Lockdown

i won't google anything about this, i know we don't have enough Blood for that scale of transfusion.
sadly i can't give blood,,use to donate all the time.

this not an attack question

when was the last time people here gave blood

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Cobra said..
mick ive met a lot of people in my life and some were doctors.
Mate that guy is self medicating.

Lets just go & assume he is, its doesn't detract from the message the man is giving you if you allow yourself to listen & process what he is saying.

He's giving valuable health advice that will help you.

I didn't buy any toilet paper when all this BS started. I bought vitamins, fishing gear (throw net/speargun/lures), surf wax, frozen veg & alcohol

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Hydromann said..
So at the moment this thing is being treated as a lung issue / respiratory disease.

Severe cases put on ventilators with according to the latest stats a 50/50 chance of survival.

But what if a change in approach saw an up to 90% survival rate?

Well apparently that's what is happening when it is considered as a blood disease first and treated accordingly with transfusions of red blood cells.

So whilst people's lungs have been the focus apparently their bloods oxygen carrying capacity has been ignored.

The main problem seems to be that Covid19 causes the seperation of red blood cells from circulation and carrying of vital oxygen to where it is needed. So no matter how much oxygen you pump into damaged lungs the blood can not deliver it.

So if you or a loved one end up in a hospital bed and on a respirator you should insist on also having a blood transfusion. Apparently this will significantly improve your chances of survival.

And you won't find that recommendation in the mainstream media or being offered through medical or pharmaceutical providers. Their objectives are monetary.

Mate years ago when I was in the racing industry the old trainers used to bleed a bucket of blood from the horses - to produce new blood cells to make the horses run faster - load of crap

I would rate those claims of giving blood cells to fight Coronavirus at the same level - my understanding is they drown in their own body fluids - don't reckon a blood transfusion is going to change that - happy to be proven wrong

Is that like the cyclists drawing blood and pumping it back in via transfusion to put more oxygen in the blood to increase endurance.

Kind of they thought the new blood cells carried more oxygen then the old blood cells -load of crap banned these days

the cyclists are increasing their blood cell numbers - could so the same with a shot of anabolic steroids

Might be a load of crap and it might be banned. But its still being done. I work in the racing industry. Horses are bled, given a couple of days off and then back into work they go. Not all of them obviously but there you go.

Hard to believe , I haven't seen a horse bled in 20 - 30 years - back in the days when they used to stomach drench with straight kero to clean them out . I guess that is still done as well .

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Interesting vid though Mick. There will always be other opinions and that is a good thing.. But hard for a gov to not go with the xperts the have appointed. Sacking them looks bad. And what else would they use the thermal cameras for. Do they do more than record temp? Facial recognition etc.

From Dr Ron Paul's website (that legend that was running for US Pres about 7 years ago. Was a very interesting man to listen to during the debates. Very Unfortunate he did not get in. Instead it was another 4 years of d1ckhead Obama who famously said "what do you want me to do wave a magic wand to bring manufacturing back to the US. Something Trump took care of within a few months. There is just one thing that p1sses me about Trump & that is his good work with the economy has made the au$ Vs US$ suck. But the US$ is doomed to fail, they won't be able to continue printing money to pay off their debts forever. Hyper inflation will be kicking in very soon & if the Australian gov take the break off our economy soon we should weather this well, like we did in 2008. But they need to let people back to work soon or we'll have far more to worry about than this Corona BS. People in my field & my police friends are already seeing a spike in suicide rates...but I digress...

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ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2020/april/15/they-are-rolling-out-the-architecture-of-oppression-now-because-they-fear-the-people/

"They Are Rolling Out The Architecture Of Oppression Now Because They Fear The People"

"As authoritarianism spreads, as emergency laws proliferate, as we sacrifice our rights, we also sacrifice our capability to arrest the slide into a less liberal and less free world," NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden said in a recent interview. "Do you truly believe that when the first wave, this second wave, the 16th wave of the coronavirus is a long-forgotten memory, that these capabilities will not be kept? That these datasets will not be kept? No matter how it is being used, what is being built is the architecture of oppression."

"Apple Inc. and Google unveiled a rare partnership to add technology to their smartphone platforms that will alert users if they have come into contact with a person with Covid-19," reads a new report from Bloomberg. "People must opt in to the system, but it has the potential to monitor about a third of the world's population."

"World Health Organization executive director Dr. Michael Ryan said surveillance is part of what's required for life to return to normal in a world without a vaccine. However, civil liberties experts warn that the public has little recourse to challenge these digital exercises of power once the immediate threat has passed," reads a recent VentureBeat article titled "After coronavirus, AI could be central to our new normal".

"White House senior adviser Jared Kushner's task force has reached out to a range of health technology companies about creating a national coronavirus surveillance system to give the government a near real-time view of where patients are seeking treatment and for what, and whether hospitals can accommodate them, according to four people with knowledge of the discussions," reads a recent article by Politico, adding, "But the prospect of compiling a national database of potentially sensitive health information has prompted concerns about its impact on civil liberties well after the coronavirus threat recedes, with some critics comparing it to the Patriot Act enacted after the 9/11 attacks."

"Mass surveillance methods could save lives around the world, permitting authorities to track and curb the spread of the novel coronavirus with speed and accuracy not possible during prior pandemics," The Intercept's Sam Biddle wrote last week, adding, "There's a glaring problem: We've heard all this before. After the September 11 attacks, Americans were told that greater monitoring and data sharing would allow the state to stop terrorism before it started, leading Congress to grant unprecedented surveillance powers that often failed to preempt much of anything. The persistence and expansion of this spying in the nearly two decades since, and the abuses exposed by Snowden and others, remind us that emergency powers can outlive their emergencies."

As we discussed recently, it's an established fact that power structures will seize upon opportunities to roll out oppressive authoritarian agendas under the pretense of protecting ordinary people, when in reality they'd been working on advancing those agendas since long before the crisis being offered as the reason for them. It happened with 9/11, and we may be certain that it is happening now.

The reason for this is simple: the powerful are afraid of the public. They always have been. For as long as there has been government power, there has been the fear that the people will realize the power of their numbers and overthrow the government that is in power. And understandably so; it has happened many times throughout history.

This is more the case now than ever. The oppressive, exploitative nature of neoliberalism has created a dissatisfaction that's converged with humanity's historically unprecedented ability to network and share information, which has seen anti-government protests and movements arising all around the world. Despite the longstanding media blackout on the Yellow Vests protests in France, you may be absolutely certain that eyes widened and leaders snapped to attention all around the planet when the words "We've chopped off heads for less than this" were scrawled in graffiti on the Arc de Triomphe during the early days of the demonstrations.

Leaders are made vastly more fearful and skittish by the fact that this dissatisfaction with the current world order just happens to be occurring at a time when that world order is already at its most tenuous point in decades, with a surging China poised to surpass the US as a superpower on the world stage and collaborating with Russia and other unabsorbed nations to create a truly multipolar world. It becomes much more difficult to control dominant narratives in a way that can effectively manufacture consent for the aggression that will be necessary to freeze and reverse this shift away from unipolar domination when the denizens of that unipolar empire are out in the streets demanding its downfall.

And so of course internet censorship is being ramped up as well, with the mass media demanding that plutocrat-owned tech companies do more to combat coronavirus "disinformation" and these government-allied tech giants all too happy to oblige. In a recent escalation in this ongoing trend, Youtube changed its rules and began deleting videos accordingly after David Icke said there is a connection between coronavirus and 5G in a controversial video on that platform. Youtube is owned by Google, which has been a military-intelligence contractor with ties to the CIA and NSA since its very inception; you don't have to like Icke or his views to be repulsed by the idea of this institution manipulating human communication with an increasingly iron fist.

The escalations in internet censorship and the escalations in surveillance are both directed at a last-ditch effort to control the masses before control is lost forever, and neither are intended to be rolled back when the threat of the virus is over. People are now off the streets, with their communications being restricted and the devices they carry in their pockets being monitored with more and more intrusiveness. There are of course some good faith actors who legitimately want to protect people from the virus, just as there were some good faith actors who wanted to protect people from terrorism after 9/11, but where there is power and fear of the public there will be an agenda to reel in the freedom of the masses.

Journalist Jonathan Cook said it best when he wrote, "Our leaders are terrified. Not of the virus - of us."

Well. Just looking at the lastest news
Another 4 weeks of where we are at now
If a second wave of infections hit, construction manufacturing and retail could be shut down.
Another 3 million people unemployed .
Thats seems an under estimate to me

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Macaha said..

laceys lane said..
Well. Just looking at the lastest news
Another 4 weeks of where we are at now
If a second wave of infections hit, construction manufacturing and retail could be shut down.
Another 3 million people unemployed .
Thats seems an under estimate to me

Correct thats why we should ALL stay at home,simple, put the hard yards in early.

Correct we all have been putting the hard yards in

Ps the pm is sticking with the 6 month plan

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Macaha said..

laceys lane said..

Macaha said..

laceys lane said..
Well. Just looking at the lastest news
Another 4 weeks of where we are at now
If a second wave of infections hit, construction manufacturing and retail could be shut down.
Another 3 million people unemployed .
Thats seems an under estimate to me

Correct thats why we should ALL stay at home,simple, put the hard yards in early.

Correct we all have been putting the hard yards in mr 3 weeks

Call it halftime hopefully we will start to see some business reopening.

I dont know mac. Theres pressure building but the pm hasnt budged an inch.

I see your point though

I think so too.
I would hate to see all we have done go by the way side with a new wave

I'm not taking sides but this is all new and I believe he has done a good job so far with the unknown.
Talking to different trades they are busy some flat out but most say the same thing,they are concerned for the near future like the next 4 weeks,they think things mite slow right down.

Starting to drop off now , in civil works ... feel sorry for the subbies who won't be paid , GC notorious for this .

Is this true? south australia

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SP said..
Interesting vid though Mick. There will always be other opinions and that is a good thing.. But hard for a gov to not go with the xperts the have appointed. Sacking them looks bad. And what else would they use the thermal cameras for. Do they do more than record temp? Facial recognition etc.

From Dr Ron Paul's website (that legend that was running for US Pres about 7 years ago. Was a very interesting man to listen to during the debates. Very Unfortunate he did not get in. Instead it was another 4 years of d1ckhead Obama who famously said "what do you want me to do wave a magic wand to bring manufacturing back to the US. Something Trump took care of within a few months. There is just one thing that p1sses me about Trump & that is his good work with the economy has made the au$ Vs US$ suck. But the US$ is doomed to fail, they won't be able to continue printing money to pay off their debts forever. Hyper inflation will be kicking in very soon & if the Australian gov take the break off our economy soon we should weather this well, like we did in 2008. But they need to let people back to work soon or we'll have far more to worry about than this Corona BS. People in my field & my police friends are already seeing a spike in suicide rates...but I digress...

********************************

ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2020/april/15/they-are-rolling-out-the-architecture-of-oppression-now-because-they-fear-the-people/

"They Are Rolling Out The Architecture Of Oppression Now Because They Fear The People"

"As authoritarianism spreads, as emergency laws proliferate, as we sacrifice our rights, we also sacrifice our capability to arrest the slide into a less liberal and less free world," NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden said in a recent interview. "Do you truly believe that when the first wave, this second wave, the 16th wave of the coronavirus is a long-forgotten memory, that these capabilities will not be kept? That these datasets will not be kept? No matter how it is being used, what is being built is the architecture of oppression."

"Apple Inc. and Google unveiled a rare partnership to add technology to their smartphone platforms that will alert users if they have come into contact with a person with Covid-19," reads a new report from Bloomberg. "People must opt in to the system, but it has the potential to monitor about a third of the world's population."

"World Health Organization executive director Dr. Michael Ryan said surveillance is part of what's required for life to return to normal in a world without a vaccine. However, civil liberties experts warn that the public has little recourse to challenge these digital exercises of power once the immediate threat has passed," reads a recent VentureBeat article titled "After coronavirus, AI could be central to our new normal".

"White House senior adviser Jared Kushner's task force has reached out to a range of health technology companies about creating a national coronavirus surveillance system to give the government a near real-time view of where patients are seeking treatment and for what, and whether hospitals can accommodate them, according to four people with knowledge of the discussions," reads a recent article by Politico, adding, "But the prospect of compiling a national database of potentially sensitive health information has prompted concerns about its impact on civil liberties well after the coronavirus threat recedes, with some critics comparing it to the Patriot Act enacted after the 9/11 attacks."

"Mass surveillance methods could save lives around the world, permitting authorities to track and curb the spread of the novel coronavirus with speed and accuracy not possible during prior pandemics," The Intercept's Sam Biddle wrote last week, adding, "There's a glaring problem: We've heard all this before. After the September 11 attacks, Americans were told that greater monitoring and data sharing would allow the state to stop terrorism before it started, leading Congress to grant unprecedented surveillance powers that often failed to preempt much of anything. The persistence and expansion of this spying in the nearly two decades since, and the abuses exposed by Snowden and others, remind us that emergency powers can outlive their emergencies."

As we discussed recently, it's an established fact that power structures will seize upon opportunities to roll out oppressive authoritarian agendas under the pretense of protecting ordinary people, when in reality they'd been working on advancing those agendas since long before the crisis being offered as the reason for them. It happened with 9/11, and we may be certain that it is happening now.

The reason for this is simple: the powerful are afraid of the public. They always have been. For as long as there has been government power, there has been the fear that the people will realize the power of their numbers and overthrow the government that is in power. And understandably so; it has happened many times throughout history.

This is more the case now than ever. The oppressive, exploitative nature of neoliberalism has created a dissatisfaction that's converged with humanity's historically unprecedented ability to network and share information, which has seen anti-government protests and movements arising all around the world. Despite the longstanding media blackout on the Yellow Vests protests in France, you may be absolutely certain that eyes widened and leaders snapped to attention all around the planet when the words "We've chopped off heads for less than this" were scrawled in graffiti on the Arc de Triomphe during the early days of the demonstrations.

Leaders are made vastly more fearful and skittish by the fact that this dissatisfaction with the current world order just happens to be occurring at a time when that world order is already at its most tenuous point in decades, with a surging China poised to surpass the US as a superpower on the world stage and collaborating with Russia and other unabsorbed nations to create a truly multipolar world. It becomes much more difficult to control dominant narratives in a way that can effectively manufacture consent for the aggression that will be necessary to freeze and reverse this shift away from unipolar domination when the denizens of that unipolar empire are out in the streets demanding its downfall.

And so of course internet censorship is being ramped up as well, with the mass media demanding that plutocrat-owned tech companies do more to combat coronavirus "disinformation" and these government-allied tech giants all too happy to oblige. In a recent escalation in this ongoing trend, Youtube changed its rules and began deleting videos accordingly after David Icke said there is a connection between coronavirus and 5G in a controversial video on that platform. Youtube is owned by Google, which has been a military-intelligence contractor with ties to the CIA and NSA since its very inception; you don't have to like Icke or his views to be repulsed by the idea of this institution manipulating human communication with an increasingly iron fist.

The escalations in internet censorship and the escalations in surveillance are both directed at a last-ditch effort to control the masses before control is lost forever, and neither are intended to be rolled back when the threat of the virus is over. People are now off the streets, with their communications being restricted and the devices they carry in their pockets being monitored with more and more intrusiveness. There are of course some good faith actors who legitimately want to protect people from the virus, just as there were some good faith actors who wanted to protect people from terrorism after 9/11, but where there is power and fear of the public there will be an agenda to reel in the freedom of the masses.

Journalist Jonathan Cook said it best when he wrote, "Our leaders are terrified. Not of the virus - of us."

Interesting. Great post.

I think it will be much worse and slower to recover than 2008. Resources aren't booming, local economy is not as strong. Dollar is weak to name a few reasons.

The app is an interesting one. On one hand it will alert you quickly if you have been in contact with someone who is infected but obviously the tracking of people is a bit Orwellian. But I guess they can do it now anyway through phone companies and mobile location services anyway so are we really losing a freedom?

It's a ****ed up situation and one that is not easily solved.

Love the journalist quote at the end. The best government is one that governs less. I. E people do the right thing and society functions without over the top laws and Interference from government in their day to day lives. Shame there are a lot of self driven people who don't put society first and gov needs to step in. I think they wanted to lock it up to give themselves time to assess. Gotta be a very stressful situation for the pollies and the experts.
A wrong call probably means lives lost. Italy etc probably put the fear of a worse case scenario in the front of their mind.

Will be Interesting to see how it rolls along in the next period.
Hopefully the flattening if the curve means people can return to some normality in there day to day lives. Locking people up for long times with draconian measures can only lead to social issues which are a lot harder to solve them economic ones.

I believe they could take some restrictions off areas where they have no infection. But Sydney Mel bris needs a month. We are nearly there.

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laceys lane said..
For qld 85% of infections are related to overseas travel.

Wonderful source of information,thank you and have a great day