Select to expand quotechrispy said..MickPC said..
Bodily Automony...who should decide what goes into your body. You or someone else...Sounds like a crazy question right
Welll not the way we're headed. I think I asked before, should people who are not at risk of a serious response to Covid 19 be forced to have a so-called Covid 19 vaccine And if one was announced would you be lining up for one ASAP or not
Yeh **** that polio one and etc etc etc etc as well...bloody vaccines and medicine
My question was clearly in regard to Covid 19
What the ,,,you say numbers are fudged To make covid bigger and badder than what it is but won't except country's playing down their figures. BTW I have family in Sweden, so By your reasoning,,,,,I know more than you about Sweden 
Cheers
Select to expand quoteMickPC said..chrispy said..MickPC said..chrispy said..MickPC said..Cobra said..MickPC said..SP said..
They also both put in place the measure you disagreed with and do not represent the mortality rate of the disease as they have put in place in your words extreme measures to stop the spread. Now you are using them to say the death rate is low... Logic fail..
No they didn't, Japan did not lockdown like Australia did, heaps of people did not lose their jobs. The government made suggestions & people followed the suggestions based upon their own personal decisions. My parents in law who are in their 70's were not required to shut down their business & they did not stop working.
Their fatality rate is very low given a population size of 126 million people, how compact the population is, transportation methods, high percentage of elderly people etc ect
How is it a logic fail We just see things differently.
Silliest post ever. LOL Japan was playing their nothings wrong here card,because they wanted the Olympics to go ahead. my son was there in March. I can tell you they were very low key with people hiding.l
So your trying to tell me Japan's stats don't matter coz you reckon Japan wanted the olympics to go ahead & you have inside information coz your son holidayed there in March...and your claiming my post to be the silliest post ever Mate I love you, really I do. You crack me up also & I'm not writing that to be a smart azz 
Yet you are claiming you are smarter than everyone because you get the real smart info from YouTube....yeh ok
So you'd like to discuss the benefits of limited vs multi information sources Do we really need to go down that road
Lol
This is how arrogant you are. You tell us that you are the only person here who has the knowledge and access to umbiased and anti mainstream news/information source ...
So that right there makes you the fool,a arrogant one at that. Yeh i know i get all my info and form my decisions from watching morning television according to you
Yet all you ever provide is debunked vids that you dodge once they are debunked,again...or at best you post another YouTube vid that is one big pile of conspiracy **** with a smidgen of truth sprinkled on it,just enough to suck in people like you
So yeh ok,whatever
Or so you allege, which must make it true I guess *shrugs*
No,this is what you are constantly berating us all with, that we are all mainstream media sheep....and you want to use the word allege, get the **** outta here with your betty basic conspiracy theory cop out strategy lol *face palm *
Select to expand quoteMickPC said..chrispy said..MickPC said..
Bodily Automony...who should decide what goes into your body. You or someone else...Sounds like a crazy question right Welll not the way we're headed. I think I asked before, should people who are not at risk of a serious response to Covid 19 be forced to have a so-called Covid 19 vaccine And if one was announced would you be lining up for one ASAP or not
Yeh **** that polio one and etc etc etc etc as well...bloody vaccines and medicine
My question was clearly in regard to Covid 19
What part of my statement did you not understand ?
What was the point of your question if it can not be asked along with other vaccines ?
Select to expand quoteCobra said..
What the ,,,you say numbers are fudged To make covid bigger and badder than what it is but won't except country's playing down their figures. BTW I have family in Sweden, so By your reasoning,,,,,I know more than you about Sweden Cheers
Yes I do, I said just the other day China downplayed the virus.
"It was well reported that they downplayed the severity & infection rate of the virus. No one believes any of the stats they shared."
Select to expand quotechrispy said..MickPC said..chrispy said..MickPC said..chrispy said..MickPC said..Cobra said..MickPC said..SP said..
They also both put in place the measure you disagreed with and do not represent the mortality rate of the disease as they have put in place in your words extreme measures to stop the spread. Now you are using them to say the death rate is low... Logic fail..
No they didn't, Japan did not lockdown like Australia did, heaps of people did not lose their jobs. The government made suggestions & people followed the suggestions based upon their own personal decisions. My parents in law who are in their 70's were not required to shut down their business & they did not stop working.
Their fatality rate is very low given a population size of 126 million people, how compact the population is, transportation methods, high percentage of elderly people etc ect
How is it a logic fail We just see things differently.
Silliest post ever. LOL Japan was playing their nothings wrong here card,because they wanted the Olympics to go ahead. my son was there in March. I can tell you they were very low key with people hiding.l
So your trying to tell me Japan's stats don't matter coz you reckon Japan wanted the olympics to go ahead & you have inside information coz your son holidayed there in March...and your claiming my post to be the silliest post ever Mate I love you, really I do. You crack me up also & I'm not writing that to be a smart azz
Yet you are claiming you are smarter than everyone because you get the real smart info from YouTube....yeh ok
So you'd like to discuss the benefits of limited vs multi information sources Do we really need to go down that road
Lol
This is how arrogant you are. You tell us that you are the only person here who has the knowledge and access to umbiased and anti mainstream news/information source ...
So that right there makes you the fool,a arrogant one at that. Yeh i know i get all my info and form my decisions from watching morning television according to you
Yet all you ever provide is debunked vids that you dodge once they are debunked,again...or at best you post another YouTube vid that is one big pile of conspiracy **** with a smidgen of truth sprinkled on it,just enough to suck in people like you
So yeh ok,whatever
Or so you allege, which must make it true I guess *shrugs*
No,this is what you are constantly berating us all with, that we are all mainstream media sheep....and you want to use the word allege, get the **** outta here with your betty basic conspiracy theory cop out strategy lol *face palm *
Uh-huh yeah I say it every day apparently. *nods & walks away slowly*
Select to expand quoteMickPC said..chrispy said..MickPC said..chrispy said..MickPC said..chrispy said..MickPC said..Cobra said..MickPC said..SP said..
They also both put in place the measure you disagreed with and do not represent the mortality rate of the disease as they have put in place in your words extreme measures to stop the spread. Now you are using them to say the death rate is low... Logic fail..
No they didn't, Japan did not lockdown like Australia did, heaps of people did not lose their jobs. The government made suggestions & people followed the suggestions based upon their own personal decisions. My parents in law who are in their 70's were not required to shut down their business & they did not stop working.
Their fatality rate is very low given a population size of 126 million people, how compact the population is, transportation methods, high percentage of elderly people etc ect
How is it a logic fail We just see things differently.
Silliest post ever. LOL Japan was playing their nothings wrong here card,because they wanted the Olympics to go ahead. my son was there in March. I can tell you they were very low key with people hiding.l
So your trying to tell me Japan's stats don't matter coz you reckon Japan wanted the olympics to go ahead & you have inside information coz your son holidayed there in March...and your claiming my post to be the silliest post ever Mate I love you, really I do. You crack me up also & I'm not writing that to be a smart azz
Yet you are claiming you are smarter than everyone because you get the real smart info from YouTube....yeh ok
So you'd like to discuss the benefits of limited vs multi information sources Do we really need to go down that road
Lol
This is how arrogant you are. You tell us that you are the only person here who has the knowledge and access to umbiased and anti mainstream news/information source ...
So that right there makes you the fool,a arrogant one at that. Yeh i know i get all my info and form my decisions from watching morning television according to you
Yet all you ever provide is debunked vids that you dodge once they are debunked,again...or at best you post another YouTube vid that is one big pile of conspiracy **** with a smidgen of truth sprinkled on it,just enough to suck in people like you
So yeh ok,whatever
Or so you allege, which must make it true I guess *shrugs*
No,this is what you are constantly berating us all with, that we are all mainstream media sheep....and you want to use the word allege, get the **** outta here with your betty basic conspiracy theory cop out strategy lol *face palm *
Uh-huh yeah I say it every day apparently. *nods & walks away slowly*
Thanks for finally acknowledging something you do and not squirm away and post another YouTube clip which is your usual way
I'm so proud of you Mick,just remember little steps bro
*looks to sky for micks flying pigs *
Select to expand quotechrispy said..MickPC said..chrispy said..MickPC said..
Bodily Automony...who should decide what goes into your body. You or someone else...Sounds like a crazy question right Welll not the way we're headed. I think I asked before, should people who are not at risk of a serious response to Covid 19 be forced to have a so-called Covid 19 vaccine And if one was announced would you be lining up for one ASAP or not
Yeh **** that polio one and etc etc etc etc as well...bloody vaccines and medicine
My question was clearly in regard to Covid 19
What part of my statement did you not understand ?
What was the point of your question if it can not be asked along with other vaccines ?
I understood the point you were making. We've covered this before & I said I was concerned about the process of Covid 19 vaccination development. I'm not & anti vaxxer. But each individual vaccine is independent of the other. Just because one has proven to be of benefit, does not automatically make the rest beneficial. I don't don't take a vaccine for something my own body can fight its own battle.
Other vaccines have a very long history. I'm concerned the Covid 19 one will be rushed through without the normal procedures. The US has already changed its mandatory testing requirements in order to do this. I have no doubt Australia will do the same.
Then everyone will be forced to have a mandatory vaccine for a virus that is not that severe for most people. I'm far more in favour of my own body developing its own mechanism for immunity.
Although I am not an anti vaxxer, I'm in full support of bodily autonomy.
Select to expand quotechrispy said..MickPC said..chrispy said..MickPC said..chrispy said..MickPC said..chrispy said..MickPC said..Cobra said..MickPC said..SP said..
They also both put in place the measure you disagreed with and do not represent the mortality rate of the disease as they have put in place in your words extreme measures to stop the spread. Now you are using them to say the death rate is low... Logic fail..
No they didn't, Japan did not lockdown like Australia did, heaps of people did not lose their jobs. The government made suggestions & people followed the suggestions based upon their own personal decisions. My parents in law who are in their 70's were not required to shut down their business & they did not stop working.
Their fatality rate is very low given a population size of 126 million people, how compact the population is, transportation methods, high percentage of elderly people etc ect
How is it a logic fail We just see things differently.
Silliest post ever. LOL Japan was playing their nothings wrong here card,because they wanted the Olympics to go ahead. my son was there in March. I can tell you they were very low key with people hiding.l
So your trying to tell me Japan's stats don't matter coz you reckon Japan wanted the olympics to go ahead & you have inside information coz your son holidayed there in March...and your claiming my post to be the silliest post ever Mate I love you, really I do. You crack me up also & I'm not writing that to be a smart azz
Yet you are claiming you are smarter than everyone because you get the real smart info from YouTube....yeh ok
So you'd like to discuss the benefits of limited vs multi information sources Do we really need to go down that road
Lol
This is how arrogant you are. You tell us that you are the only person here who has the knowledge and access to umbiased and anti mainstream news/information source ...
So that right there makes you the fool,a arrogant one at that. Yeh i know i get all my info and form my decisions from watching morning television according to you
Yet all you ever provide is debunked vids that you dodge once they are debunked,again...or at best you post another YouTube vid that is one big pile of conspiracy **** with a smidgen of truth sprinkled on it,just enough to suck in people like you
So yeh ok,whatever
Or so you allege, which must make it true I guess *shrugs*
No,this is what you are constantly berating us all with, that we are all mainstream media sheep....and you want to use the word allege, get the **** outta here with your betty basic conspiracy theory cop out strategy lol *face palm *
Uh-huh yeah I say it every day apparently. *nods & walks away slowly*
Thanks for finally acknowledging something you do and not squirm away and post another YouTube clip which is your usual way
I'm so proud of you Mick,just remember little steps bro
*looks to sky for micks flying pigs *
lol have a good one mate, I've gotta head off to work.
Mick what vaccinations? There is none.
and Be FORCED to vaccinate for a pandemic virus that's not that SEVERE.... these are the thoughts of a desperate man ,I'm now officially worried .
Please excuse me ,,,*while walking away scratching one nut and brushing my teeth Thinking about dropping somebody at the pool.*
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Who has said it will be mandatory
The same people who say if you get a corona virus test that the government are really planting microchips in people lol
What about the military style lockdown in Melbourne, now how that has not got you fired up mick beggars belief
They are locked down because they can't be trusted, like other tards that think it's hyped or won't Be told to stop being selfish and think of others for once in their pathetic lives.
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Who has said it will be mandatory
I feel its headed that way m8 if you wish to live a relatively normal life.
In an interview with chief medical officer Brendan Murphy who has been advising the federal government, he was asked when borders might open for international travel. He said he could not see international borders opened until a vaccine was developed.
So reading between the lines that sounds like you will be required to have been vaccinated for Covid 19 before you are allowed to travel overseas based upon the opinion of the bloke who has been advising the federal government in regard to Covid 19.
The interview is below, sorry I don't have time right now to provide a timestamp for the statement.
OK. Just wondering as I hadn't heard anyone in a decision making position say it was going to be mandatory and even heard The current chief medical officer, Murphy has left, advocating against a mandatory vaccination.
The gov own corona response plan doesn't mention mandatory vaccinations either.
It might get to a quid pro quo in that you can't enter Australia or do certain things without testing or being vaccinated but that's a long way down the track from where we are now where there is no vaccine. And even if there is will it be widely available enough to treat everyone?
The interesting one will be if overseas country mandate it for incoming travellers.
And if you do get a choice that isn't really mandatory or forcing, it's a decision people will need to make like with a lot of other vaccines at present.
The mandatory vaccine bit seems to have been started an pushed by anti Vax groups that have a broader agenda then just Covid.
www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN20S1RU
Select to expand quoteSP said..
OK. Just wondering as I hadn't heard anyone in a decision making position say it was going to be mandatory and even heard The current chief medical officer, Murphy has left, advocating against a mandatory vaccination.
The gov own corona response plan doesn't mention mandatory vaccinations either.
It might get to a quid pro quo in that you can't enter Australia or do certain things without testing or being vaccinated but that's a long way down the track from where we are now where there is no vaccine. And even if there is will it be widely available enough to treat everyone?
The interesting one will be if overseas country mandate it for incoming travellers.
And if you do get a choice that isn't really mandatory or forcing, it's a decision people will need to make like with a lot of other vaccines at present.
The mandatory vaccine bit seems to have been started an pushed by anti Vax groups that have a broader agenda then just Covid.
www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN20S1RU
Murphy has stood down from public representation but still holds a role in the decision making process, government officials make decisions based upon advice from "the experts" of which Murphy still remains. An earlier press conference has him wishing to return to "incognito" mode, I made reference to him doing this fairly recently.
SP says, "The interesting one will be if overseas country mandate it for incoming travellers. "
I Absolutely agree! Its not just your own governments decision, the law of the lands you would like to visit also come into play. Meaning, say if your in Western Australia but would like to see your family in Japan. You need both the permission of at present the state government you reside in Australia plus the permission of the destination you wish to visit & god help you if you need to stoppover in a place that prevents your travel hopes.
I have not mentioned "mandatory vaccine" from third party input, like I stated in the post you appear to have responded too. The rhetoric seems to be pushing that way from people directly related to the legislation of our country.
SP says, "It might get to a quid pro quo in that you can't enter Australia or do certain things without testing or being vaccinated but that's a long way down the track from where we are now where there is no vaccine. And even if there is will it be widely available enough to treat everyone?"
Yes I absolutely agree & this is one of my main concerns. I fully expect a great deal of time to pass before conditions support the requirements of leading an unimpeded life.
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Again,, what vaccine?
Don't go asking hard questions cobra.
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Again,, what vaccine?
Don't go asking hard questions cobra.
Remember as many here will vacs for travel yellow fever was one if you didn't have it they would let you in not much is new under the sun.
Had a trip to Scotts Head booked for July 23 to August whenever, 2 weeks.
Guess I'm not going now.
Back in lockdown.
Don't come to Danistan.
That actually sounds a bit selfish and shallow - there are bigger issues than my trip to Scotts Head
Select to expand quoteCobra said..Cobra said..
Again,, what vaccine?
Don't go asking hard questions cobra.
Come on m8, do you seriously think I'm unaware there is no vaccine for Covid 19 at this time.
Select to expand quoteMickPC said..Cobra said..Cobra said..
Again,, what vaccine?
Don't go asking hard questions cobra.
Come on m8, do you seriously think I'm unaware there is no vaccine for Covid 19 at this time.
O you were banging on about being made to vaccinate with no vaccinations available, that's all , your words M8. But nothing like a storm in a teacup before it happens trials don't mean ones available, fast track Might be a year.
Select to expand quoteCobra said..MickPC said..Cobra said..Cobra said..
Again,, what vaccine?
Don't go asking hard questions cobra.
Come on m8, do you seriously think I'm unaware there is no vaccine for Covid 19 at this time.
O you were banging on about being made to vaccinate with no vaccinations available, that's all , your words M8. But nothing like a storm in a teacup before it happens trials don't mean ones available, fast track Might be a year.
Personally I don't think I'm over reacting with the way things look to be heading based upon what people are advising the government will need to happen for things to head towards some kind of normality.
Or in other words the "normal" we once knew is highly unlikely to ever return. It will be replaced with the "new normal". Which looks farked & it does not need to be that way.
Select to expand quoteMickPC said..Cobra said..MickPC said..Cobra said..Cobra said..
Again,, what vaccine?
Don't go asking hard questions cobra.
Come on m8, do you seriously think I'm unaware there is no vaccine for Covid 19 at this time.
O you were banging on about being made to vaccinate with no vaccinations available, that's all , your words M8. But nothing like a storm in a teacup before it happens trials don't mean ones available, fast track Might be a year.
Personally I don't think I'm over reacting with the way things look to be heading based upon what people are advising the government will need to happen for things to head towards some kind of normality.
Or in other words the "normal" we once knew is highly unlikely to ever return. It will be replaced with the "new normal". Which looks farked & it does not need to be that way.
Mick I don't know and don't have the answers to that.
my glass is half full, human lifestyles change every year. After every event be it terrorism war flu finance ,we continue and history has proven that.
So how come Victoria is in lockdown yet a Jetstar plane just landed on the Sunny Coast from Melbourne?
Select to expand quoteGWatto said..
So how come Victoria is in lockdown yet a Jetstar plane just landed on the Sunny Coast from Melbourne?
Yes still flying into Ballina this morning.?
