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Created by LateStarter > 9 months ago, 12 Mar 2015
Hausey
NSW, 325 posts
15 Mar 2015 11:43PM
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Heard that they actually had to run a whole lot of electricity and communication lines over the hill - which took time and money - which they actually did - though by the time they did it .....

It was too late and by then Snapper was going to get the conditions anyway to finish it!?

beastsurf
WA, 902 posts
15 Mar 2015 9:41PM
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The first comp had some probs but I'm glad it's on. I never had much time for comps or pro surfing until it hit the Tele. I love it now. It's a bit like a test match ever changing over a few days, dramas such as the champ making a complete goose of himself on live Tele. What a tosser. Can't wait for bells.

thedrip
WA, 2355 posts
15 Mar 2015 10:08PM
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Its our turn soon. Lucky us. Can we keep the professionals on the East coast?

Please...

Pretty pretty please....

beastsurf
WA, 902 posts
15 Mar 2015 11:44PM
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Cmon drip! Might be nice to the pros get smashed by some 15 foot Margs bombs Hey. Every cloud has a silver lining.

jbshack
WA, 6913 posts
16 Mar 2015 10:21AM
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Ctngoodvibes said..



chrispy said...



Razzonater said..
moving snapper to dbah would of been easy its a kilometre away, fully easy lgitimate solution, dbah may be one state away but its closer than burleigh and currumbin. its probably closer than kirra to be honest....im not sure how much the government puts in to these events,however judging by the amount of people in the area i reckon they got a fair return along with all the local buisnesses. people would still be spending their money within a kilometre of where the comp was held and i dont think anyone could say they had missed out.. id definatly say surfing would of gained, the viewer would of gained and the sponsers would of gained. i know snapper has an ampitheatre but i reckon you would get a pretty good view of dbah, off the beach,rockwall,top carpark,hill outside the surfclub etc etc
im still calling dbahgate.






pffft.....you just don't get it...its about money,,,i don't know how explain it any more ...**** even the stupid kid next door understands...how about moving all your major sporting/music festivals to the east coast...its just ****ing stupid....like your reply





They have held it at dbah in previous years so not sure why an issue now?
Everyone thinks of dbah as on the goldy anyway




Although i don't agree with Chrispys aggressive/annoyed tone, he is correct in saying it would have never happened at Dbah. QLD government did pay a substantial amount to the organisers. For them to move the event onto NSW soil just was not a viable possibility, both technically, emotively and i think legally

My issue i have is the same as Raz. The adds non stop online, the product placement is getting crazy. Yes i understand its a business, they are there to sell products but it does seem to have taken a step further down the business model and less about the surfing model.

Not much can be done if the surf is crap. The window was long enough, this year they were just unlucky. I watched the kids yesterday at Trigg point deal with absolute wind blown crap. Its just how our sport can go sometimes..

TimKay
752 posts
16 Mar 2015 2:09PM
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I did not though that the tour wasn't allowed to go to D'bah
I always thought it was a backup venue.
So it's a case of run it at Snapper or cancel

markferdi
WA, 18 posts
16 Mar 2015 2:50PM
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I thought in previous years like 2009 Dbah was used!

jbshack
WA, 6913 posts
16 Mar 2015 4:15PM
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I thought in previous years like 2009 Dbah was used!


It may very well have been in previous years. Possibly the QLD government hasn't contributed those years, or they had a better working relationship between States..


KEARNSY
WA, 1322 posts
16 Mar 2015 4:33PM
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DJMWA said...


Best. Interview. Ever

Then Freddy P basically caught nothing in his heat and threw a tanty and ollied into a rock on the way in. Epic



Gabby sounds as drunk as a skunk in that interview...bizarre


Typical Brazo arrogance right there folks. Someone give that kid a hug. Stop crying Medina

smicko
WA, 2503 posts
16 Mar 2015 8:47PM
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Couple of years back I was loving the webcasts but it all seems to have become a bit of a spank lately. To my mind it all comes down to the dollar, when the circuit was funded by surfing companies the content was built for surfers, now it's funded by multinational telcoms they (arguably so) want their pound of flesh and the content has suffered accordingly.

Unfortunately the global downturn has seen those surfing companies bleeding coin and they just can't sell enough $200 pairs of boardies to keep the whole shebang afloat. Probably doesn't help that tightwads like me are content with $10 boardies from best and less.

Personally I wouldn't be too upset to see the ship sink. Might mean less easily influenced kooks attracted to the fold and if the circus continues down its current path it's not one I want tickets to at any rate.

Start bailing WSL.

Ctngoodvibes
WA, 1404 posts
17 Mar 2015 8:02AM
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I don't get it?
Why wouldn't ya want to see the worlds best surfers surfing live all over the world. I agree some of the commentary is annoying but if ya hate it that much just turn the sound off and use the heat analyser. Looking forward to bells and margs leg this year hope they get some decent swell.

Razzonater
2224 posts
17 Mar 2015 9:20AM
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Ctngoodvibes said...
I don't get it?
Why wouldn't ya want to see the worlds best surfers surfing live all over the world. I agree some of the commentary is annoying but if ya hate it that much just turn the sound off and use the heat analyser. Looking forward to bells and margs leg this year hope they get some decent swell.


maybe i fired from the hip a bit early....... i do want to watch it and in fact im stoked that i can, i just want it to be held in good/epic waves where the worlds best surf good waves. With the amount of money invested and made by all parties involved it has to be only beneficial to everyone to wait for pumping waves
Disclaimer: I bet a minimum/maximum of 50 bucks on heats throughout the event I cannot bet against the aussie lads even if i know they will lose.
disclaimer: aussies very rarely lose heats when snapper is 4-6 foot
(if you do footy tipping you will understand, i pity st kilda supporters for this very reason

Dazzler75
QLD, 458 posts
17 Mar 2015 12:27PM
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I would love to see Margs 4 times+ overhead - I mean properbly big - & clean as a whistle.

No going right or shifting to the Box as I found that a bit repetitive & hard to judge from a competition point of view. Just good old fashion big Mainbreak lining up to the Rivermouth al-la Curren.

It would be interesting to see how the Top 34 go in those conditions, I'm sure they would rip given the right boards - but how many of them would have them in the board bag. I'd be backing JJF & Mick in conditions like that.

Legion
WA, 2222 posts
17 Mar 2015 10:43AM
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bjshack said..
(Chrispys) correct in saying it would have never happened at Dbah. QLD government did pay a substantial amount to the organisers. For them to move the event onto NSW soil just was not a viable possibility, both technically, emotively and i think legally


Were did you get the info from

jbshack
WA, 6913 posts
17 Mar 2015 4:59PM
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Legion said..

bjshack said..
(Chrispys) correct in saying it would have never happened at Dbah. QLD government did pay a substantial amount to the organisers. For them to move the event onto NSW soil just was not a viable possibility, both technically, emotively and i think legally



Were did you get the info from


The simple fact is that Dbah is in NSW. Not Qld, even though right next door. These type of events need to have some rather serous contracts drawn up between sponsors, councils and the organisers and media may have talked it up (moving it as an option) but i don't believe it would have happened. It would be like the Cottesloe council sponsoring and having a event like the Sculptures by the sea but then it actually being set up at Trigg beach. Why would one council pay for another to benefit. The QLD government had sponsored the comp and wanted the event run on QLD soil and thats why they extended the waiting period instead of moving..

But saying that there was lots of right ups and quotes from people regarding the move and the legality/viability..

jbshack
WA, 6913 posts
17 Mar 2015 5:31PM
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Cuttlefish said..
There you go...A Brazzo...and current world champion doesn't understand the rules.
Kind of makes sense out of the behaviour of his fellow countrymen in the water sometimes.


He might not know the rules, but he is happy to sell product at any cost

www.tracksmag.com.au/video/gabriel-medina-teaches-you-how-to-shave-your-chest--425781

For the record if somehow i was the world champ and sponsored by Gillette, id shave my chest for a series of ($$$) commercials, but id have a cute bikini clad lady assist me

Macaha
QLD, 21976 posts
17 Mar 2015 9:17PM
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jbshack said..

Legion said..


bjshack said..
(Chrispys) correct in saying it would have never happened at Dbah. QLD government did pay a substantial amount to the organisers. For them to move the event onto NSW soil just was not a viable possibility, both technically, emotively and i think legally




Were did you get the info from



The simple fact is that Dbah is in NSW. Not Qld, even though right next door. These type of events need to have some rather serous contracts drawn up between sponsors, councils and the organisers and media may have talked it up (moving it as an option) but i don't believe it would have happened. It would be like the Cottesloe council sponsoring and having a event like the Sculptures by the sea but then it actually being set up at Trigg beach. Why would one council pay for another to benefit. The QLD government had sponsored the comp and wanted the event run on QLD soil and thats why they extended the waiting period instead of moving..

But saying that there was lots of right ups and quotes from people regarding the move and the legality/viability..


About three years ago they set up 2 comp sites one at snapper the other at d-bah and had two small sites set up at Greenmount and Kirra.

jbshack
WA, 6913 posts
17 Mar 2015 8:04PM
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Macaha said..

jbshack said..


Legion said..



bjshack said..
(Chrispys) correct in saying it would have never happened at Dbah. QLD government did pay a substantial amount to the organisers. For them to move the event onto NSW soil just was not a viable possibility, both technically, emotively and i think legally





Were did you get the info from




The simple fact is that Dbah is in NSW. Not Qld, even though right next door. These type of events need to have some rather serous contracts drawn up between sponsors, councils and the organisers and media may have talked it up (moving it as an option) but i don't believe it would have happened. It would be like the Cottesloe council sponsoring and having a event like the Sculptures by the sea but then it actually being set up at Trigg beach. Why would one council pay for another to benefit. The QLD government had sponsored the comp and wanted the event run on QLD soil and thats why they extended the waiting period instead of moving..

But saying that there was lots of right ups and quotes from people regarding the move and the legality/viability..



About three years ago they set up 2 comp sites one at snapper the other at d-bah and had two small sites set up at Greenmount and Kirra.


Im not saying it has never happened or might not happen again in other years to come. Just this year gone i doubt very much they would have allowed it. Id say after the issues this year they will write it into the contracts to be able to be moved though

Legion
WA, 2222 posts
17 Mar 2015 8:45PM
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Ok so its not a credible source. Shame that would be interesting to know..

chrispy
WA, 9675 posts
18 Mar 2015 3:33AM
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Legion said..
Ok so its not a credible source. Shame that would be interesting to know..



queensland government and council were on our news saying it was not going to happen. yeh mac it did happen a few year back.

they did not go into the finer details but it really did come down to investment dollars from the qld and gcccc.

razzonator your response gave me a big laugh,cheers. but seriously how many times does one thing need to be explained to you? or are a bit like jb and his sharks and only want to hear what you like? the wink one is for you jb

razz I also agree I would have loved to watch it at dbah.....


oh they can move the site...to kirra for example as they did last year....because it is in Queensland

Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
18 Mar 2015 9:21AM
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Legion said..
Ok so its not a credible source. Shame that would be interesting to know..



Not sure its credible - it is a News publication - if you checked through the council meeting minutes you would find the report. I would do this for you but am busy today

My understanding from something I read a long time back was that the present contribution is somewhere in the region of $100,000 - which I think is significantly less that what the WA Govt pay for the comp over your side. No doubt there would also be a hell of a lot of 'inkind' support offered as well - no charge for use of the grounds, council workers, permits etc

What I find amusing though and most on here would find hard to believe is that 1 million people are watching a national 666 comp on-line !!! Wonder where they get that number from? I think that must be hugely inflated - especially given the work that Stu did at Swellnet on the number of people watching the WSL last year. Given the way that statement was made I think it questions the credibility of this entire piece.

www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/nocookies?a=A.flavipes

As an offside note - Councils do not mess around trying to re-coup their money though. Last year a mate had a food stall at the Australian Open in Manly - huge set of rules to abide by - when he had to be open, what he could do etc and he had to pay over $3k for the privilege. There were loads and loads of stalls and shops setup on the beachfront. The Council would have cleaned up.

loco4olas
NSW, 1525 posts
18 Mar 2015 11:00AM
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DJMWA said..
+1 for Dooma and Snake to come back, those two were a crackup. I haaaaate the commentators now, even Ronnie Blakey, who used to be pretty honest, is a WSL kissa$$ now.


Bearing in mind that all the blokes doing the commentary are doing it to earn their crust-Ronie's a mate and very candid in person-so they have to toe the corporate line-unfortunate reality of the new fuggged up WSL paradigm. Case in point-the interview the morning after with Medina after his dummy spit-total case of cleansing the World Champ and his tarnished image. Transparently sickening.

Ctngoodvibes
WA, 1404 posts
18 Mar 2015 8:19AM
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Dazzler75 said...
I would love to see Margs 4 times+ overhead - I mean properbly big - & clean as a whistle.

No going right or shifting to the Box as I found that a bit repetitive & hard to judge from a competition point of view. Just good old fashion big Mainbreak lining up to the Rivermouth al-la Curren.

It would be interesting to see how the Top 34 go in those conditions, I'm sure they would rip given the right boards - but how many of them would have them in the board bag. I'd be backing JJF & Mick in conditions like that.


+1. I reckon margs got a bad rap last year coz they only had small south swells. A big macking west swell would be quite interesting. It has a lot more grunt then it looks when it's big. Would be a lot better then watching waist high snapper anyway.

thedrip
WA, 2355 posts
18 Mar 2015 9:11AM
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Ctngoodvibes said...
Dazzler75 said...
I would love to see Margs 4 times+ overhead - I mean properbly big - & clean as a whistle.

No going right or shifting to the Box as I found that a bit repetitive & hard to judge from a competition point of view. Just good old fashion big Mainbreak lining up to the Rivermouth al-la Curren.

It would be interesting to see how the Top 34 go in those conditions, I'm sure they would rip given the right boards - but how many of them would have them in the board bag. I'd be backing JJF & Mick in conditions like that.


+1. I reckon margs got a bad rap last year coz they only had small south swells. A big macking west swell would be quite interesting. It has a lot more grunt then it looks when it's big. Would be a lot better then watching waist high snapper anyway.



And I reckon you are understating it. I have surfed six foot Snapper and it is a cuddly teddy bear compared to six foot Margies - and at six foot you can go right at Margies so it's not even proper Margies. I mean I was in a twin fin at Snapper. Try that at Margies.

Solid Margies is very very grunty. In my experience, none of the East Coast waves match up in grunt factor to the west coast, but I guess you just need to look at a swell map to understand that.

I wonder what size board the uber freaks of sponno world would surf if Margies hit 10-12, let alone 15?

Dawn Patrol
WA, 1991 posts
18 Mar 2015 10:21AM
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I wonder what size board the uber freaks of sponno world would surf if Margies hit 10-12, let alone 15?



At least on a bigger board they could put more stickers on it!!

Razzonater
2224 posts
18 Mar 2015 10:43AM
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new moon april 18 not saying much more but the old surgeons table at mainbreak will be looking good. historically your looking at a 2.5-3metre swell...may just get what we all want too see.
and yeah drip 6foot mainbreak is very very different to 6foot snapper
gladiators ready

jbshack
WA, 6913 posts
18 Mar 2015 10:59AM
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Legion said..
Ok so its not a credible source. Shame that would be interesting to know..


Do you live on a trust account and not in the real world




mazdon
1198 posts
18 Mar 2015 9:34PM
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^^
Lol
Could be your Funniest post ever jb.
Apologies if it's a serious question haha



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