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2020 Severne Foilglide 7m - First Sail

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Created by swoosh > 9 months ago, 1 Aug 2020
Subsonic
WA, 3354 posts
5 Dec 2020 8:00AM
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NicoDC said.. The foil glide 2 with an extra cam an batten would be perfect for me, but I guess it won't get released soon.


the three cam foilglide is hitting the shelves now. I guess it depends on where you are as to availability with covid etc. but you should see them reasonably soon.

Swindy
WA, 456 posts
5 Dec 2020 8:33AM
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Got my 7.0 FG 2 and Alien 145 straight out of the container and in to my van this week. I even helped unload the container. I've used the board but not the sail yet.

Subsonic
WA, 3354 posts
5 Dec 2020 8:38AM
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Swindy said..
Got my 7.0 FG 2 and Alien 145 straight out of the container and in to my van this week. I even helped unload the container. I've used the board but not the sail yet.



Safest time to visit the shop when its full of boxes. You can't see anything, so the bank account doesn't cop a hammering.

NicoDC
222 posts
5 Dec 2020 4:04PM
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Looking forward to see it here in Europe ??
So far I can't even find the specs except for the number of cams and battens.
Please let me know how it feels on the water!

Swindy
WA, 456 posts
5 Dec 2020 7:33PM
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NicoDC said..
Looking forward to see it here in Europe ??
So far I can't even find the specs except for the number of cams and battens.
Please let me know how it feels on the water!


Will do, wind looks a bit lighter next week so should get to use it.

Swindy
WA, 456 posts
7 Dec 2020 12:19PM
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First rig of my 7m FG2.
Rigged on a 460 ezzy rdm as I couldn't afford a new mast too but looks darn good to me. The mast slid all the way up the sail with ease and then I came to a bit of a problem. The end of the rope on my extension was slightly frayed and by the time I had managed to squeeze it through the first two pulleys it had frayed some more and I couldn't get it through the last. With about 2/3 downhaul applied the cams popped on effortlessly.
Even with only two pulleys threaded full downhaul was easily achieved which gives a slight loose leach to the top two panels.
With the boom set to spec and the outhaul neutral there is about 3cm gap for a bit of positive if you need it. With the battens tensions there is hardly a wrinkle in the sail and seems to rotate beautifully. After a few uses I may end up with a Cam spacer or two in the lower 2 cams.
Might get to use it tomorrow.
















Seewasser
8 posts
7 Dec 2020 3:15PM
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Swindy said..
"... then I came to a bit of a problem. The end of the rope on my extension was slightly frayed and by the time I had managed to squeeze it through the first two pulleys it had frayed some more and I couldn't get it through the last."

Same Problem with 7.0 Foilglide I. Space above pulley is just too narrow. Inserting the rope is always very tricky. Just not enough space between pulleys and metal clip above. Eben with original dynamea rope delevered with severne extension.

Apart from this minor restriction I love the Foilglide. Great sail for foiling.

Swindy
WA, 456 posts
7 Dec 2020 4:43PM
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Seewasser said..

Swindy said..
"... then I came to a bit of a problem. The end of the rope on my extension was slightly frayed and by the time I had managed to squeeze it through the first two pulleys it had frayed some more and I couldn't get it through the last."

Same Problem with 7.0 Foilglide I. Space above pulley is just too narrow. Inserting the rope is always very tricky. Just not enough space between pulleys and metal clip above. Eben with original dynamea rope delevered with severne extension.

Apart from this minor restriction I love the Foilglide. Great sail for foiling.



I will cut my rope at 45deg and put a bit of super glue on the end, should help to thread it a bit easier.

NicoDC
222 posts
7 Dec 2020 6:17PM
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Swindy said..
First rig of my 7m FG2.
Rigged on a 460 ezzy rdm as I couldn't afford a new mast too but looks darn good to me. The mast slid all the way up the sail with ease and then I came to a bit of a problem. The end of the rope on my extension was slightly frayed and by the time I had managed to squeeze it through the first two pulleys it had frayed some more and I couldn't get it through the last. With about 2/3 downhaul applied the cams popped on effortlessly.
Even with only two pulleys threaded full downhaul was easily achieved which gives a slight loose leach to the top two panels.
With the boom set to spec and the outhaul neutral there is about 3cm gap for a bit of positive if you need it. With the battens tensions there is hardly a wrinkle in the sail and seems to rotate beautifully. After a few uses I may end up with a Cam spacer or two in the lower 2 cams.
Might get to use it tomorrow.

















I can sense the smell of that new sail

swoosh
QLD, 1928 posts
7 Dec 2020 8:58PM
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Frayed end of the downhaul rope has gotta be one of my windsurfing pet peeves

Foiler69er
60 posts
8 Dec 2020 12:56AM
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Swindy said..
First rig of my 7m FG2.
Rigged on a 460 ezzy rdm as I couldn't afford a new mast too but looks darn good to me. The mast slid all the way up the sail with ease and then I came to a bit of a problem. The end of the rope on my extension was slightly frayed and by the time I had managed to squeeze it through the first two pulleys it had frayed some more and I couldn't get it through the last. With about 2/3 downhaul applied the cams popped on effortlessly.
Even with only two pulleys threaded full downhaul was easily achieved which gives a slight loose leach to the top two panels.
With the boom set to spec and the outhaul neutral there is about 3cm gap for a bit of positive if you need it. With the battens tensions there is hardly a wrinkle in the sail and seems to rotate beautifully. After a few uses I may end up with a Cam spacer or two in the lower 2 cams.
Might get to use it tomorrow.

















Sweet! I was lucky enough to get a Severne FGO 7.0 (which is the same as the FG2 but used for the junior IQFoil setup).
I have about 4 sessions with it already and I like it a lot. I'm hoping to get the FG2 6 and 8 when they get there to the east coast of the US.
It is easy to rig and rig down. I also find it easy to pump - very excited about this sail.







BioniSurf
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8 Dec 2020 6:55AM
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Swindy said..
Got my 7.0 FG 2 and Alien 145 straight out of the container and in to my van this week. I even helped unload the container. I've used the board but not the sail yet.



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Swindy said..
Got my 7.0 FG 2 and Alien 145 straight out of the container and in to my van this week. I even helped unload the container. I've used the board but not the sail yet.



A few pics and a small review of the alien 145 would be very appreciated :)

swoosh
QLD, 1928 posts
8 Dec 2020 9:55AM
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The little bit of xply on the foot of the FGO 7.0 is nice. Maybe angle of photo as well but it does seem like the foot batten is slightly shorter?

I personally would prefer the FGO 7.0 over the FG 7.0 based on that observation, just for more durable foot construction, and slightly shorter foot batten if it is indeed the case. The ease of use and durability would be a positive over the last 0.5% of performance.

Sandman1221
2776 posts
8 Dec 2020 8:34AM
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I only buy sails that are 100% grid! no monofilm, Aerotech makes a foil sail AeroFoil with two cams and 100% grid. But right now I am happy with my FreeSpeed sails for foiling.

Foiler69er
60 posts
8 Dec 2020 9:07AM
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swoosh said..
The little bit of xply on the foot of the FGO 7.0 is nice. Maybe angle of photo as well but it does seem like the foot batten is slightly shorter?

I personally would prefer the FGO 7.0 over the FG 7.0 based on that observation, just for more durable foot construction, and slightly shorter foot batten if it is indeed the case. The ease of use and durability would be a positive over the last 0.5% of performance.


Good observations. I took a few more pictures and it does look like the batten is longer on the FG2









Searoamer
NSW, 297 posts
13 Jan 2021 7:52AM
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Does the FG2 7.0 have RDM cams as standard? still no info on Severne site....

regal1
NSW, 445 posts
13 Jan 2021 8:43AM
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Yes, 3 of them.

Swindy
WA, 456 posts
13 Jan 2021 5:54AM
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Peter Hands said..
Does the FG2 7.0 have RDM cams as standard? still no info on Severne site....


Yes.
I don't think you will see anything on the website untill its official release in Europe next month.
Still haven't used mine yet as its been too windy in WA, should get a lot of use in autumn though.

Foiler69er
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13 Jan 2021 6:07AM
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Peter Hands said..
Does the FG2 7.0 have RDM cams as standard? still no info on Severne site....


Yes - 3 RDM.
Great sail - I have 7-10 sessions on it.

Searoamer
NSW, 297 posts
13 Jan 2021 11:18AM
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Thanks!

svenk
15 posts
1 Feb 2021 8:09PM
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Finally got the specs for Foilglide2 8.0
Luff 494
Boom 207
6 battens
Weight 4.65kg

sdberlin
2 posts
2 Feb 2021 3:12AM
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Thank you.
Do you know if a 490 SDM will fits also?
I have ordered a sail blind in December.
Best regards
Stefan

PatK
321 posts
2 Feb 2021 3:27AM
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Its online
www.severnesails.com/sails/foil-glide/

cleverku
VIC, 52 posts
17 Feb 2021 2:28PM
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I'm toying with the idea of getting the FoilGlide2 7m. I already have a 460 mast so it would just be the cost of the sail.

Severne Gators (4.5, 5.5,6, 6.5) currently make up my quiver and I've fairly new to foiling (5 sessions in). I'm hoping to find a sail to help get TOW on the foil in light wind condition (8 to 15 knots). My technique is likely a big part of the problem but I'm finding it difficult to get up on the foil consistently in less than 15 knots even on my 6.5 so I'm hoping a foil specific sail with cams in 7m will help.

Any thoughts on this and whether this is money well spent. I'm hoping to make this my last sail purchase for a while.

I'm also curious to know how a 6m Gator would compare to 6m FoilGlide2. I've never sailed a cam sail so unsure how they differ.

regal1
NSW, 445 posts
17 Feb 2021 3:16PM
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I bought the foilglide 2 7.0 as a high wind sail. IMO, it doesn't pump at all well compared to say a hyperglide 8m on an SDM/mdm mast. When I pump the fg2 7, the 460 rdm sags off and then comes back slowly. It doesn't snap back. Still, with the 3 cams it's a very light sail, feels silky smooth & the leech doesn't flutter like the original fg. It's a very nice sail in the hand & a delight to use. Should be usable from 12kn & up but you're going to have to pump to get flying. Never sailed the gator.

cleverku
VIC, 52 posts
17 Feb 2021 4:02PM
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I bought the foilglide 2 7.0 as a high wind sail. IMO, it doesn't pump at all well compared to say a hyperglide 8m on an SDM/mdm mast. When I pump the fg2 7, the 460 rdm sags off and then comes back slowly. It doesn't snap back. Still, with the 3 cams it's a very light sail, feels silky smooth & the leech doesn't flutter like the original fg. It's a very nice sail in the hand & a delight to use. Should be usable from 12kn & up but you're going to have to pump to get flying. Never sailed the gator.



Thanks for the reply regal1.

What you would you guys recommend doing to get more TOW in the lighter stuff given my existing quiver and without going crazy spending a fortune?

Options I'm considering:
- Buy a new FG2 7m: $1250
- Buy a new FG2 8m: $1250+
- Buy one or two 2nd hand non-foil specific >7m sails for $400+ each. (Overdrive Mach 2, Turbo GT, R8, NCX)
- Hyperglide sail options...

For the last two options I've got no idea what I'm doing and really unsure of the differences in these sails and how well they would be suited to foiling and my level of skill (beginner on foil, rusty returning windsurfer after 20+ years away from the sport).

Gear I currently have:
Foiling:
- Fanatic Stingray 140L
- Fanatic Flow 1500 foil

Sails:
- Severn Gators (4.5, 5.5, 6, 6.5)

Fin Board: Starboard AIR Freewave 103L

EDIT: I'm not looking to get into any racing. Just want to get out on the water when time permits and blast around.

Searoamer
NSW, 297 posts
17 Feb 2021 5:56PM
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How much do you weigh?
I have used Turbo 8.1 for foiling, works well - much better than other 2hand options in your list IMHO

che66er
17 posts
17 Feb 2021 3:23PM
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cleverku said..

regal1 said..
I bought the foilglide 2 7.0 as a high wind sail. IMO, it doesn't pump at all well compared to say a hyperglide 8m on an SDM/mdm mast. When I pump the fg2 7, the 460 rdm sags off and then comes back slowly. It doesn't snap back. Still, with the 3 cams it's a very light sail, feels silky smooth & the leech doesn't flutter like the original fg. It's a very nice sail in the hand & a delight to use. Should be usable from 12kn & up but you're going to have to pump to get flying. Never sailed the gator.




Thanks for the reply regal1.

What you would you guys recommend doing to get more TOW in the lighter stuff given my existing quiver and without going crazy spending a fortune?

Options I'm considering:
- Buy a new FG2 7m: $1250
- Buy a new FG2 8m: $1250+
- Buy one or two 2nd hand non-foil specific >7m sails for $400+ each. (Overdrive Mach 2, Turbo GT, R8, NCX)
- Hyperglide sail options...

For the last two options I've got no idea what I'm doing and really unsure of the differences in these sails and how well they would be suited to foiling and my level of skill (beginner on foil, rusty returning windsurfer after 20+ years away from the sport).

Gear I currently have:
Foiling:
- Fanatic Stingray 140L
- Fanatic Flow 1500 foil

Sails:
- Severn Gators (4.5, 5.5, 6, 6.5)

Fin Board: Starboard AIR Freewave 103L

EDIT: I'm not looking to get into any racing. Just want to get out on the water when time permits and blast around.


The old 7.0 FG (2020) will definitely increase the TOW in your case and will fit your needs as you dont want to race. The Sail works well in light wind, but has its limits at around 12/13 knts (beaufort 4). But then you should be ok with the gators 5.5-6.5 you have.

I guess, the windrange should be wider with the new FG 2021 with 5 battens/3cams, what I think is a big benefit. Considering your 1500wing, i'd go for FG 7.0.

For me personally I keep the (old) 7.0 for the light winds, but got now a FGO 6.0 (nearly identical to FGII 2021) for 13 knts and more. Smaller, wider wind Range cuz of the extra batten/extra cam and it is rigged on the same mast as the 7.0, thats great.

swoosh
QLD, 1928 posts
17 Feb 2021 6:37PM
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For reference, I ran, the 7m foilglide1, and with the Flow 1000 foil, and I was happy from <10kts to about 15kts and I weigh 80kg. I personally wouldn't want to carry the 7m much over 15kts. The shape (cams) on the foilglide, will make it feel heavier in the hand then a no-cam, but will also pull you onto the foil without as much pumping.

Based on your equipment, gear and sailing style, I think a 7m foilglide would be perfect unless you are like 90kg+ in which case maybe you would want to consider the bigger sail.

You could slim your quiver down to 7m foilglide (12-15kts), 5.5m gator (14-18kts) and 4.5m gator (16-20kts+). And you will gain another 2-3kts off the bottom end of the wind range once you find your pumping groove.

Swindy
WA, 456 posts
17 Feb 2021 5:39PM
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Had my proper first go on my FG2 7m on Monday. I'm 100kg ATM. Wind started at 13-16 . I had applied Max downhaul as I was expecting it to pick up and had it set with -3 CM outhaul. Pumped up easily at 13kn and no pumping required at 16kn. It soon picked up 16-20 and became a bit of a hand full until I gave it Max outhaul. Though well powered up it behaved really well until some of the gusts edged just over 20 and it became a bit back handed. Even though it's not a race sail it's no slouch, even in my modest hands with the SB GTR got a top 2s of 25.7kn. Probably not the kind of foiling it was aimed at but does it quite well.



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