Even more stoked with the new Phantasm
Westerly 37 knots measured, probably hit 40 briefly, the windiest I've foiled in. Used the standard PFI 730 wing which at 1,437 cm2 is a fairly big wing. Normally would have been on the much smaller Infinity 65.
The 103cm super-stiff carbon mast, streamlined wings and fuse help heaps with control when it's blowing hard.
I reckon if you're over 80kgs and want to go Phantasm you really do only need one setup for 10-40 knots - I wouldn't have thought it possible.
Comparing with the much cheaper Hoverglide;
The Infinity 76 wing's awesome for 10-25 knot winds, carves as well as the Phantasm and almost as fast.
20-35 knot winds, the Infinity 65 is amazing, super controllable - the fastest carving Slingshot wing.
What's fun about foiling in nuclear wind? Epic mid-river windswells, 1.5m+ when it blows over 30 knots ![]()
Wizard 114, Simmer Tricera 3.4



Even more stoked with the new Phantasm
Westerly 37 knots measured, probably hit 40 briefly, the windiest I've foiled in. Used the standard PFI 730 wing which at 1,437 cm2 is a fairly big wing. Normally would have been on the much smaller Infinity 65.
The 103cm super-stiff carbon mast, streamlined wings and fuse help heaps with control when it's blowing hard.
I reckon if you're over 80kgs and want to go Phantasm you really do only need one setup for 10-40 knots - I wouldn't have thought it possible.
Comparing with the much cheaper Hoverglide;
The Infinity 76 wing's awesome for 10-25 knot winds, carves as well as the Phantasm and almost as fast.
20-35 knot winds, the Infinity 65 is amazing, super controllable - the fastest carving Slingshot wing.
What's fun about foiling in nuclear wind? Epic mid-river windswells, 1.5m+ when it blows over 30 knots ![]()
Wizard 114, Simmer Tricera 3.4



JJ I see SS also has a new HW wing have you tried it yet?
Even more stoked with the new Phantasm
Westerly 37 knots measured, probably hit 40 briefly, the windiest I've foiled in. Used the standard PFI 730 wing which at 1,437 cm2 is a fairly big wing. Normally would have been on the much smaller Infinity 65.
The 103cm super-stiff carbon mast, streamlined wings and fuse help heaps with control when it's blowing hard.
I reckon if you're over 80kgs and want to go Phantasm you really do only need one setup for 10-40 knots - I wouldn't have thought it possible.
Comparing with the much cheaper Hoverglide;
The Infinity 76 wing's awesome for 10-25 knot winds, carves as well as the Phantasm and almost as fast.
20-35 knot winds, the Infinity 65 is amazing, super controllable - the fastest carving Slingshot wing.
What's fun about foiling in nuclear wind? Epic mid-river windswells, 1.5m+ when it blows over 30 knots ![]()
Wizard 114, Simmer Tricera 3.4



JJ I see SS also has a new HW wing have you tried it yet?
Ben, I haven't tried any new HG wings since the Infinity 65 - which wing do you mean?
Even more stoked with the new Phantasm
Westerly 37 knots measured, probably hit 40 briefly, the windiest I've foiled in. Used the standard PFI 730 wing which at 1,437 cm2 is a fairly big wing. Normally would have been on the much smaller Infinity 65.
The 103cm super-stiff carbon mast, streamlined wings and fuse help heaps with control when it's blowing hard.
I reckon if you're over 80kgs and want to go Phantasm you really do only need one setup for 10-40 knots - I wouldn't have thought it possible.
Comparing with the much cheaper Hoverglide;
The Infinity 76 wing's awesome for 10-25 knot winds, carves as well as the Phantasm and almost as fast.
20-35 knot winds, the Infinity 65 is amazing, super controllable - the fastest carving Slingshot wing.
What's fun about foiling in nuclear wind? Epic mid-river windswells, 1.5m+ when it blows over 30 knots ![]()
Wizard 114, Simmer Tricera 3.4



JJ I see SS also has a new HW wing have you tried it yet?
Ben, I haven't tried any new HG wings since the Infinity 65 - which wing do you mean?
JJ - I thought I saw a HA wing for the new carbon platform you have now
JJ - I thought I saw a HA wing for the new carbon platform you have now
I have the PTM 926 on loan from Jesper and had a few goes, awesome in lighter conditions.
Don't think it will have anywhere near the wind range of the standard PFI 730 wing.
Waiting for the PTM 730 - apparently super quick and carvey (as you would expect).
I'm thinking that high aspect isn't as big a deal for our style of foiling as for other disciplines?
We usually have plenty of sail power so foot pumping is not a big requirement (although fun to do).
We'll see - it might turn out I'm completely wrong ![]()

Slingshot had put some teasers on Youtube to be shown on August 20, 2021 -- they've now disappeared. I suspect that they've been pulled due to problems distributing the Phantasm foils worldwide. I was interested in this product but it has taken so long to get it to market (at least where I live) that I've pretty much given up ever owning one. ![]()
Ya, I noticed the premiere has been delayed several times. I'm sure glad I pulled the trigger back in april and bought the HG for my first foil rig. Don't think I could do justice to the phantasm yet anyway. Lots more practice needed. ![]()
With regards to the phantasm and general distribution of product it is a headache for many companies globally, what used to cost $5k for a 40ft container is more like $20k!
That is a big chunk of profit margin lost on freight alone.
There is also a container shortage coming into the U.S. from Asia,
a) they slowed down the manufacturing of freight containers 18 months ago and have not caught up, b) the U.S. imports more than they export and no one wants to pay for empty shipping containers going back to Asia, c) The new mega size cargo ships cannot just dock anywhere! and then you have issues like the Suez canal.
Experts predict this shortage at least to first quarter of 2022
With regards to the phantasm and general distribution of product it is a headache for many companies globally, what used to cost $5k for a 40ft container is more like $20k!
That is a big chunk of profit margin lost on freight alone.
There is also a container shortage coming into the U.S. from Asia,
a) they slowed down the manufacturing of freight containers 18 months ago and have not caught up, b) the U.S. imports more than they export and no one wants to pay for empty shipping containers going back to Asia, c) The new mega size cargo ships cannot just dock anywhere! and then you have issues like the Suez canal.
Experts predict this shortage at least to first quarter of 2022
Yep, it's pretty much every industry. I design systems for the semicondutor industry, I've had so many orders delayed 8+ months, I've had to redesign to available parts. Not the grade of parts I want, but with Global chip shortage, you work with what you can get.
I've had manufacturers (Germany) offer a 50% discount if I don't cancel the order.
Superstoked with the Phantasm and PTM high aspect wing.
Flies upwind at an average speed of 17 knots, crazy-loose and carvey downwind - best of both worlds ![]()
The carbon mast stiffness, sleek fuse and wings really help with control when properly powered up.
15-24 knot easterly. Wizard 114L, Simmer Enduro 6.5m


I was interested to see the new Slingshot Phastasm foil system as although I absolutely love my Slingshot hover glide 76 the construction is shocking especially the fuselage! I have had two break resulting in me losing my front wing and badly damaging my board so I am now nervous of using it. There is a big group of 76 users locally with several now thinking of changing to the much better made Starboard foils, in fact all foils are better made than the slingshot which is why I eagerly awaited the arrival of the new Phastasm which by the look of the pics I have seen looks amazing but again a couple of things seem to disappoint, the price which is very high compared to a lot of freeride foils and secondly the ones that have reached the UK after many months of delay only come with a plate fitting, how are we supposed to fit one to a tuttle box board, if you now need an adapter I think that rather defeats having a spanky expensive carbon mast, why can't Slingshot make a one piece tuttle box carbon mast or do they and they have just disappeared in distribution????
I was interested to see the new Slingshot Phastasm foil system as although I absolutely love my Slingshot hover glide 76 the construction is shocking especially the fuselage! I have had two break resulting in me losing my front wing and badly damaging my board so I am now nervous of using it. There is a big group of 76 users locally with several now thinking of changing to the much better made Starboard foils, in fact all foils are better made than the slingshot which is why I eagerly awaited the arrival of the new Phastasm which by the look of the pics I have seen looks amazing but again a couple of things seem to disappoint, the price which is very high compared to a lot of freeride foils and secondly the ones that have reached the UK after many months of delay only come with a plate fitting, how are we supposed to fit one to a tuttle box board, if you now need an adapter I think that rather defeats having a spanky expensive carbon mast, why can't Slingshot make a one piece tuttle box carbon mast or do they and they have just disappeared in distribution????
Can you elaborate on breakage ?. Are you hitting things underwater?. Is it all corrosion related?. Heavy riders jumping large wings?.
, # of hours used ?.
Just want to know so I know what to avoid.
Put mine together in April, and never taken it apart. I check everything is solid before I launch. No issues yet.
Interesting that the video once again focuses on freestyle moves and no swell carving. Are Slingshot aware that wave riding with wind foils is a 'thing'?
I think their marketing team are missing a whole market segment here . that more than a few of us are into. I think they only associate swell riding with wings.
I think their marketing team are missing a whole market segment here . that more than a few of us are into. I think they only associate swell riding with wings.
Agree - I'm surprised we haven't seen much windfoil swell carving video from the Gorge.
SUP, prone foilers and wingers are frothing over the spot for downwinding.
At least we can look forward to epic windfoil surf action from Florida soon ![]()
Interesting that the video once again focuses on freestyle moves and no swell carving. Are Slingshot aware that wave riding with wind foils is a 'thing'?
I think their marketing team are missing a whole market segment here . that more than a few of us are into. I think they only associate swell riding with wings.
Agreed. All the azymuth video's are a better marketing tool as also is the Glazier hood river stuff. Showcases more all around performance, carving, jibing, etc. I'm sure jumping is fun, but nothing I plan on doing.
Does anybody have more information about the Phantasm wings than the existing sheet?
Especially which wing is comparable to the Moses 1100?
Alex,
I'm not sure what sheet you have? This I think might be the closest wing to the moses1100.
Grant

Horey69, where can I download this info on all the Phantasm wings?
Maybe you can share?
s155
Are you based in Australia?
Nope, US ![]()
they are saying deliveries will start in a month. I pre-ordered a 730 kit.
s155
Man I work with Slingshot Australia and I think I had to wait for two years for my PTM730 Phantasm, demand and the ability of the factory production has held this up. Then there is shipping. They are worth waiting for.
s155
Man I work with Slingshot Australia and I think I had to wait for two years for my PTM730 Phantasm, demand and the ability of the factory production has held this up. Then there is shipping. They are worth waiting for.
I just want to see more info on wings, like areas, etc. The old teaser that circulates the web does not have it and is maybe outdated as I see the fuse size is already different.
s155
I am unfortunately unable to share the hype sheets, we are bound by agreements from the US team.
your best bet would be to talk with your nearest Slingshot Dealer.
Grant
When is Jesper getting some more in
J.J ?
I think I need one
Hey Rob, you'll love it.
Bigger dudes or anyone who's been foiling a year or more will appreciate the Phantasm upgrade.
October I think.
Def call Jesper or Tim ![]()
I do have my101 gw but sounds like the
phantasm is a step up from that
I'm not sure Rob, I only foiled the Ghost Whisperer once and that was a few years ago.
My guess is the new 103W mast is stiffer - the new Phantasm wings are awesome.
See what Jesper thinks ![]()
I was very lucky to get my hands on a Phantasm 730 ! I'm a fairly low hour wind foiler who has only just started to complete gibes. I have just upgraded from the HG 76 and have found the extra mast height has given me way more confidence in ocean swells and with the more locked in stable feeling has allowed me to power up more without fear of over foiling. I've had 4 sessions with the 73 in 15 knots and in 30 knots and it's worked with early lift equal to the 76 but with much more control in 30 knots . I think I'm progressing faster with the Phantasm and consequently loving it ![]()
![]()
![]()
Bring on the Summer !![]()