpy. Everything really was better back in the day.
Select to expand quotedelmar71 said..
Geez I'm getting grumpy. Everything really was better back in the day.
You're not grumpy, you're just pragmatic (like most of us here). It's pretty simple to me: Steering wheel, brake, accelerator etc. We all learn to use this standard instrumentation in a car. The ADR don't then change everything on a whim to improve user experience, like these f/wits have done. I'm really pissed off about it actually. it's bad enough we have the algae here.
Select to expand quoteYeah thanks AI Dave for the answer, somewhat helpful, but a far cry from the ease of use of the old site.
Geez I'm getting grumpy. Everything really was better back in the day.
Read Cory Doctorow's book "En****ification: Why Everything Suddenly Got Worse". Explains in great detail why a lot of things that were great in the digital space have suddenly turned to a pile of crap.
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You're not grumpy, you're just pragmatic (like most of us here). It's pretty simple to me: Steering wheel, brake, accelerator etc. We all learn to use this standard instrumentation in a car. The ADR don't then change everything on a whim to improve user experience, like these f/wits have done. I'm really pissed off about it actually. it's bad enough we have the algae here.
I think the problem is deeper here. It appears they didn't do any analysis of the existing site to figure out what is actually being used and how. Usually this is combo of looking at usage patterns in the analytics and doing interviews with actual users. Given they had a $4 million budget to redesign you'd assume that would happen.
Clearly what ever team designed the new UI doesn't actually use weather forecasts beyond "is it going to rain today / tomorrow / next week and what will the temperature be". Pretty much what you already get from your iPhone / Android weather app. Of course most people like farmers, water sports users, recreational and professional fisher etc. use the site for a little bit more than just that basic info.
Select to expand quotedelmar71 said..
Can anyone help me here. I hate the new site but I'm really trying to learn my way around. ('surely it can't be that bad' I thinks to myself)..
But I live a few minutes from the bellambi weather station, so I use it all the time to make decisions as to when/where/what to take. This: www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN60901/IDN60901.94749.shtml
For the life of me I can't find my way to this through the new site. Best I can find is to allow it to use my location, where it then selects bellambi as closest and I get this www.bom.gov.au/location/australia/new-south-wales/illawarra/o113322963-corrimal/accessible-observations
Useful enough but what if I'm at work in Sydney and want to start dreaming of an after work sail and bellambi isn't my closest station?
It shouldn't be this hard to work out! Or maybe I'm just slow.?
Edit: what I want is this. www.bom.gov.au/nsw/observations/sydneymap.shtml
It still exists but how the hell do you get there from the new site?!
Bookmark the Page you want so you don't have to go through that everyone you want it.
Select to expand quotestehsegler said..jn1 said..
You're not grumpy, you're just pragmatic (like most of us here). It's pretty simple to me: Steering wheel, brake, accelerator etc. We all learn to use this standard instrumentation in a car. The ADR don't then change everything on a whim to improve user experience, like these f/wits have done. I'm really pissed off about it actually. it's bad enough we have the algae here.
I think the problem is deeper here. It appears they didn't do any analysis of the existing site to figure out what is actually being used and how. Usually this is combo of looking at usage patterns in the analytics and doing interviews with actual users. Given they had a $4 million budget to redesign you'd assume that would happen.
Clearly what ever team designed the new UI doesn't actually use weather forecasts beyond "is it going to rain today / tomorrow / next week and what will the temperature be". Pretty much what you already get from your iPhone / Android weather app. Of course most people like farmers, water sports users, recreational and professional fisher etc. use the site for a little bit more than just that basic info.
I've been travelling since it came up..no windsurfing. It's good for looking up basic weather in each place and the 7 day forecast..sounds like the wind could be tweaked..
I've given them my feedback.
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Geez I'm getting grumpy. Everything really was better back in the day.
You're not grumpy, you're just pragmatic (like most of us here). It's pretty simple to me: Steering wheel, brake, accelerator etc. We all learn to use this standard instrumentation in a car. The ADR don't then change everything on a whim to improve user experience, like these f/wits have done. I'm really pissed off about it actually. it's bad enough we have the algae here.
Cars, don't get me started. Car engineers in the late 2000's were sitting back going, 'We're in a great spot. Efficient, reliable, interesting to drive, reliable, RELIABLE'. And then bureaucrats said hold my beer. EGR, CVT, DPF, plastic everywhere in the engine bay, screens not buttons! tiny displacements with huge outputs, etc etc.
Love my 2013 manual base model Toyota.
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I've been travelling since it came up..no windsurfing. It's good for looking up basic weather in each place and the 7 day forecast..sounds like the wind could be tweaked..
I've given them my feedback.
Yeah, if I was a book worm, and deciding weather or not to read a book in the car all day. Govts and corps love to completely redesign their IT systems, and employees have to love it too if they want to keep working there. However, this will never fly with general public. I hope BOM f/wits have realised that.
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I've been travelling since it came up..no windsurfing. It's good for looking up basic weather in each place and the 7 day forecast..sounds like the wind could be tweaked..
I've given them my feedback.
Yeah, if I was a book worm, and deciding weather or not to read a book in the car all day. Govts and corps love to completely redesign their IT systems, and employees have to love it too if they want to keep working there. However, this will never fly with general public. I hope BOM f/wits have realised that.
They'll be getting sick of me.. I've put in about 4 feedbacks and an email saying the old site wind graphs were better and why,..
Select to expand quotesboardcrazy said..
They'll be getting sick of me.. I've put in about 4 feedbacks and an email saying the old site wind graphs were better and why,..
Go hard. Make em cry
Cost of new website is $96m
How does one go from $4m to $96m?
EDIT: The previous Age link may not work. This will: www.abc.net.au/news/2025-11-05/true-cost-of-bureau-of-meteorology-new-website/105948508
It's insane to think they will throw even more money at this "fix" what should have been done properly in first place.
the level of waste here is just mind boggling.
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Cars, don't get me started. Car engineers in the late 2000's were sitting back going, 'We're in a great spot. Efficient, reliable, interesting to drive, reliable, RELIABLE'. And then bureaucrats said hold my beer. EGR, CVT, DPF, plastic everywhere in the engine bay, screens not buttons! tiny displacements with huge outputs, etc etc.
Rose coloured glasses.
Cars weren't reliable - for example the Holden Barina.
Cars weren't efficient - we went from carburetor, to fuel-injection, to complete-combustion.
Cars were soot producers - this is why most major cities had acid-rain... or haven't you noticed that acid-rain isn't a thing in the modern era ?
Cars without crumple zones - hitting a tree or rolling your vehicle, used to kill you... now you get to walk away with a scratch
Driving long-distance even only as recently as 10yrs ago, was tiring - now with lane-keeping, adaptive-cruise, emergency-braking, collision avoidance and big central screen with 4G connectivity say for podcasts, it is now pleasant.
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Cost of new website is $96m
How does one go from $4m to $96m?
EDIT: The previous Age link may not work. This will: www.abc.net.au/news/2025-11-05/true-cost-of-bureau-of-meteorology-new-website/105948508
Content-management and website-redesign ... are two different things. The journalism here is a hit piece, designed to be silly - just like all modern media. There is a real and valid need keep systems/processes updated - if you dont think so, we can discuss this point specifically.
The website probably cost more than $4M because good websites do cost decent money, but it wouldn't be anywhere close to $70/90M
Select to expand quotemathew said..delmar71 said..
Cars, don't get me started. Car engineers in the late 2000's were sitting back going, 'We're in a great spot. Efficient, reliable, interesting to drive, reliable, RELIABLE'. And then bureaucrats said hold my beer. EGR, CVT, DPF, plastic everywhere in the engine bay, screens not buttons! tiny displacements with huge outputs, etc etc.
Rose coloured glasses.
Cars weren't reliable - for example the Holden Barina.
Cars weren't efficient - we went from carburetor, to fuel-injection, to complete-combustion.
Cars were soot producers - this is why most major cities had acid-rain... or haven't you noticed that acid-rain isn't a thing in the modern era ?
Cars without crumple zones - hitting a tree or rolling your vehicle, used to kill you... now you get to walk away with a scratch
Driving long-distance even only as recently as 10yrs ago, was tiring - now with lane-keeping, adaptive-cruise, emergency-braking, collision avoidance and big central screen with 4G connectivity say for podcasts, it is now pleasant.
I agree with almost everything you say.
Read my post. Notice I said late 2000's? The opinion that cars were generally more reliable (not all of them) between late 2000's through to early last decade is ubiquitous in the car enthusiast world.
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[I agree with almost everything you say.
Read my post. Notice I said late 2000's? The opinion that cars were generally more reliable (not all of them) between late 2000's through to early last decade is ubiquitous in the car enthusiast world.
I did read your post - EGR, DPF, etc specifically address acid-rain and other poor-air-quality issues in cities.
I could go on with more examples... however, you clearly didn't read mine as evidenced by such a low-effort response. So I'm not about to provide more examples of why newer vehicles are better in almost every way.
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[I agree with almost everything you say.
Read my post. Notice I said late 2000's? The opinion that cars were generally more reliable (not all of them) between late 2000's through to early last decade is ubiquitous in the car enthusiast world.
I did read your post - EGR, DPF, etc specifically address acid-rain and other poor-air-quality issues in cities.
I could go on with more examples... however, you clearly didn't read mine as evidenced by such a low-effort response. So I'm not about to provide more examples of why newer vehicles are better in almost every way.
Mate did I bully you at school or something? :)
All I said was that cars peaked in terms of reliability in a specific period about 10 years ago. It's contestable, for sure. But you extrapolated that into a series of things I didn't say at all. Nonetheless, I agree with you almost entirely!
And I agree with your last post, that EGR and DPF are intended for good outcomes. That they've been very problematic and caused reliability issues is a related but beside point.
We agree, but we're just having different conversations now.
I really am sorry for the bullying. I was young and insecure. I promise I've changed. :)
apparently the total cost to build the new BOM website was $96.5m
I can't even fathom how that website could cost so much.
www.abc.net.au/news/2025-11-23/bureau-of-meteorology-new-website-cost-blowout-to-96-million/106042202?utm_source=chatgpt.com
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apparently the total cost to build the new BOM website was $96.5m
I can't even fathom how that website could cost so much.
www.abc.net.au/news/2025-11-23/bureau-of-meteorology-new-website-cost-blowout-to-96-million/106042202?utm_source=chatgpt.com
Eh not really that was the cost of a long overdue re boot of the complete on line system. Bit of media hyperbole at work. Budget was well blown out but not the 94mil quoted by the ABC, and im an ABC fan!
Is the code of the site public?
Gov projects like this could/should be open?
So anybody skilled enough could take a look what did they get for the money.
Probably not a good idea from a cyber threats perspective. But you can look at the client code by right clicking and viewing page source in your browser. But, bear in mind some of the images and script will be generated by their server.
Haha, writing code didn't cost that much money. I bet it was wasted on consultancy, architecture, and again, and again. Then someone was actually coding whatever what was asked to code after which they realised they meant something else or requirements changed. Then repeat and repeat and the money is wasted quickly.
Government IT projects are deemed to fail and consultants abuse that. Instead of helping clients be successful, they just squeeze every cent out of them. Would think we know better by now.
