Select to expand quoteMacaha said..
Is this the longboard room version of a hipster thread
Na that's the glider thread 
This one has its moments though.
Select to expand quoteSP said..Macaha said..
Is this the longboard room version of a hipster thread
Na that's the glider thread
This one has its moments though.
Gliders are done. Vanders is gone .
Mac ridden his twice but he's scared of it.
Rip 10 ft plus boards
Select to expand quotelaceys lane said..SP said..Macaha said..
Is this the longboard room version of a hipster thread
Na that's the glider thread
This one has its moments though.
Gliders are done. Vanders is gone .
Mac ridden his twice but he's scared of it.
Rip 10 ft plus boards
I agree Vanders is GONE.
Select to expand quoteSP said..Macaha said..
Is this the longboard room version of a hipster thread
Na that's the glider thread
This one has its moments though.
Fact, Most mids are gliders...
So hilarious you clowns think I'm a hipster ??????????
I can't even grow hair and I get no lovin when I grow a beard... So that immediately rules me out right...
Select to expand quoteAndyrooMac said..SP said..Macaha said..
Is this the longboard room version of a hipster thread
Na that's the glider thread
This one has its moments though.
Fact, Most mids are gliders...
So hilarious you clowns think I'm a hipster
Oh no not you Andy but that Lacey with his long hair and beard geez
Select to expand quoteMacaha said..AndyrooMac said..SP said..Macaha said..
Is this the longboard room version of a hipster thread
Na that's the glider thread
This one has its moments though.
Fact, Most mids are gliders...
So hilarious you clowns think I'm a hipster
Oh no not you Andy but that Lacey with his long hair and beard geez
Well you have actually met me... So you know that I'm no hipster, just a regular assh0le
Select to expand quoteAndyrooMac said..Macaha said..AndyrooMac said..SP said..Macaha said..
Is this the longboard room version of a hipster thread
Na that's the glider thread
This one has its moments though.
Fact, Most mids are gliders...
So hilarious you clowns think I'm a hipster
Oh no not you Andy but that Lacey with his long hair and beard geez
Well you have actually met me... So you know that I'm no hipster, just a regular assh0le
Beautiful guy with a beautiful family we are talking about the same Andy right you probably picked up the A-hole from Lacey
Select to expand quoteAndyrooMac said..SP said..Macaha said..
Is this the longboard room version of a hipster thread
Na that's the glider thread
This one has its moments though.
Fact, Most mids are gliders...
So hilarious you clowns think I'm a hipster ??????????
I can't even grow hair and I get no lovin when I grow a beard... So that immediately rules me out right...
Chicken or the egg...
Are gliders just stretched mids.
Which occurred first. Skips magic or eagle?
Select to expand quoteAndyrooMac said..SP said..Macaha said..
Is this the longboard room version of a hipster thread
Na that's the glider thread
This one has its moments though.
Fact, Most mids are gliders...
So hilarious you clowns think I'm a hipster ??????????
I can't even grow hair and I get no lovin when I grow a beard... So that immediately rules me out right...
Come on andy.
You even buy hipster mid length music
Yep. your our designated hipster.
Even jack johnson and coldplay want you to make them cool again
Select to expand quotesaltyheaven said..
Definitely some board envy going down right about now... Looks unreal and cant wait to see her up close... and take her for a spin 
...
That said, while you were picking her up I was scoring on a real solid session at the River and Lizzy was on FIRE!!! Some really big doh closeout slabs, some really big wipeouts but some really memorable speed run in amongst it... still stoked from it... So fun... Back for some smaller ones today
Select to expand quoteSP said..AndyrooMac said..SP said..Macaha said..
Is this the longboard room version of a hipster thread
Na that's the glider thread
This one has its moments though.
Fact, Most mids are gliders...
So hilarious you clowns think I'm a hipster ??????????
I can't even grow hair and I get no lovin when I grow a beard... So that immediately rules me out right...
Chicken or the egg...
Are gliders just stretched mids.
Which occurred first. Skips magic or eagle?
Good question I'll ask Bob I mean he invented surfing right. Ok settle down fellas it was a joke
Select to expand quoteMacaha said..SP said..AndyrooMac said..SP said..Macaha said..
Is this the longboard room version of a hipster thread
Na that's the glider thread
This one has its moments though.
Fact, Most mids are gliders...
So hilarious you clowns think I'm a hipster ??????????
I can't even grow hair and I get no lovin when I grow a beard... So that immediately rules me out right...
Chicken or the egg...
Are gliders just stretched mids.
Which occurred first. Skips magic or eagle?
Good question I'll ask Bob I mean he invented surfing right. Ok settle down fellas it was a joke
Really, was it Bob?
I thought it was joel Tudor who was the guru of evrything surfing
hipsters are pretentious,market manipulated sheep that are generally fake ****s,nothing to do with beards or hair,just plenty to do with their theatre like ****ery
I'm just going to leave this here for those positively contributing to the thread(s)...
Surfed the Death Machine today. I'm very glad that I bought the board and am sure to learn a heap from it, both about riding and about shaping.
For a board that comes with dire warnings about needing just the right kind of wave, being a humbling experience, not really a backside option etc etc, I really didn't have any trouble riding it, it felt pretty natural straight off the bat.
Surf was a shifty, pitching and kind of random beach break. Head high, couple of sets a foot or two over head. Offshore and clean. The board was setup with a Narrow base 9" GL flex fin. (The standard issue Liddle fin which I already owned.) The trailing edge of the fin was 13 1/2 inches forward of the tail.
First thing I noticed paddling is the width. At 22" wide it's no wider than two of my other boards, but it feels wider paddling because the width is so far up the board, up near where your arms are when lying down. Board paddles ok, not as well as my other mids but not too far off either. Duckdives easy.
First wave on my forehand, expecting the worst, I just took off gently and cruised, couple of little turns, flick off. Easy. Not noticeably fast, or bar of soap like, or ill tempered - just easy and smooth.
After a dozen or so waves (fore and backhand), I was thinking it didn't really feel that different to what I'm used to. A bit of luscious drift in the back end on steeper takeoffs, a bit more hold from the rail forward. I was still taking it pretty easy.
Experimenting with moving my stance further up the board is what I think started to give me the first glimmers of where this thing can go. It loves to be ridden from forward. With both feet in the front half of the board and close together a bottom turn became lean and push hard with both legs, I was actually stepping my back foot forward to bottom turn, the result was the kind of nose to tail buried rail turn I've been lusting after for so long. This board just does it naturally.
The rides weren't very long so it only happened a few times, but stringing together a couple of these bottom turns and the board just went faster and faster. I pulled off laughing.
Other thing I noticed is the amount of hold from the forward part of the rail. It really does grab the face from way forward near the nose and is drawn upwards. The couple of sections that came my way offering a chance to pull in under the lip ended up with my line being too high, I just wasn't anticipating enough the board getting drawn up the face by the nose.
I'm super excited to get this thing out again in all sorts of conditions, I'm sure I'm just scratching the surface of it's virtues and quirks. I encourage anyone who is tempted by a Liddle but put off by all the negative talk to give one a go, it's different and interesting and offers sensations unlike any other board I've ridden.
Good breakdown of what was going on under your feet Salty.
Now for the $100 question....Is it fast and loose?
Awesome review dude, cant wait to see you riding her....
I'm pretty sure that your easy transition is a result of your style already matching what the board is designed for, taking, mostly, the right lines and surfing with the board and the wave rather than trying.
Experimentation is such a fun part of the adventure but its also how progression comes about...
Select to expand quoteAndyrooMac said..
Awesome review dude, cant wait to see you riding her....
I'm pretty sure that your easy transition is a result of your style already matching what the board is designed for, taking, mostly, the right lines and surfing with the board and the wave rather than trying.
Experimentation is such a fun part of the adventure but its also how progression comes about...Select to expand quoteAndyrooMac said..
Awesome review dude, cant wait to see you riding her....
I'm pretty sure that your easy transition is a result of your style already matching what the board is designed for, taking, mostly, the right lines and surfing with the board and the wave rather than trying.
Experimentation is such a fun part of the adventure but its also how progression comes about...
Beautiful I'm stoked.
Select to expand quotesaltyheaven said..
Surfed the Death Machine today. I'm very glad that I bought the board and am sure to learn a heap from it, both about riding and about shaping.
For a board that comes with dire warnings about needing just the right kind of wave, being a humbling experience, not really a backside option etc etc, I really didn't have any trouble riding it, it felt pretty natural straight off the bat.
Surf was a shifty, pitching and kind of random beach break. Head high, couple of sets a foot or two over head. Offshore and clean. The board was setup with a Narrow base 9" GL flex fin. (The standard issue Liddle fin which I already owned.) The trailing edge of the fin was 13 1/2 inches forward of the tail.
First thing I noticed paddling is the width. At 22" wide it's no wider than two of my other boards, but it feels wider paddling because the width is so far up the board, up near where your arms are when lying down. Board paddles ok, not as well as my other mids but not too far off either. Duckdives easy.
First wave on my forehand, expecting the worst, I just took off gently and cruised, couple of little turns, flick off. Easy. Not noticeably fast, or bar of soap like, or ill tempered - just easy and smooth.
After a dozen or so waves (fore and backhand), I was thinking it didn't really feel that different to what I'm used to. A bit of luscious drift in the back end on steeper takeoffs, a bit more hold from the rail forward. I was still taking it pretty easy.
Experimenting with moving my stance further up the board is what I think started to give me the first glimmers of where this thing can go. It loves to be ridden from forward. With both feet in the front half of the board and close together a bottom turn became lean and push hard with both legs, I was actually stepping my back foot forward to bottom turn, the result was the kind of nose to tail buried rail turn I've been lusting after for so long. This board just does it naturally.
The rides weren't very long so it only happened a few times, but stringing together a couple of these bottom turns and the board just went faster and faster. I pulled off laughing.
Other thing I noticed is the amount of hold from the forward part of the rail. It really does grab the face from way forward near the nose and is drawn upwards. The couple of sections that came my way offering a chance to pull in under the lip ended up with my line being too high, I just wasn't anticipating enough the board getting drawn up the face by the nose.
I'm super excited to get this thing out again in all sorts of conditions, I'm sure I'm just scratching the surface of it's virtues and quirks. I encourage anyone who is tempted by a Liddle but put off by all the negative talk to give one a go, it's different and interesting and offers sensations unlike any other board I've ridden.
So yesterday we paddled out at a fairly heavy and peaky mostly closeout beach breaks, around head high with the odd OH... definitely not "Hull" waves... and I have to say, Mikey was owning the place....
The board seemed to have plenty of natural speed and really nice carve and control... There were only 3 guys making waves with the other 2 being on traditional SB's...
I got smoked out there, really struggled to find anything, managed a few scraps was all...
Was very impressed by the Hull, clearly a lot more versatile than we thought.
Pretty interested in this outline...
David does a pretty funny/interesting review around the 20 min mark, he's riding a 6'10". He had one of these shaped as a "one board quiver" for his Australia trip and sounds like he fell in luuuurve.
Its also Torrens weapon of choice... he's riding a 7'10" at Jbay in that iconic footage.
Click here to listen:
surfsplendorpodcast.com/spit-is-now-available-on-spit/
You re killing me Andy, my ongoing dilema for my 6'10 ish "performance" midlength is:
mote massive twin
Russ Short 3 fin bonzer
CC nautilus quad
thomas or Vouch twin fish
i know I know just buy Them all..... but I can only buy one at this point ..... I am torn ...... and need to sell a board on gummie first!
Select to expand quoteAndyrooMac said..
So yesterday we paddled out at a fairly heavy and peaky mostly closeout beach breaks, around head high with the odd OH... definitely not "Hull" waves... and I have to say, Mikey was owning the place....
The board seemed to have plenty of natural speed and really nice carve and control... There were only 3 guys making waves with the other 2 being on traditional SB's...
I got smoked out there, really struggled to find anything, managed a few scraps was all...
Was very impressed by the Hull, clearly a lot more versatile than we thought.
I'd definitely be more comfortable with 'holding my own' rather than 'owning'. It was a pretty chaotic session. You just had to have the good fortune to be in the right spot at the right time, I lucked onto a few, could have easily been otherwise.
Regardless, the board is still a winner. Yesterday was probably only 4' but a pretty chunky 4' to be sure, with random wedges and sections here there and everywhere. I would have been more comfortable on my 7'2 mid with it's nice pulled in tail and moderate nose, that said though the Death Machine is certainly no slouch and handles stuff that you would never think given the reputation of the board, or the way it looks.
Select to expand quoteonefin said..
You re killing me Andy, my ongoing dilema for my 6'10 ish "performance" midlength is:
mote massive twin
Russ Short 3 fin bonzer
CC nautilus quad
thomas or Vouch twin fish
i know I know just buy Them all..... but I can only buy one at this point ..... I am torn ...... and need to sell a board on gummie first!
Nautilus bonzer maybe.
I got mine second hand but new id go the bonzer.. Love my Campbell bros bonzer. They seem to have the good bits of both a quad and single / 2 +1
Select to expand quoteonefin said..
You re killing me Andy, my ongoing dilema for my 6'10 ish "performance" midlength is:
mote massive twin
Russ Short 3 fin bonzer
CC nautilus quad
thomas or Vouch twin fish
i know I know just buy Them all..... but I can only buy one at this point ..... I am torn ...... and need to sell a board on gummie first!
Definitely take a listen to the pod then dude... They sound pretty siiiiiiick and David Lee has exposure to A LOT of boards so he knows his stuff... But I reckon you'd be stoked with anything from that list.
Probably more depends on what else you have in the quiver though.
I reckon 7'ish Bonzer maybe is my hole, that was what I needed yesterday, something a bit shorter than the 7'7" for a bit better duck diving and steeper drops.
