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Victorian State Titles 7th/8th June

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Created by ockanui > 9 months ago, 5 May 2014
ockanui
VIC, 1314 posts
5 May 2014 10:20PM
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See Surfing Victoria website for further details


Dear SUP Competitors,

The 2014 Victorian SUP Titles is being held on the 7th and 8th of June in the Barwon Coast region.

This year we have a new division in SUP Surf, Under 16 Boys, it doesn't progress to the Australian Titles.

Schedules are weather dependent, but the Marathon will be run on a seperate day to the SUP Surf and Techincal Race.

Please note; there will also be a SUP forum on Friday the 6th June at the Surfing Victoria office.
Kind Regards,

Surfing Victoria

ockanui
VIC, 1314 posts
8 May 2014 7:27PM
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It would be great to have some interstate crew come down or across for this event, mmm what can entice surf mongrels? I know the beers will be cold, not to mention the water and weather but to play get to play in the Vicco smorgasbord of waves in an absolutely amazing environment away from crowds do?

Casso
NSW, 3774 posts
9 May 2014 9:35AM
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ockanui said..

It would be great to have some interstate crew come down or across for this event, mmm what can entice surf mongrels? I know the beers will be cold, not to mention the water and weather but to play get to play in the Vicco smorgasbord of waves in an absolutely amazing environment away from crowds do?


Is the surfing open to interstate punters?

surfingvic
VIC, 4 posts
9 May 2014 3:03PM
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From Surfing Victoria website:

Massive weekend planned for the HIF Victorian SUP Titles on the Barwon Coast

Ocean Grove, VIC/AUS (Friday 9th May, 2014): The HIF Victorian SUP (Stand Up Paddleboard) Titles Presented by Be the Influence is set to take over the Barwon Coast in June and will bring together the cream of Victorian Stand Up Paddleboarding for a massive weekend.

The deciding event for selection into Victorian State Team heading to the Australian SUP Titles will be held throughout the Barwon Coast region including the Barwon River for the Marathon races and Ocean Grove Main Beach for the surfing component.

Divisions for the weekend include Marathon races, Technical Races and Surfing events ranging from Under 18’s to Over 50’s.

Surfing Victoria CEO, Max Wells, is excited to see the Stand Up Paddleboard community come together for a massive weekend.

“Having all of the events together across the weekend will be a great spectacle and really showcase the level of talent within Victoria.”

“Our SUP surfers are a hardy bunch and will no doubt be excited to surf in some great waves during winter”

“It is going to be a great gathering for the whole SUP community”

Entrants can register via surfingvic.com

The HIF Victorian SUP Titles is Presented by Be the Influence and Supported by TeamUp, VicHealth, Play it Safe by the Water and Surfing Victoria.

Full Division Breakdown:

SUP Surfing (Enter here: http://www.surfingaustralia.com/vic/event.php?id=1070)
Under 18 Boys
Open Men
Open Women
O40 Open
O50 Open

Technical Race (Enter Here: www.surfingaustralia.com/vic/event.php?id=1071)
Open Men
Open Women
O40 Open
O50 Open

Marathon Race (Enter Here: www.surfingaustralia.com/vic/event.php?id=1072)
Open Men
Open Women
O40 Open
O50 Open

surfingvic
VIC, 4 posts
9 May 2014 3:05PM
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Casso said..


ockanui said..

It would be great to have some interstate crew come down or across for this event, mmm what can entice surf mongrels? I know the beers will be cold, not to mention the water and weather but to play get to play in the Vicco smorgasbord of waves in an absolutely amazing environment away from crowds do?



Is the surfing open to interstate punters?


Hi Guys, Unfortunately interstate competitors are not allowed as it is a Victorian State Title. Cheers.

tassiesup
TAS, 477 posts
9 May 2014 10:16PM
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Casso said..


ockanui said..

It would be great to have some interstate crew come down or across for this event, mmm what can entice surf mongrels? I know the beers will be cold, not to mention the water and weather but to play get to play in the Vicco smorgasbord of waves in an absolutely amazing environment away from crowds do?



Is the surfing open to interstate punters?


Hi Guys, Unfortunately interstate competitors are not allowed as it is a Victorian State Title. Cheers.


More than welcome to come to the "TassieSUP Winter Classic"/ State Titles Casso, we let a Vic surfer take out our championship last year, looks like it only works one waybut we will have a separate division for surfers from the big island if you and your fellow sup riders from up there would like to join us

ockanui
VIC, 1314 posts
10 May 2014 10:12AM
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tassiesup said..

surfingvic said..

Casso said..


ockanui said..

It would be great to have some interstate crew come down or across for this event, mmm what can entice surf mongrels? I know the beers will be cold, not to mention the water and weather but to play get to play in the Vicco smorgasbord of waves in an absolutely amazing environment away from crowds do?



Is the surfing open to interstate punters?


Hi Guys, Unfortunately interstate competitors are not allowed as it is a Victorian State Title. Cheers.


More than welcome to come to the "TassieSUP Winter Classic"/ State Titles Casso, we let a Vic surfer take out our championship last year, looks like it only works one waybut we will have a separate division for surfers from the big island if you and your fellow sup riders from up there would like to join us



I think it certainly is a question to raise at the upcoming Surfing Vic forum, participation from interstaters will not only boost the numbers of those competing in the event, this goes for both the BOP ,marathon and surfing, but will also create a keenness of competition standards as well.
Also with NSW, Tasmania and South Australian titles events being open to interstate tourers then would it only be a natural outcome to be inclusive of those wishing to compete, a National circuit perhaps? with all the infrastructure in place to take advantage of, anyway it may be worth consideration in Vicco for next year....

HumanCartoon
VIC, 2098 posts
10 May 2014 10:31AM
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^Opening it up to interstate visitors to boost the numbers (and give the name sponsor more bang for their buck) sounds sensible. OK it's the Vic State Titles but that needn't preclude wider participation, all you need do is give the state rankings to the highest placed Viccos?

magillamelb
VIC, 627 posts
10 May 2014 2:50PM
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surfingvic said..

Casso said..


ockanui said..

It would be great to have some interstate crew come down or across for this event, mmm what can entice surf mongrels? I know the beers will be cold, not to mention the water and weather but to play get to play in the Vicco smorgasbord of waves in an absolutely amazing environment away from crowds do?



Is the surfing open to interstate punters?


Hi Guys, Unfortunately interstate competitors are not allowed as it is a Victorian State Title. Cheers.




Stupid in the extreme saying no to interstate competitors. Any competitor wants the best contest, regardless of where the talent comes from.

magillamelb
VIC, 627 posts
10 May 2014 2:54PM
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HumanCartoon said..

^Opening it up to interstate visitors to boost the numbers (and give the name sponsor more bang for their buck) sounds sensible. OK it's the Vic State Titles but that needn't preclude wider participation, all you need do is give the state rankings to the highest placed Viccos?


+1

magillamelb
VIC, 627 posts
10 May 2014 2:55PM
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ockanui said..

tassiesup said..

surfingvic said..

Casso said..


ockanui said..

It would be great to have some interstate crew come down or across for this event, mmm what can entice surf mongrels? I know the beers will be cold, not to mention the water and weather but to play get to play in the Vicco smorgasbord of waves in an absolutely amazing environment away from crowds do?



Is the surfing open to interstate punters?


Hi Guys, Unfortunately interstate competitors are not allowed as it is a Victorian State Title. Cheers.


More than welcome to come to the "TassieSUP Winter Classic"/ State Titles Casso, we let a Vic surfer take out our championship last year, looks like it only works one waybut we will have a separate division for surfers from the big island if you and your fellow sup riders from up there would like to join us



I think it certainly is a question to raise at the upcoming Surfing Vic forum, participation from interstaters will not only boost the numbers of those competing in the event, this goes for both the BOP ,marathon and surfing, but will also create a keenness of competition standards as well.
Also with NSW, Tasmania and South Australian titles events being open to interstate tourers then would it only be a natural outcome to be inclusive of those wishing to compete, a National circuit perhaps? with all the infrastructure in place to take advantage of, anyway it may be worth consideration in Vicco for next year....


I'd have thought it was essential to grow the sport...

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
10 May 2014 3:44PM
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It's very easy to accommodate interstate competitors in a race format and still maintain the integrity of state rankings across multiple age and gender divisions. In surfing, considerably more challenging with inevitable whinging from someone who gets bundled out early by a foreign interloper. However, if everyone agrees not to whinge about it after the fact, then it would be great to see an event with all the best talent. What are the chances of there being no whinging?

Either rate, as MJ says it's worth bringing up at the surfing forum the day before the event.

riverider
TAS, 1112 posts
10 May 2014 7:32PM
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PTWoody said..

It's very easy to accommodate interstate competitors in a race format and still maintain the integrity of state rankings across multiple age and gender divisions. In surfing, considerably more challenging with inevitable whinging from someone who gets bundled out early by a foreign interloper. However, if everyone agrees not to whinge about it after the fact, then it would be great to see an event with all the best talent. What are the chances of there being no whinging?

Either rate, as MJ says it's worth bringing up at the surfing forum the day before the event.


I think you will find the last thing the interstaters want to do is do a local out of getting through to the next round, the last thing your guy Standito wanted to do was to take out our state championship and handed his trophy over to the highest ranked tassie competitor, I'm pretty sure he had a good time time down here and had a few other surfs with the locals while he was down here including myself
If you think about it it's not hard to accomadate them, tassie will have a separate division this year and if we don't have enough for a separate division we will be able to slot them into our comp, but you will find all they want to do is share some waves with the locals, whether at the comp or while there are there.

magillamelb
VIC, 627 posts
10 May 2014 11:17PM
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I can understand a point of view of being 'exclusive' if Olympic medals are up for grabs, but at a state level isn't it more about the opportunity to push yourself against the best on the day regardless of what postcode they reside in?

How many Australians have won the Australian open (m or f) in the last 10 years in golf or tennis? Do the 'foreigners' sit on the sidelines and watch the local who got 5th take home the big prize? I don't think so.

It's a privilege to represent your state at a national or interstate competition. Why should those people be excluded? We can't discriminate on racial, religious, sex or other social grounds. What right does a sporting body have to discriminate on a postcode? If 'foreigners' for example fill the podium, then the rights to represent the state at a national level go to those native to the state that finish in the top whatever, but the state champion should always be the person who was best on the day, regardless of where they live.

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
11 May 2014 1:45AM
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You're missing a very important point within your own post... the Australian Open golf and tennis tournaments contain the word "Open" in the title. There was a time when this wasn't the case, and there were limitations on who could and couldn't enter. In terms of discrimination, you might be surprised to learn the only people allowed to enter Surfing Victoria's state titles are members of Surfing Victoria. To enter Surfing Australia's national titles, not only do you need to be a member of a your state body, but you also have to carry an Australian passport.

JMD
VIC, 14 posts
11 May 2014 7:52PM
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Just wondering whether anyone is free to enter the marathon race or do you need to qualify or be at a certain level? Interested in having a paddle but won't be breaking any records. Cheers

magillamelb
VIC, 627 posts
11 May 2014 7:57PM
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Don't worry, I'm not out to break any records either. You'll be in good company down the back of the pack.

magillamelb
VIC, 627 posts
11 May 2014 7:58PM
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PTWoody said..

You're missing a very important point within your own post... the Australian Open golf and tennis tournaments contain the word "Open" in the title. There was a time when this wasn't the case, and there were limitations on who could and couldn't enter. In terms of discrimination, you might be surprised to learn the only people allowed to enter Surfing Victoria's state titles are members of Surfing Victoria. To enter Surfing Australia's national titles, not only do you need to be a member of a your state body, but you also have to carry an Australian passport.


Looks like I'm out of luck then without the right colour passport.

If that's how Surfing Australia wants to grow surfing in general and SUP surfing, I'm not sure I want to be involved with such an organisation. Our affiliations between Surfing Vic and the respective state/national canoe/kayak bodies seem to be chalk & cheese in terms of being welcoming & inclusive.

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
11 May 2014 8:03PM
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JMD said..

Just wondering whether anyone is free to enter the marathon race or do you need to qualify or be at a certain level? Interested in having a paddle but won't be breaking any records. Cheers



There is no qualification criteria or subjective level of ability as far as I know. You just need to join Surfing Victoria. So factor that cost in as an addition to the entry fee.

ockanui
VIC, 1314 posts
11 May 2014 10:15PM
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Whilst Surfing at State Titles level may require an ability of a reasonable standard due to the level of competition and heat format, let alone the conditions on the day may also add to that criteria.

This may also be a similar factor in Bop racing, although in our recent Sup Vic events we had some 30 participants, conditions weren't hugely challenging but the ethos was on inclusiveness of all skills and ability levels and therefore the emphasis was to provide a race format that may grow that genre of Sup.

Hopefully the format for the Titles can follow this lead that we have provided through our comps, marathon racing can also be along the same lines and embrace an opportunity of inclusiveness.

I know we are off to the State Titles but given that Sup in Vicco is still young I feel it would be great that they could be seen as an experience for all ability and willingness to participate and compete at that level, you gotta be fit though and have trained hard but it would be great to have the numbers at the starting line, the cream will always rise and win their respective events but we also want it to be inclusive and thats why providing an opportunity for interstate competitors helps achieve that as well.

I just hope there are lots of people getting involved in this event and don't let the mystique of a Titles event get in the way too much, its a really well run event...IMO

oneteam
VIC, 25 posts
13 May 2014 8:04PM
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Just wondering is there any chance we will get the opportunity as SUP surfers to surf a quality wave in a competition especially vic titles.
Barwon heads is not a quality wave and iam sure the shortboard vic titles would not be held a such a place so why are we.
How about bells beach that would be great or is that only for short board comps.
They hold SUP comps at sunset beach so if it's ok there why not here.
Would someone at surfing vic like to elaborate as I would think surfing a wave of quality with shape and form would be much more enticing for spectators and competors.
If we are all equal this may be the case but we will see as SUP is not going away!!!!
Will be eagerly awaiting reply from surfing vic???

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
13 May 2014 8:24PM
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All good questions oneteam. I assume you will be coming to the Surfing Victoria SUP surfing forum to raise your concerns?

oneteam
VIC, 25 posts
13 May 2014 8:50PM
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Yes Ii really hope to.,
I know 13 th beach can be good but there are so many good reef breaks on the west coast and I think we would all love the chance to surf some of them.

They don't need to be the absolute best waves.
Do you know the reason why when there is a contest on west coast it's in the barwon heads region .
A point break would be good.

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
13 May 2014 9:17PM
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We passed on feedback to Surfing Victoria very similar to your last post. Seems most SUP surfers are on the same page. Not sure what factors went into the decision to go with the Barwon region for this event but so far as I know, this is the first time Surfing Victoria has used the Barwon coast for a SUP surf event.

ChrisClarke1
VIC, 227 posts
13 May 2014 9:33PM
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All is not lost guys, the 13th beach bommies are all on the Bawon coast. We could hold the comp out there then bop around them and marathon from the Barwon pub to ant Bommie and back. What's our chances??

As long as we don't do another ocean marathon in a flat water river and get some decent surf, I'll be happy.

ChrisClarke1
VIC, 227 posts
13 May 2014 9:46PM
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Also agree, it should opened up to interstate crew. Racing easy to get Vic placing and run a separate division for anyone wanting to surf against interstate guys.

ockanui
VIC, 1314 posts
13 May 2014 11:17PM
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We passed on feedback to Surfing Victoria very similar to your last post. Seems most SUP surfers are on the same page. Not sure what factors went into the decision to go with the Barwon region for this event but so far as I know, this is the first time Surfing Victoria has used the Barwon coast for a SUP surf event.


Bass Sup had a few events there, IMO not up to the quality wave required to bring the best out in sup surfing, Chris when you think of what was achieved at the Sup Vic surf event in October, we were lucky, this could be a missed opportunity but its on here and thats that...

This is also the big Sup competition problem, that the ideal conditions for all 3 genres are all different so I guess Ocean Grove could be one of the best spots for all events that are held in the one location, again IMO it maybe the surf event is held at a different time and place in the future than the bop and marathon and maybe those two events are held at a different time of the year as well, hard to get it right but certainly worth considering ...(IMO)

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
15 May 2014 10:03PM
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ChrisClarke1 said...
All is not lost guys, the 13th beach bommies are all on the Bawon coast. We could hold the comp out there then bop around them and marathon from the Barwon pub to ant Bommie and back. What's our chances??

As long as we don't do another ocean marathon in a flat water river and get some decent surf, I'll be happy.


Chris, the Marathon is same location as last year. It's not actually specified as an ocean marathon. The ISA marathon was on a lake paddling between islands.

magillamelb
VIC, 627 posts
16 May 2014 2:30PM
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So you can enter these events, but the website won't tell you besides a region where and at what time these events are, but they're really happy to take your money.

Maybe it could be renamed The Great Surfing Victoria Treasure Hunt? If you're a Victorian (because we can't have any foreigners) and you make it to the right beach at the right time, you win the event.

The State Government must be thrilled with their ROI with sponsoring this thing. If you want to represent the SUP community Surfing Victoria, at least show that you're remotely interested please.

If Ockanui or PT have any more info on the Marathon, could you please let me know?

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
16 May 2014 3:08PM
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Welcome to the world of surfing competition, magillamelb, where events can never be scheduled as precisely and conveniently as most other sports.

The irony is that this event is MORE organised and location specific than many of the surf crew would like it to be. Surfing Victoria has pretty much established that the surf comp and technical race will be held at Ocean Grove Main Beach on either the Saturday or Sunday, depending on which day's forecast promises the best surf conditions. Contrary to this, many surfers would prefer a wide array of beach options to choose the best conditions on the day, and they would ideally like to see the option of lay days to ensure that they get great conditions. So as you see, the 2 day window, and the strong likelihood of just one surf beach location is as specific as you are ever likely to see with an event of this nature and scope anywhere in the world.

As for the Marathon race, it will be held on the alternate day to the surf events. The plan is to run it in the Barwon River mouth at Barwon Heads. Once again, there are some who would prefer multiple course options in order to provide an ideal ocean downwinder, so in fact Surfing Victoria is more specific than some of the other state titles events.

magillamelb
VIC, 627 posts
16 May 2014 4:51PM
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So don't expect to plan to do anything else for the entire weekend except for the event or events you have entered.



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