Do they exist?

There's 68l JP twin fins around going cheap, I like mine in the bigger winds with a 4.5 and 4.0, haven't had it out much lately but it's more comfortable than bigger boards with small sails, I'm same weight

Thanks. I'll put them on the list. Twin fin boards - what effect if any would the extra fins have in lake sailing? Had a look and a few around but a bit more than I want to pay ( newish ones).
What are the young gun wave like? Suitable for lake sailing B& J + flat?

They don't make freeride that boards that small do they? Looks like the choice is pretty limited?
Is it possible to have a fast board in chop but still not be hard to handle? I'm only intermediate and getting old..

I have an FANATIC twin 79L, that i can do real cheap. talking $200 cheap.
its had a repair but feels stronger then when new.

it goes fast, and handles the ocean chop we get around sydney with ease.

msg me if your keen

Hi Sue,

it sounds like you want two boards. One for the rougher stuff like a smaller version of your bigger green board around 80 litres in volume and then a tiny slalom board or speed board, something around 60 to 70 litres in volume and about 50cms wide or less. It would be great for the flat waters on the lakes around Toukley. Perhaps look at selling your Rocket and the Pocket Wave to rationalise the number of boards you have.


Well done on hitting 30 knots too.

Pretty sure in the 2006 - 2008 models, RRD did a 70L FSW. Would be pretty cheap now, and those slightly longer and skinner ones rode a bit better (nto that they are long and skinny like a 1990's board)

However that is getting pretty specific - hard to find no doubt - so just get the smallest FSW you can find

sorry but I just brought salty nic's naish sp 80 from up your way, had it out in some good size chop yesterday and jibed like a dream, what you need is a fast board but will also turn in chop,
I have modified heaps of boards and yet to match the construction of the naish , well I hope the construction of the later 80lt is as good as the 2007 , I haven't done anything to the 80 yet so im not sure if its the same layup
ps and yesterday n/e 20 to 30knts shanky point bagged a 36knt on the dial

Dezza all you need is a gps and you can take it for a test run

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Windxtasy said..

At our weight you don't want a speed board for 25 knots in chop, you want something which is safe and comfortable and fun because it's safe. Anything that is too fast is just going to feel dangerous. Wild chop is not for doing your best speeds. Those days are just for going out and having fun and feeling good because you've survived. FSW don't go small enough. A wave board with a fast rocker line and a single fin is my choice. More than one fin gets too draggy.
Now for 25 knots and flat water, that's where a small speed board comes into it's own. So yes, you need two boards. The one compromise does exist but it will be less than satisfactory in at least one of those scenarios.
Surprised your 78L is too big. My 74L Tabou is just right for those conditions - a bit slow but fun and safe. Mine is older and probably has a narrower tail. Actually now I have sanded the scrapes off the fin it will probably be a lot faster...

Yes.
Yeah I thought that.. Like my big board although I did get 29.05 on it!
I love my 78 but in conditions like these
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/New-South-Wales/Marmong-Point-GPS-Series-2/
the guys seem to be using boards their weight or a bit less so using a similar idea gets me to a 60-65ltre board.

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keef said..

So is that a waveboard?

no its a speed slalom that will handle chop, sue theres nothing wrong with living in the past, have a look at the conditions your sailing, if your going to sail in chop as well as weed beds you will need a narrow tail slalom board so you can use a small weed fin that will also handle chop , have a look at

mudskipper(www.gpsteamchallenge.com.au/sailor_session/show?date=2014-01-05&team=34) in the same conditions heavy chop and short speed runs through weed with a 17.5 weed fin and yes a 6.0mt race sail in 25 to 30 knts
so you need to get the picture
, you need a small fin and narrow tail board so you can get over the weed and not plow through it , you also need a weed fin like the MXR WEED SPEED, a nice thick foil so you can get the lift off the foil to go through the chop
getting back to the naish sp range www.windsurfing44.com/matos/Naish/2007/Naish_2007_Boards_Slalom_Pro_en.pdf
these boards have a lower rocker for early plaining with v in the tail for a smooth ride through chop and easy jibeing in chop and a narrow tail to handle small weed fins

if your sailing chop without weed then go for the newer boards with the wider tail and slalom fins so you can sail over the chop at speed
what you will also need to do is sort out the sh.t from the fly's and weigh up what suits your sailing conditions

IMHO a old Starboard Acid. I think they made a 66L one. They are very quick and great in Chop.

To be honest no board is suddenly going to make sailing in chop fast and easy. It takes a different mental state to just hook in power down and go for.
Try practicing by locking down and counting to 5. Once you can do that hold the power down for 10 and so.

If you're lucky you might find an older Starboard ProKids S-Type, I'm sure I've seen a couple for sale here in the past. They were designed to be a fast freeride. 72L, 210x55cm

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Starboard 2006 website said...
[br]ProKids S-Type
The accessible freeride blaster. Fast and comfortable blaster. Carve-style rails for exceptional jibing. Slalom board rocker for speed.

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Bender said..

IMHO a old Starboard Acid. I think they made a 66L one. They are very quick and great in Chop.

To be honest no board is suddenly going to make sailing in chop fast and easy. It takes a different mental state to just hook in power down and go for.
Try practicing by locking down and counting to 5. Once you can do that hold the power down for 10 and so.

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sboardcrazy said..

Squid Lips said..

If you're lucky you might find an older Starboard ProKids S-Type, I'm sure I've seen a couple for sale here in the past. They were designed to be a fast freeride. 72L, 210x55cm

Starboard 2006 website said...

ProKids S-Type
The accessible freeride blaster. Fast and comfortable blaster. Carve-style rails for exceptional jibing. Slalom board rocker for speed.

Sounds ok but still a little big I think..

Don't get a kids board without trying it first. When I was at your stage of thinking/speedsailing I tried a JP young gun 70L. It was the WORST session of sailing I have EVER had. The footstrap positions vs mast track are all wrong for an adult. They are made for smaller people. I have never been catapulted so much in my life!
4 years down the track my best solution is waveboard for choppy ballistic days and speed board for flat water windy days.
Re size - 60L may be great if the wind is consistently strong where you are. Where I sail there are often big lulls, especially in winter fronts so something with a bit of float is a big advantage. I find about 74L ideal.

That dude is 63 , He is my uncle , and a bloody good sailor . Thats a fanatic bee 84 liter , its more a bump and jump board .
I got smashed a few times in that chop trying to put the foot down on my AB+ 59 .