I'm 214 pounds and more or less 235 with the dry suit ect , so I wondered what board sizes guys like me are using . I'm on a Wizard 150 and up to 5.8 it is fine but from 7.0 to 8.5 I think It could have slightly more volume .
Is there a good windfoil board review somewhere ?
Thanks .
I'm using a Levitator 160 with sails that range from 3.8 Sailworks revolution, 4.8 Duotone Super session, 6.0 and 7.0 Sailworks Flyer, and an 8.0 Ezzy Cheetah. ... i have a new 9.3 S-pace from Duotone coming. In light wind I'm on the i99 wing. But as soon as the wind gets to 14mph+ I go to the i84. Planning on adding an i76 this spring.
I am 51 years old, 6'4" and 225.
I'm 214 pounds and more or less 235 with the dry suit ect , so I wondered what board sizes guys like me are using . I'm on a Wizard 150 and up to 5.8 it is fine but from 7.0 to 8.5 I think It could have slightly more volume .
Is there a good windfoil board review somewhere ?
Thanks .
I'm using a Levitator 160 with sails that range from 3.8 Sailworks revolution, 4.8 Duotone Super session, 6.0 and 7.0 Sailworks Flyer, and an 8.0 Ezzy Cheetah. ... i have a new 9.3 S-pace from Duotone coming. In light wind I'm on the i99 wing. But as soon as the wind gets to 14mph+ I go to the i84. Planning on adding an i76 this spring.
I am 51 years old, 6'4" and 225.
Thanks for the information and please let us know how it behaves with the 9.3 .
I'm 214 pounds and more or less 235 with the dry suit ect , so I wondered what board sizes guys like me are using . I'm on a Wizard 150 and up to 5.8 it is fine but from 7.0 to 8.5 I think It could have slightly more volume .
Is there a good windfoil board review somewhere ?
Thanks .
I'm using a Levitator 160 with sails that range from 3.8 Sailworks revolution, 4.8 Duotone Super session, 6.0 and 7.0 Sailworks Flyer, and an 8.0 Ezzy Cheetah. ... i have a new 9.3 S-pace from Duotone coming. In light wind I'm on the i99 wing. But as soon as the wind gets to 14mph+ I go to the i84. Planning on adding an i76 this spring.
I am 51 years old, 6'4" and 225.
Thanks for the information and please let us know how it behaves with the 9.3 .
Will do... unfortunately Jason and Dan from Duotone/Fanatic don't think i will see the 9.3 until September.
Hi!
I gained some weight over the winter and am in the exact same class as you are. I used a Exocet Freefoil 132 and have recently changed to a Horse Tiny 130. I don't want any bigger board for windfoiling, as I am not a racer. I use/used Slingshot 76, Armstrong HS 1550 and hopefully soon the Moses 790. I do get wet feet when I uphill my sail, but as it is a watersport, I am fine with it. Both boards have enough lift and volume in the back that you can slug around with the frontfoot in the strap. I borrowed a Levitator 160 for a couple of weeks, but did not see any advantage over the smaller boards. The Slingshot board feels lighter than the Exocet, but the build-quality is not up to the price-tag.
BR, David
I'm 214 pounds and more or less 235 with the dry suit ect , so I wondered what board sizes guys like me are using . I'm on a Wizard 150 and up to 5.8 it is fine but from 7.0 to 8.5 I think It could have slightly more volume .
Is there a good windfoil board review somewhere ?
Thanks .
I'm using a Levitator 160 with sails that range from 3.8 Sailworks revolution, 4.8 Duotone Super session, 6.0 and 7.0 Sailworks Flyer, and an 8.0 Ezzy Cheetah. ... i have a new 9.3 S-pace from Duotone coming. In light wind I'm on the i99 wing. But as soon as the wind gets to 14mph+ I go to the i84. Planning on adding an i76 this spring.
I am 51 years old, 6'4" and 225.
I am 225 also using i99/48 backwing with Sailworks 6, 7 and 8.2 Flyer. Sailworks 8.2 gives me a good lift on 10-12 mph but I am not able to lift with 6.0 which is similar weight to Naish lift on light windy day .
I'm 214 pounds and more or less 235 with the dry suit ect , so I wondered what board sizes guys like me are using . I'm on a Wizard 150 and up to 5.8 it is fine but from 7.0 to 8.5 I think It could have slightly more volume .
Is there a good windfoil board review somewhere ?
Thanks .
I'm using a Levitator 160 with sails that range from 3.8 Sailworks revolution, 4.8 Duotone Super session, 6.0 and 7.0 Sailworks Flyer, and an 8.0 Ezzy Cheetah. ... i have a new 9.3 S-pace from Duotone coming. In light wind I'm on the i99 wing. But as soon as the wind gets to 14mph+ I go to the i84. Planning on adding an i76 this spring.
I am 51 years old, 6'4" and 225.
I am 225 also using i99/48 backwing with Sailworks 6, 7 and 8.2 Flyer. Sailworks 8.2 gives me a good lift on 10-12 mph but I am not able to lift with 6.0 which is similar weight to Naish lift on light windy day .
Hey SA
I have probably asked you this before, but have you tried the small 42 stabilizer? It should make it easier to get onto the foil.
I am lighter than you and the I could not get the 48 to work on the long fuse without insane back foot pressure.
I'm 214 pounds and more or less 235 with the dry suit ect , so I wondered what board sizes guys like me are using . I'm on a Wizard 150 and up to 5.8 it is fine but from 7.0 to 8.5 I think It could have slightly more volume .
Is there a good windfoil board review somewhere ?
Thanks .
I'm using a Levitator 160 with sails that range from 3.8 Sailworks revolution, 4.8 Duotone Super session, 6.0 and 7.0 Sailworks Flyer, and an 8.0 Ezzy Cheetah. ... i have a new 9.3 S-pace from Duotone coming. In light wind I'm on the i99 wing. But as soon as the wind gets to 14mph+ I go to the i84. Planning on adding an i76 this spring.
I am 51 years old, 6'4" and 225.
I am 225 also using i99/48 backwing with Sailworks 6, 7 and 8.2 Flyer. Sailworks 8.2 gives me a good lift on 10-12 mph but I am not able to lift with 6.0 which is similar weight to Naish lift on light windy day .
Hey SA
I have probably asked you this before, but have you tried the small 42 stabilizer? It should make it easier to get onto the foil.
I am lighter than you and the I could not get the 48 to work on the long fuse without insane back foot pressure.
I definitely feel 48 gives me much better lift and more stable than 42. 42 is better for jibing but I am not there yet fully.
I'm 214 pounds and more or less 235 with the dry suit ect , so I wondered what board sizes guys like me are using . I'm on a Wizard 150 and up to 5.8 it is fine but from 7.0 to 8.5 I think It could have slightly more volume .
Is there a good windfoil board review somewhere ?
Thanks .
I'm using a Levitator 160 with sails that range from 3.8 Sailworks revolution, 4.8 Duotone Super session, 6.0 and 7.0 Sailworks Flyer, and an 8.0 Ezzy Cheetah. ... i have a new 9.3 S-pace from Duotone coming. In light wind I'm on the i99 wing. But as soon as the wind gets to 14mph+ I go to the i84. Planning on adding an i76 this spring.
I am 51 years old, 6'4" and 225.
I am 225 also using i99/48 backwing with Sailworks 6, 7 and 8.2 Flyer. Sailworks 8.2 gives me a good lift on 10-12 mph but I am not able to lift with 6.0 which is similar weight to Naish lift on light windy day .
Hey SA
I have probably asked you this before, but have you tried the small 42 stabilizer? It should make it easier to get onto the foil.
I am lighter than you and the I could not get the 48 to work on the long fuse without insane back foot pressure.
I definitely feel 48 gives me much better lift and more stable than 42. 42 is better for jibing but I am not there yet fully.
OK ignore me if I ask you again. I have a bit of a vendetta against the 48 and the long fuse haha, but maybe its an upgrade for heavier riders.
I'm 214 pounds and more or less 235 with the dry suit ect , so I wondered what board sizes guys like me are using . I'm on a Wizard 150 and up to 5.8 it is fine but from 7.0 to 8.5 I think It could have slightly more volume .
Is there a good windfoil board review somewhere ?
Thanks .
I'm using a Levitator 160 with sails that range from 3.8 Sailworks revolution, 4.8 Duotone Super session, 6.0 and 7.0 Sailworks Flyer, and an 8.0 Ezzy Cheetah. ... i have a new 9.3 S-pace from Duotone coming. In light wind I'm on the i99 wing. But as soon as the wind gets to 14mph+ I go to the i84. Planning on adding an i76 this spring.
I am 51 years old, 6'4" and 225.
I am 225 also using i99/48 backwing with Sailworks 6, 7 and 8.2 Flyer. Sailworks 8.2 gives me a good lift on 10-12 mph but I am not able to lift with 6.0 which is similar weight to Naish lift on light windy day .
Hey SA
I have probably asked you this before, but have you tried the small 42 stabilizer? It should make it easier to get onto the foil.
I am lighter than you and the I could not get the 48 to work on the long fuse without insane back foot pressure.
I definitely feel 48 gives me much better lift and more stable than 42. 42 is better for jibing but I am not there yet fully.
OK ignore me if I ask you again. I have a bit of a vendetta against the 48 and the long fuse haha, but maybe its an upgrade for heavier riders.
I don't believe that anyone thinks your experiences are without merit. I've calculated neutral points with the I99/S48 at 5.5 inches from the leading edge of the wing and with the I99/S42 at 4.6 inches. And if you started in balance with the I99/S42 when you move to the I99/S48 you will have to weight your backfoot significantly.
The model I use is unsophisticated. It probably doesn't accurately give absolute numbers for the neutral points. But the relative number of an inch change in neutral point is believable and supports your experience. Below is a table of neutral points for different combinations of Slingshot wings and stabilizers. Hope this helps!

I'm 214 pounds and more or less 235 with the dry suit ect , so I wondered what board sizes guys like me are using . I'm on a Wizard 150 and up to 5.8 it is fine but from 7.0 to 8.5 I think It could have slightly more volume .
Is there a good windfoil board review somewhere ?
Thanks .
I'm using a Levitator 160 with sails that range from 3.8 Sailworks revolution, 4.8 Duotone Super session, 6.0 and 7.0 Sailworks Flyer, and an 8.0 Ezzy Cheetah. ... i have a new 9.3 S-pace from Duotone coming. In light wind I'm on the i99 wing. But as soon as the wind gets to 14mph+ I go to the i84. Planning on adding an i76 this spring.
I am 51 years old, 6'4" and 225.
I am 225 also using i99/48 backwing with Sailworks 6, 7 and 8.2 Flyer. Sailworks 8.2 gives me a good lift on 10-12 mph but I am not able to lift with 6.0 which is similar weight to Naish lift on light windy day .
Hey SA
I have probably asked you this before, but have you tried the small 42 stabilizer? It should make it easier to get onto the foil.
I am lighter than you and the I could not get the 48 to work on the long fuse without insane back foot pressure.
I definitely feel 48 gives me much better lift and more stable than 42. 42 is better for jibing but I am not there yet fully.
OK ignore me if I ask you again. I have a bit of a vendetta against the 48 and the long fuse haha, but maybe its an upgrade for heavier riders.
I don't believe that anyone thinks for experiences are without merit. I've calculated neutral points with the I99/S48 at 5.5 inches from the leading edge of the wing and with the I99/S42 at 4.6 inches. And if you started in balance with the I99/S42 when you move to the I99/S48 you will have to weight your backfoot significantly.
The model I use is unsophisticated. It probably doesn't accurately give absolute numbers for the neutral points. But the relative number of an inch change in neutral point is believable and supports your experience. Below is a table of neutral points for different combinations of Slingshot wings and stabilizers. Hope this helps!

Very nice table, you would not think that ~1 inch back with the 48 would make it near un-ridable for me.
This neutral point would stay stable at different speeds. Correct?
Have you done the math for the i65/S42?
I'm 214 pounds and more or less 235 with the dry suit ect , so I wondered what board sizes guys like me are using . I'm on a Wizard 150 and up to 5.8 it is fine but from 7.0 to 8.5 I think It could have slightly more volume .
Is there a good windfoil board review somewhere ?
Thanks .
I'm using a Levitator 160 with sails that range from 3.8 Sailworks revolution, 4.8 Duotone Super session, 6.0 and 7.0 Sailworks Flyer, and an 8.0 Ezzy Cheetah. ... i have a new 9.3 S-pace from Duotone coming. In light wind I'm on the i99 wing. But as soon as the wind gets to 14mph+ I go to the i84. Planning on adding an i76 this spring.
I am 51 years old, 6'4" and 225.
I am 225 also using i99/48 backwing with Sailworks 6, 7 and 8.2 Flyer. Sailworks 8.2 gives me a good lift on 10-12 mph but I am not able to lift with 6.0 which is similar weight to Naish lift on light windy day .
Hey SA
I have probably asked you this before, but have you tried the small 42 stabilizer? It should make it easier to get onto the foil.
I am lighter than you and the I could not get the 48 to work on the long fuse without insane back foot pressure.
I definitely feel 48 gives me much better lift and more stable than 42. 42 is better for jibing but I am not there yet fully.
OK ignore me if I ask you again. I have a bit of a vendetta against the 48 and the long fuse haha, but maybe its an upgrade for heavier riders.
I don't believe that anyone thinks for experiences are without merit. I've calculated neutral points with the I99/S48 at 5.5 inches from the leading edge of the wing and with the I99/S42 at 4.6 inches. And if you started in balance with the I99/S42 when you move to the I99/S48 you will have to weight your backfoot significantly.
The model I use is unsophisticated. It probably doesn't accurately give absolute numbers for the neutral points. But the relative number of an inch change in neutral point is believable and supports your experience. Below is a table of neutral points for different combinations of Slingshot wings and stabilizers. Hope this helps!

Very nice table, you would not think that ~1 inch back with the 48 would make it near un-ridable for me.
This neutral point would stay stable at different speeds. Correct?
Have you done the math for the i65/S42?
I can't answer you directly concerning the I99/S48 since I haven't purchased my I99 foil yet. However when I moved from the I84/S42 to the I84/S48 I went from a super heavy front foot to a more neutral stance. My experience is based on my foot straps position, mast position, boom height, rider stance etc... Which I'm sure are different from yours.
Wing and stab lift and drag increase with speed. I find myself putting more weight on the front foot as I increase in speed. I think what I'm doing is reducing the angle of attack. The calculation I use is a design rule of thumb. It's meant to give the designer/applications guy a feel for what an increase/decrease in wing/stab area or fuselage length will do to the balance of a foil/airplane.
I would need a wing leading edge to stab leading edge measurement to run the number. If you have an I65 foil, take a measurement and I will run the number.
I'm 214 pounds and more or less 235 with the dry suit ect , so I wondered what board sizes guys like me are using . I'm on a Wizard 150 and up to 5.8 it is fine but from 7.0 to 8.5 I think It could have slightly more volume .
Is there a good windfoil board review somewhere ?
Thanks .
I'm using a Levitator 160 with sails that range from 3.8 Sailworks revolution, 4.8 Duotone Super session, 6.0 and 7.0 Sailworks Flyer, and an 8.0 Ezzy Cheetah. ... i have a new 9.3 S-pace from Duotone coming. In light wind I'm on the i99 wing. But as soon as the wind gets to 14mph+ I go to the i84. Planning on adding an i76 this spring.
I am 51 years old, 6'4" and 225.
I am 225 also using i99/48 backwing with Sailworks 6, 7 and 8.2 Flyer. Sailworks 8.2 gives me a good lift on 10-12 mph but I am not able to lift with 6.0 which is similar weight to Naish lift on light windy day .
Hey SA
I have probably asked you this before, but have you tried the small 42 stabilizer? It should make it easier to get onto the foil.
I am lighter than you and the I could not get the 48 to work on the long fuse without insane back foot pressure.
I definitely feel 48 gives me much better lift and more stable than 42. 42 is better for jibing but I am not there yet fully.
OK ignore me if I ask you again. I have a bit of a vendetta against the 48 and the long fuse haha, but maybe its an upgrade for heavier riders.
I don't believe that anyone thinks for experiences are without merit. I've calculated neutral points with the I99/S48 at 5.5 inches from the leading edge of the wing and with the I99/S42 at 4.6 inches. And if you started in balance with the I99/S42 when you move to the I99/S48 you will have to weight your backfoot significantly.
The model I use is unsophisticated. It probably doesn't accurately give absolute numbers for the neutral points. But the relative number of an inch change in neutral point is believable and supports your experience. Below is a table of neutral points for different combinations of Slingshot wings and stabilizers. Hope this helps!

Very nice table, you would not think that ~1 inch back with the 48 would make it near un-ridable for me.
This neutral point would stay stable at different speeds. Correct?
Have you done the math for the i65/S42?
I can't answer you directly concerning the I99/S48 since I haven't purchased my I99 foil yet. However when I moved from the I84/S42 to the I84/S48 I went from a super heavy front foot to a more neutral stance. My experience is based on my foot straps position, mast position, boom height, rider stance etc... Which I'm sure are different from yours.
Wing and stab lift and drag increase with speed. I find myself putting more weight on the front foot as I increase in speed. I think what I'm doing is reducing the angle of attack. The calculation I use is a design rule of thumb. It's meant to give the designer/applications guy a feel for what an increase/decrease in wing/stab area or fuselage length will do to the balance of a foil/airplane.
I would need a wing leading edge to stab leading edge measurement to run the number. If you have an I65 foil, take a measurement and I will run the number.
Wing leading edge to stabilizer leading edge on the i65/42 is 78cm
The I65 S42 neutral point is at the bottom of the list.

Thanks
Hi Lake.
I did some additional math and calculated the distance of the neutral point from the first bolt for the foil mast to calculate how far forward of the foil mast the neutral point is.
With the 65 in C position the NP is 16.7cm forward of the foil mast bolt hole
With the 76 in C position the NP is 25.5cm forward of the foil mast bolt hole
With the 99 in B position the NP is 27.8cm forward of the foil mast bolt hole
You should probably check my numbers but I think suggests that speed plays a much greater role in how forward the lift is on the wing than the geometric neutral point, because I need to run the 99 in B position at least 10 cm forward of the 76 if all other factors are unchanged.
And I run the 76 and the 65 very close to the same position in the track.
I'm 6.2 and ~200 lbs. I'm on the 2nd season with my Levitator 160L. Very floaty and easy to haul up on. In light wind I'm on the i99 and a 6.8 (f-type). I can recommend the 160L Levitator - great board to learn on and for light wind conditions. Since this is my only foil board I use it in all conditions but I shift the wings (i99/i84/i76). I use these sails:
6.8 Duotone f-type
5.8 Duotone f-type
5.0 Severne Foil Glide
5.0 North SuperHero
4.0 North SuperHero
I would like to add a Wizard 125 for higher winds.
Hope that helps.
I'm 6.2 and ~200 lbs. I'm on the 2nd season with my Levitator 160L. Very floaty and easy to haul up on. In light wind I'm on the i99 and a 6.8 (f-type). I can recommend the 160L Levitator - great board to learn on and for light wind conditions. Since this is my only foil board I use it in all conditions but I shift the wings (i99/i84/i76). I use these sails:
6.8 Duotone f-type
5.8 Duotone f-type
5.0 Severne Foil Glide
5.0 North SuperHero
4.0 North SuperHero
I would like to add a Wizard 125 for higher winds.
Hope that helps.
Don't rule out the freestyle 115, for a second board. it matches up well with my Levi 150 as they both run track. You will need to swtich to tuttle mount for wizard. Also more overlap between the Levi 160 and Wiz 125.
Thank you for that comment. I hope I can try before I buy. How's the freestyle going upwind and how easy is it to haul up? We have a fair bit of chop and waves where I sail on the Chesapeake in Maryland.
Good point on the double track!
Thank you for that comment. I hope I can try before I buy. How's the freestyle going upwind and how easy is it to haul up? We have a fair bit of chop and waves where I sail on the Chesapeake in Maryland.
Good point on the double track!
The Freestyle 115 schlogs upwind great, on the foil it goes upwind as well as the foil/sail/wind combo allow. I think its easier to uphaul than the wizard 105 even though thinner, because the mast base is more in the middle of the board. I can tack it, but found tacking the 105 a challenge. The wizard 125 was easier to uphaul than both though.
Generally, when I use the FS 115 it is windy enough to just water start (usually hand on mast). On days when the wind has died, and I have been on the 115 the chop usually dies down so uphauling is easy enough. Typically, my FS115 sessions involve one uphaul schlog to the windline. Some version of water starting during the session and then sail home.
PS: you do need to be proficient at under-powered waterstarts, because if I can consistently easily waterstart then I probably have too much sail area
Thank you for that comment. I hope I can try before I buy. How's the freestyle going upwind and how easy is it to haul up? We have a fair bit of chop and waves where I sail on the Chesapeake in Maryland.
Good point on the double track!
Im 205 pounds, and I pretty much only use a 105L freeride foilboard board from 10 knots up these days. Its very doable, although it is a little sinky before you get up to speed. If you're athletic you should be able to slog / jibe / tack and even helitack these volumes. If there is enough wind to get a little speed slogging I can easily upahul this size too, but if its not enough to gain speed slogging its a real handful. If I do everything right and the board is completely still I'm about till above my ankles under water with the entire board, if I make a mistake its instantly knee deep, but I've found its quite managable due to the wide tail adding a huge lot of stability!
Mind you, if you're not athletic or used to riding small boards I'd very much advise a little more volume.
Try an Exocet-Original RF91, 160 litres. Nice board ![]()
Hi , is this board equipped with a TRUE DEEP TUTTLE ?
Do you know the weight of your board ?
Thanks .
Try an Exocet-Original RF91, 160 litres. Nice board ![]()
Hi , is this board equipped with a TRUE DEEP TUTTLE ?
Do you know the weight of your board ?
Thanks .
www.exocet-original.com/rf-foil-ast-c2x29553040
Yes, according to Exocet. "Deep Tuttle, Foil compatible". I have a "Slingshot Hoverglide" and previously had the "LP FRS Carbon" mounted. AST weight is about 10.5kg and Carbon is about 9.5 with straps.
Try an Exocet-Original RF91, 160 litres. Nice board ![]()
Hi , is this board equipped with a TRUE DEEP TUTTLE ?
Do you know the weight of your board ?
Thanks .
www.exocet-original.com/rf-foil-ast-c2x29553040
Yes, according to Exocet. "Deep Tuttle, Foil compatible". I have a "Slingshot Hoverglide" and previously had the "LP FRS Carbon" mounted. AST weight is about 10.5kg and Carbon is about 9.5 with straps.
Thanks for these infos .
If you are wanting to ease into this without spending a lot of money at the outset, you can use any old formula board. 95-100cm wide, 160 liters of float, strong deep tuttle finbox, light weight.
My limited-quiver one-board solution for when I visit my daughter in Florida is a formula board. Works fine.
Hi Segler , I listened to you and bought an old Formula , I just rode it this morning with an 8.5 sail and I am very impressed by this board , very happy thank you so much what a great idea . For the 8.5 sail 5 to 15 knots it is perfect . I understand the width is more important than the volume , I realized the board I had found was 145 liters instead of 160 and I ended up buying it anyway and I was right , 145 liters is big enough for me with this width .![]()
Guys I'm 125kgs and looking to get a foil board. Always want volume. Is it hard to get a 200 ltr race board to foil. My smallest windsurfer is a 167ltr superlight wind. Just worried when a foil is attached to a foil board I will need around the 200ltr mark which takes me to the race boards. TIA
Guys I'm 125kgs and looking to get a foil board. Always want volume. Is it hard to get a 200 ltr race board to foil. My smallest windsurfer is a 167ltr superlight wind. Just worried when a foil is attached to a foil board I will need around the 200ltr mark which takes me to the race boards. TIA
How do you get on with the 167 (uphaul and such)? The foil actually stabilizes things for most people as it acts like a keel in the stabilizing, not weight, sense.
Good, uphauled up to 9mtr cam. After that get unstable
Then you should be good with a foilboard around that size. If you have a good board shaper/repairer near by you could simply refit your current board witih a foil-ready box. Usually, we suggest that you could start out with that board even if not originally intended as a foil board but you'll be putting more stress on it than the avg sailor and I'd hesitate to recommend it to you.
You aren't likely to rig anything bigger than a 9 and likely start with something smaller from 6.0 or 7.5. Anything bigger than a 9.0 can be a PITA until you have a lot of experience. The added swing weight of the long boom complicates things.
Guys I'm 125kgs and looking to get a foil board. Always want volume. Is it hard to get a 200 ltr race board to foil. My smallest windsurfer is a 167ltr superlight wind. Just worried when a foil is attached to a foil board I will need around the 200ltr mark which takes me to the race boards. TIA
Some of the wide arse foil boards eg levitator, might be easier to uphaul than a slalom shape of similar volume because of where the volume is
Personally, I would find a used formula board around 175-200 liter that has a deep tuttle. Learn on it and if the box starts to go bad, replace the box with a foil approved box. You can bang the sh*** out of it and not feel too bad when something goes wrong. I would also put a protective guard on the front of the board. You can make one yourself or get one from Unifiber. I think converting an existing slalom board isn't the best idea is because of the width. Having 85cm plus width would be good. I don't know the dimensions of your existing board. The new ones from JP would be perfect.