Select to expand quoteDWF said..IvorWindeas said..
Have you actually spent anytime with the recent GoFoil product?
Yes, have been on Gofoil since the Kai wing came out. Love riding the RS850 on V2 mast. Yes everything is strong. But the if the wings fit tight on the mast then they need whacking on and off and can get chipped. And if they aren't on tight, then they wobble and you loose control and pump efficiency on foil. It's such a shame, they are great foils and am sure they could fix this issue. I thought they would have done something for the new range.
You miss understand the engineering side of how things work. All epoxy matrix components wear.
Armstrongs hex mount wore so bad, with no easy way for the consumer to fix, then said screw it and adding tons of extra screws to make it last a little longer before the next component in the matrix got wobbly. Extra screws are a band-aide that works for a while, but not forever.
All the brands with fuselages pressed onto male mast ends, also get wobbly over time and need the consumer to add epoxy to retighten. It's a fact. Whether or not you're aware of it is another story. Many consumers are oblivious.
So looking at the simple tapered square design of GoFoil, the question is identical to other brands. When the epoxy matrix finally wears enough to show wobble, how easy is it to fix for the consumer. Very easy in this case. Put epoxy on your finger and wipe on side of the square face. Done, tight like new again.
I hate to criticise Gofoil, because it is a great brand with amazing foils. But this comment has been there for years, please take the client's input and improve the system. They may get some old clients back.
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Select to expand quotePacoo said..DWF said..IvorWindeas said..
Have you actually spent anytime with the recent GoFoil product?
Yes, have been on Gofoil since the Kai wing came out. Love riding the RS850 on V2 mast. Yes everything is strong. But the if the wings fit tight on the mast then they need whacking on and off and can get chipped. And if they aren't on tight, then they wobble and you loose control and pump efficiency on foil. It's such a shame, they are great foils and am sure they could fix this issue. I thought they would have done something for the new range.
You miss understand the engineering side of how things work. All epoxy matrix components wear.
Armstrongs hex mount wore so bad, with no easy way for the consumer to fix, then said screw it and adding tons of extra screws to make it last a little longer before the next component in the matrix got wobbly. Extra screws are a band-aide that works for a while, but not forever.
All the brands with fuselages pressed onto male mast ends, also get wobbly over time and need the consumer to add epoxy to retighten. It's a fact. Whether or not you're aware of it is another story. Many consumers are oblivious.
So looking at the simple tapered square design of GoFoil, the question is identical to other brands. When the epoxy matrix finally wears enough to show wobble, how easy is it to fix for the consumer. Very easy in this case. Put epoxy on your finger and wipe on side of the square face. Done, tight like new again.
I hate to criticise Gofoil, because it is a great brand with amazing foils. But this comment has been there for years, please take the client's input and improve the system. They may get some old clients back.
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GoFoil are better than others their simplicity is a bonus. Every foil brand has its issues- Axis corrosion and having to use tefgel plus a bewildering array of foils, Lift wobbly mast and cracks in foils, Army wobbly mast(fixed now at huge cost) and underwhelming foils, Takuma breaking, etc etc. it is a battle for the consumer to stay up with the latest and greatest we seem to be guinea pigs some times. First world problems what a time to be alive.
Select to expand quotehilly said..Pacoo said..DWF said..IvorWindeas said..
Have you actually spent anytime with the recent GoFoil product?
Yes, have been on Gofoil since the Kai wing came out. Love riding the RS850 on V2 mast. Yes everything is strong. But the if the wings fit tight on the mast then they need whacking on and off and can get chipped. And if they aren't on tight, then they wobble and you loose control and pump efficiency on foil. It's such a shame, they are great foils and am sure they could fix this issue. I thought they would have done something for the new range.
You miss understand the engineering side of how things work. All epoxy matrix components wear.
Armstrongs hex mount wore so bad, with no easy way for the consumer to fix, then said screw it and adding tons of extra screws to make it last a little longer before the next component in the matrix got wobbly. Extra screws are a band-aide that works for a while, but not forever.
All the brands with fuselages pressed onto male mast ends, also get wobbly over time and need the consumer to add epoxy to retighten. It's a fact. Whether or not you're aware of it is another story. Many consumers are oblivious.
So looking at the simple tapered square design of GoFoil, the question is identical to other brands. When the epoxy matrix finally wears enough to show wobble, how easy is it to fix for the consumer. Very easy in this case. Put epoxy on your finger and wipe on side of the square face. Done, tight like new again.
I hate to criticise Gofoil, because it is a great brand with amazing foils. But this comment has been there for years, please take the client's input and improve the system. They may get some old clients back.
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GoFoil are better than others their simplicity is a bonus. Every foil brand has its issues- Axis corrosion and having to use tefgel plus a bewildering array of foils, Lift wobbly mast and cracks in foils, Army wobbly mast(fixed now at huge cost) and underwhelming foils, Takuma breaking, etc etc. it is a battle for the consumer to stay up with the latest and greatest we seem to be guinea pigs some times. First world problems what a time to be alive.
I use to ride GF, but switched to code, no regrets, only issue was mast foot a bit big had to sand it down a bit, but no other issues, only a few months in so early days, longevity is the next test.
not sure why GF are still doing the steps, def not necessary imo and will only add drag and slow the foil down, but if you're in maui it doesn't matter what foil you ride as conditions are so good compared to the sketchy east coast of Australia
I have had the pleasure to ride almost every GoFoil wing since 2019 and my new go to foil quiver for prone and SUP in waves is the P1300 for flat to chest high and the RS1150 for anything bigger.
The P1300 pumps every bit as good as the PNL185 but it is a lot easier to turn and feels a lot more predictable, particularly if the tips pop out. I know in bigger waves at speed, bigger foils can be hard to handle, but when it is small these new P Series wings Alex has designed are actually really easy to turn, maintain speed and the pump is next level.
For me at 90kg wet, small wings in small waves are just hard work, yeah they turn but I get gassed pumping them. This P1300 allows me to turn tight enough in small waves and makes pumping and linking so much easier because of the glide (rest time). The RS1150 is an absolute beast for me in anything over chest high, the way that thing grips and turns, then pumps is like no other foil in the right conditions.
Anyway, for me the P1300 is one of those wings that will be solid against its rivals for a long time into the future. I'm told it is epic for the DW in the right conditions, but I have not tried that yet.
Just for the record, I'm a rusted on Gofoil fan. 
Select to expand quoteJmeHwk said..
I have had the pleasure to ride almost every GoFoil wing since 2019 and my new go to foil quiver for prone and SUP in waves is the P1300 for flat to chest high and the RS1150 for anything bigger.
The P1300 pumps every bit as good as the PNL185 but it is a lot easier to turn and feels a lot more predictable, particularly if the tips pop out. I know in bigger waves at speed, bigger foils can be hard to handle, but when it is small these new P Series wings Alex has designed are actually really easy to turn, maintain speed and the pump is next level.
For me at 90kg wet, small wings in small waves are just hard work, yeah they turn but I get gassed pumping them. This P1300 allows me to turn tight enough in small waves and makes pumping and linking so much easier because of the glide (rest time). The RS1150 is an absolute beast for me in anything over chest high, the way that thing grips and turns, then pumps is like no other foil in the right conditions.
Anyway, for me the P1300 is one of those wings that will be solid against its rivals for a long time into the future. I'm told it is epic for the DW in the right conditions, but I have not tried that yet.
Just for the record, I'm a rusted on Gofoil fan.
I was a bit turned off the RS1150 in anything over thigh height running the 14.5 FTL (which makes for an incredible pump machine) as the foil would spike lift in hard turns. Then I went out with the 12.5 FTS and was blown away by the speed and tight turns. Switching tails removed the lift overload and allows for much more power in the wave which translates to blazing fast speed that is still turnable.
I'm thinking about getting a 14.5 FTS to do the same to the P1300. Anybody try it with a 14.5 or even 17 FTS?
Hi Hwy1North,
I've been using the P1300 a lot lately with the 14.5" tail and it turns like a demon especially if the waves are a bit bigger then I used it this morning with the 17.5" tail and still had amazing turning but the carry through the fat sections and deep water was fantastic...I downwinded this setup in Perth in November and loved it too..
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Hi Hwy1North,
I've been using the P1300 a lot lately with the 14.5" tail and it turns like a demon especially if the waves are a bit bigger then I used it this morning with the 17.5" tail and still had amazing turning but the carry through the fat sections and deep water was fantastic...I downwinded this setup in Perth in November and loved it too..
Thanks robg1703, confirming you mean the FT-S?!
For me, when its tiny the P1300 is just perfect. It still turns but I get to rest a bit on the pump out because the glide is so good. I use it with a 12.5 FTL.
