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Created by Legion > 9 months ago, 24 Mar 2014
Legion
WA, 2222 posts
24 Mar 2014 11:29AM
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Forgive me in advance for naming spots, but this is pretty serious ****.

http://www.wanneroo.wa.gov.au/Planning/Temporary_Closure_of_Dewars_Beach_Access_Track

Crazyhrz
WA, 14 posts
24 Mar 2014 11:33AM
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Nooooooooooooooooo!!!

Kevinq
WA, 3 posts
24 Mar 2014 1:21PM
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Spoke to the rangers who were posted at the main track entrance yesterday, they said most of what was outlined in post above basically saying it was too dangerous ,implied that it was down to a few reckless drivers, they also said that if I could find another entrance that was open I could use it but were not offering any suggestions only ask in the local cafe for info.
It wil be unfortunate if the track is closed permanently , but it will be a good warm up jogging up the beach from the road in winter

Legion
WA, 2222 posts
24 Mar 2014 1:43PM
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The only way into the area will be from another shire, much further drive. I reckon if you stray into Wanneroo shire you could be fined.

Internet chatter implies it's a precursor to them finally developing the area and the pictures I've seen indicate a couple of new homeowners will be overlooking the break. Nothing to do with danger, just to try to keep people out while they develop. Some rumours suggest infrastructure work has started.

What this effectively means is much heavier crowd pressure on the other well known break in the area and probably makes it less worthwhile heading that way. OTOH it could mean rewards for those willing to run up the beach, yes. But it's not a trivial distance.

jbshack
WA, 6913 posts
24 Mar 2014 2:24PM
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Kevinq said..

Spoke to the rangers who were posted at the main track entrance yesterday, they said most of what was outlined in post above basically saying it was too dangerous ,implied that it was down to a few reckless drivers, they also said that if I could find another entrance that was open I could use it but were not offering any suggestions only ask in the local cafe for info.
It wil be unfortunate if the track is closed permanently , but it will be a good warm up jogging up the beach from the road in winter


There has been a few accidents on the beach heading south back from Deers i was told. There has also been a lot of upkeep on the road as it gets cut up and they suggested it was not in their budget to keep fixing it up. If they leave it they are responsible for constant up keep so the cheapest option is to close it

I doubt it will be developed for decades..Also isn't the land to Eastern side still private property

Kneeling
WA, 166 posts
24 Mar 2014 2:31PM
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Got any small tinnies in there jb might be the go,drop in at the marina zip up the coast crowds might get smaller i hope

jbshack
WA, 6913 posts
24 Mar 2014 2:38PM
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Kneeling said..

Got any small tinnies in there jb might be the go,drop in at the marina zip up the coast crowds might get smaller i hope


Its a long way from Mindarie..Two rocks is still closed..

jbenny
WA, 12 posts
24 Mar 2014 3:42PM
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The only reason there's that much traffic on the track is cause they've taken away all the 4 wheel drive tracks down marmion, now there gonna do this with the solution of
"The community is advised to use alternative locations such as 'The Spot"
So instead of 30+ there will be 50+,
Over development is killing it,

Souwester
WA, 1266 posts
24 Mar 2014 4:16PM
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Bugger me its gone full circle, keen enough people will be walking in, camping in the dunes under the radar (so as to not get caught as that's most prob illegal as well) and scoring uncrowded/less crowded waves at first light.

Could get a feed of fish after a surf, return to the camouflaged camp and have a cook up and nanna nap then hit the arvo session..

DJMWA
WA, 345 posts
24 Mar 2014 4:35PM
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jbshack said...
Kevinq said..

Spoke to the rangers who were posted at the main track entrance yesterday, they said most of what was outlined in post above basically saying it was too dangerous ,implied that it was down to a few reckless drivers, they also said that if I could find another entrance that was open I could use it but were not offering any suggestions only ask in the local cafe for info.
It wil be unfortunate if the track is closed permanently , but it will be a good warm up jogging up the beach from the road in winter


There has been a few accidents on the beach heading south back from Deers i was told. There has also been a lot of upkeep on the road as it gets cut up and they suggested it was not in their budget to keep fixing it up. If they leave it they are responsible for constant up keep so the cheapest option is to close it

I doubt it will be developed for decades..Also isn't the land to Eastern side still private property


They spent quite a bit of time on it during winter and then within 3 days crew had managed to bush bash their way around the rocks to access their "shortcuts" to go further north.

Not surprised they are closing it really. Happened around 8 years ago too remember?

LateStarter
WA, 589 posts
24 Mar 2014 5:25PM
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Not a major deal, as the walk will keep most crowds at bay, not to mention the lineup will be SUP and log free!


mocha1
WA, 934 posts
24 Mar 2014 5:30PM
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Wasn't it shut down a few (quite a few) years back because of unexploded ordinance and the owners of the land (Japanese company) couldn't stand the thought of poor surfers being blown up - read didn't want to pay insurance/compo for anything happening on their land......or was that just a Chinese whisper??????

quirkus
WA, 322 posts
24 Mar 2014 5:42PM
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They've done it before.

My understanding is, it is legal to drive in from another entrance, although admittedly a bit more painful.
They are definately chewing up the tracks though , and there are some crazy drivers thrashing through the area.

I spoke to a 4WD trainer who uses the area to 'responsibly train' 4wd'rs and says its getting pretty dangerous.
The other issue is that users of the area are leaving a lot of rubbish in there. The old case of minority screwing it up for the others.

Its a wake up call for everyone using the area, that whatever you take in, you take home. They've got a couple of seriously ' very local' scouts who are starting to report back to various departments on misuse and littering offenders, with photos and number plates,, with hell fines to pay,,,, so take care..

The reason for the rocks across the other entrance was that it was causing dangerous conditions for 4wd's coming and going due to the proximity of the bend in the road just before that and short visibility. The other entrance is not far away.

ps let your tyres down, keep a safe speed, and be good to the local scouts.

quirkus
WA, 322 posts
24 Mar 2014 5:49PM
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There goes the last of the secret spots in the city limits,, but you might need some serious 4wd recovery gear, and the number of the local recovery guy.

Poida
WA, 1922 posts
24 Mar 2014 6:38PM
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i remember the last few times this was done over the years. A basic limestone track and fencing would be a better way to go, similar to the spot, not that it will stop the hoons.
hope no one breaks their leg in the surf, cause it would be a nightmare dragging yourself back to a car at two rocks

smicko
WA, 2503 posts
24 Mar 2014 7:35PM
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I'd be careful coming in from other entrances, if you check the city of Wanneroo boundary it extends well North of Dewars, so they will be able to enforce fines at will.

jbshack
WA, 6913 posts
24 Mar 2014 8:40PM
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Why do you need to donate money to sign the petition

Boothie88
161 posts
24 Mar 2014 9:13PM
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You dont, still records your signature, just wants you to donate afterwards.

Legion
WA, 2222 posts
24 Mar 2014 9:33PM
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Not sure where this comes from, whether it's photoshop or actual planning concept, or anything else. But I found it interesting.



Legion
WA, 2222 posts
24 Mar 2014 9:44PM
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The block sizes are all wrong but it's the sort of thing I could imagine in a glossy brochure looking for investors.

beastsurf
WA, 902 posts
24 Mar 2014 10:40PM
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Yep remember secret harbour. they bloked the beach access blocked the tracks then they built a big bloody suburb. same thing up at deers

DJMWA
WA, 345 posts
24 Mar 2014 11:02PM
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Legion said..

Not sure where this comes from, whether it's photoshop or actual planning concept, or anything else. But I found it interesting.





A lot of the civil works has already started for the immediate sections north of Breakwater dve. So I don't think that plan would be too far off the mark.

smicko
WA, 2503 posts
24 Mar 2014 11:25PM
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It'll be just like Tom's but might actually have the odd wave.

oz surf
WA, 407 posts
24 Mar 2014 11:51PM
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Is everyone spelling the place wrong or is it just me. I have always called it Derrs

smicko
WA, 2503 posts
25 Mar 2014 12:15AM
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Derrs is an aberration of Dewars which is actually the name of the onshore reef system that starts about half a k north of Durrs, Derrs etc. Named after one of the areas pioneering fishing families if I recall correctly.

Ssssshhhhhhh secret spot.

jbshack
WA, 6913 posts
25 Mar 2014 9:22AM
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beastsurf said..

Yep remember secret harbour. they bloked the beach access blocked the tracks then they built a big bloody suburb. same thing up at deers


Yeah but secret harbour had been on the papers for decades to be built on. But yes i agree it happened so fast once they kicked us out of dunes

The entire development in this Northern corridor is just crazy. Especially as they really have done nothing to help move traffic. For me to get out of Mindarie to Joondalup now in traffic, i can ride a bike faster. In another ten years what then..

DARTH
WA, 3028 posts
25 Mar 2014 9:46AM
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smicko said..

Derrs is an aberration of Dewars which is actually the name of the onshore reef system that starts about half a k north of Durrs, Derrs etc. Named after one of the areas pioneering fishing families if I recall correctly.

Ssssshhhhhhh secret spot.


Was

TimKay
752 posts
25 Mar 2014 12:18PM
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It's been all over ABC radio this morning
Apparently another discussion with the CEO of Wanneroo council tomorrow morning on the radio
Should be interesting

mazdon
1198 posts
25 Mar 2014 12:24PM
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is it all part of this:
www.breakwaterestate.com.au/

might explain the block sizes on your picture legion.
1 hectare blocks are pretty big!

MickPC
8266 posts
25 Mar 2014 4:19PM
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THat is sad to hear. Amazed its taken this long though, they've been talking about it since the early 90's.



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