That was great thanks Peter I hope you get more work from putting those vids up. I couldnt wait for the next day for the new vid and worked out that I could see the next days vid if I went direct to youtube the evening before. Great to see some different time saving techniques eg routing the outline, interesting filler/sanding coat. I thought I was keeping Bunnings afloat with all the masking tape I buy. Your thread has got me amped to make another board.
Just got this email in last night which backs up what i was saying in these series of videos, about dealing direct with customers give us the ability to use superior materials for better constructed boards that give you the customer longer trouble free useage of our boards. Also it highlights the tread we started about 6 years ago,of the performance of larger volume waveboards. Just finished the first of the 2017 Hot Rod 132, hopfully i get some video footage over the next few weeks of this 132 Hot Rod. Thanks again for your comments about this video series.
Hi Pete, I have been meaning to send you a message for awhile now, Life just gets so dang busy that I kept forgetting. Anyways you built me this this big 115L Quad fin wave board probably about 5 years ago now. Although it didn’t go that well in the Big Lake waves of my home spot like I hoped it would. (A low pitch wave) Instead I took it to ,and kept it at my home away from home spot Cape Hatteras. That famous wave is very steep, and with the combination of zero wind on the inside, the 115 OES Quad worked perfect there. Soo good in fact it has built up quite a famous history. It was the first Big Liter wave board on the East coast back then. Now pretty much everyone is riding 100L+ Wave boards now after seeing how that board performs. I have used it exclusively in the AWT Hatteras wave comp the last 3 years, were with it I am a 2 time champion in the open/amateur division, and finished runner up once. I also made it to the Pro final last year, beating your boy “Russ” along the way. He is a very nice person, but I am sure you already know that. Plus that board and myself have made it into a couple of Windsurf magazines over the years. Only if that board could talk. Soo yes! you made one pretty awesome stick, and it still looks like the first day I unwrapped it. I just want to say Thank you very much for making this awesome board, and for having an open up enough mind to believe that Big wave boards can Rip, Something I always knew that was possible in my mind. I have been building some of my own surfboards the last couple of years. So I have an idea of how much skilled hard work and the massive amount of time that goes in to building these stupidly fun toys. Please keep up the stoke, and thanks again Pete.
Hit The Lip Casey Treichler
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2017 Hot Rod 132.
Hiya
Can someone give me some advice on a slalom/freeride layup. I have a vac setup and am planning to use 5mm hd foam on bottom and 3mm on the deck. My question is, how many layers of glass and carbon do I need?
Thanks in advance.
Here's my notes from my current slalom board.
251x57.6mm 88 litre
Squared blank = 1474gr
PVC'd (3mm M80) blank, 48gr glass under + Cf T stringer (150 wide) from 150-1400mm = 1927gr
Shaped blank = 1814gr
PVC on deck (3mm M80). 48gr glass under +200gr flat tow reinf @ fr feet and across
rear feet, over top of fin box, 1 x200gr x 65mm wide uni to 1400mm 12 shots resin = 2664gr
Inserts in.... mast track 132gr, vent 21gr, Fin box 178gr, 8 strap inserts 76gr = 3231gr
Deck laminated 1 full 5.8oz cf +1 full 48gr on top (dry) = 3742gr
Hull laminated 1 full 4.8oz cf +1 full 48gr (dry) 15 shots resin = 4309gr
Sealed, bogged, primed and deck texture = 5074gr
Pads on = 5273gr
Straps on = 5896gr
Making a new one now using 150gr biax uni on the deck (with the 48gr glass on top) and 125gr glass/72gr kevlar/48gr glass on the bottom.
Have used this bottom lay up on my lakes board, very smooth ride.
Seems that with modern tough PVC (I use Corecell) don't need a whole lot of material for the laminate.
I wet the layup on poly sheet , roll onto poster tube to apply to the blank, then lay the 48gr on dry. Vac pressure wets this layer out. Light!
48gr glass between the PVC and polystyrene along with glue mix spread on the PVC at perimeter and down centre line.
Don't go above 0.45bar pressure or you will lose the rocker.
0.3 bar is adequate.
I route a slot in the blank down centreline from front of fin box to 1400 point. Slot is 35mm deep (shortened jigsaw blade)
wet out a strip of cf, same length, 150mm wide, lay it over the slot and push it in with a metal squeegee blade. then lay the glass and PVC on top and vac bag. Works great for holding the rocker while the build goes on.
I have done similar in the past routed a 40mm deep by 6mm wide channel from tail to 1450mm cut 6mm thick PVC to fit in channel, wrapped wet 200gm carbon around PVC, then pushed this into the routed channel folded excess carbon onto foam then bagged on bottom PVC. Same board is 9 years old and still in use in Margaret River. Probably complete overkill so I never did it again.
Just want to make sure about a few things....
1. Are you guys using resin+microballoons for inserts and boxes?
2. Resins - we have different resins here in SA .....I have epolam 2022 with a 60 min potlife at 20 degrees and Gurit 106 where I only have potlife of 30 min at 20 degrees celsius. SHould I rather use epolam with a longer potlife?
Thanks.
First batch of 2017 boards with production cad / milled shapes with custom artwork
Wave Pro 125 , Xwave 115 , Wave Pro 100, Hot Rod 93

