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New Foil Drive Assist Max

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Created by GWatto > 9 months ago, 3 Nov 2023
Piros
QLD, 7211 posts
17 Nov 2023 10:46PM
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Did my first DW today on the FD Max with the sport battery on my DC 5-5 x 20 x 55 Litre prone & Code 980s talk about shortening the learning curve to downwinding . I've got a broken hand so can't paddle at all but this was a piece of cake .

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Piros
QLD, 7211 posts
19 Nov 2023 7:11AM
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Another fun session today on the FD Max

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Piros
QLD, 7211 posts
19 Nov 2023 9:39PM
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Few pics from today








Piros
QLD, 7211 posts
29 Nov 2023 9:35AM
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robbo1111
NSW, 645 posts
29 Nov 2023 10:58AM
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How long are you getting out of the sport battery Rob?

Piros
QLD, 7211 posts
29 Nov 2023 7:03PM
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More I ride the longer everything gets it will go anywhere from 35 to 45 mins on the sports and 45 to 1.15 on the max . All depends how you ride .

Holoholo
242 posts
30 Nov 2023 4:51AM
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Seems such a great gateway into DW and session saver when conditions are crap. If I had one, wife would never see me. It's only the price-tag that snaps me to reality and saves me from myself.

Wingman WA
WA, 57 posts
30 Nov 2023 9:01AM
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Have just got the new slim system so will try and get some reports as soon as conditions are good, took it for a downwind run and its noticeably smoother and more grunt for sure, made a pretty ordinary run a lot of fun !!

coastflyer
SA, 599 posts
1 Dec 2023 7:19PM
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@Hwy1North in my opinion the FD is at it's best when it's not in use (pod out of the water motor off), I look at it as a tool to give me the most possible "chip ins" and "on foil time" as possible in which I can then clock up as much muscle memory and "learning to foil" as possible. People that use them as a toy or efoil may be having fun but the progression tends to stagnate there. I started foiling about 6 months ago and even as a long time surfer I sucked during my initial tow sessions it got frustrating. I didn't want to buy a FD I considered it the easy way out and cheating. But having said that I eventually got one (again only looking at it as a temporary learning tool) The FD allowed me to put in the time on foil without needing to rely on a jetski or maybe catching 1 wave per session.Here's a few clips from the past couple of weeks (nothing amazing it's tiny shore break conditions and my first flat water session but it's real world I guess) I'm still not near good enough to ditch it yet, but I will continue to work on on my surf technique, my turns and my pump which should all hopefully transfer over to "real foiling" when I make that move.
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Great videos! Do you just mount the camera on a tri-pod and hit record? However you do it, very effective.

Piros
QLD, 7211 posts
2 Dec 2023 7:39AM
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Another fun arvo on the Gen 2

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DavidJohn
VIC, 17568 posts
2 Dec 2023 9:35AM
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Nice one Rob.. Gutsy effort shooting the pier..

Piros
QLD, 7211 posts
2 Dec 2023 9:32AM
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Yeah especially with so many fishing lines , that was the only time I came out not tangled up

LouD
WA, 642 posts
6 Dec 2023 10:56AM
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Anyone know anything about the new Manta foils Take Off system. Looks quite similar.

drc13
NSW, 151 posts
6 Dec 2023 2:36PM
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LouD said..
Anyone know anything about the new Manta foils Take Off system. Looks quite similar.


If the specs are accurate the launch price is incredibly appealing. Some of the designs and specs "on paper" are better than the gen2 Manta do have a legit history in efoils so there's actually a chance it will come through which just leaves launch date and warranty support as the unknowns.Worth keeping an eye on but I wouldn't be throwing money at it until there's some reputable reviews/videos/demos

hilly
WA, 7855 posts
6 Dec 2023 12:19PM
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drc13 said..

LouD said..
Anyone know anything about the new Manta foils Take Off system. Looks quite similar.



If the specs are accurate the launch price is incredibly appealing. Some of the designs and specs "on paper" are better than the gen2 Manta do have a legit history in efoils so there's actually a chance it will come through which just leaves launch date and warranty support as the unknowns.Worth keeping an eye on but I wouldn't be throwing money at it until there's some reputable reviews/videos/demos


Remember to add gst and shipping (which the last time I tried to get a soloshot refurbished was US$250). I will have a look in 2025 to replace my Gen 2, will be interesting what is available then.

Piros
QLD, 7211 posts
8 Dec 2023 12:20AM
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Another fun day on the Gen2 Max

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Velocicraptor
813 posts
8 Dec 2023 1:53AM
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Piros said..
Another fun day on the Gen2 Max
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Nice man. Curious which mounting position you have on the mast? 15 or 20 cm? Do you like the mounting position or would you do it different? Also, what are dims on that board?

Thanks

Piros
QLD, 7211 posts
8 Dec 2023 7:59AM
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I'm on 20cm which really is good for everything BUT I'm dropping back to a 15cm . The more you use the FD the better you get and start throwing the foil around more. The board is a DC 5-5 x 20 x 55 litres which lets me flat water start right down to 10 to 15% battery , I also have a Sunova Pilot 4-11 x 19-1/2 x 42.5 litres which I'll be dropping back for surfing but still use the DC for downwinds. The larger board also helps start on smaller foils

Piros
QLD, 7211 posts
9 Dec 2023 11:51PM
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Piros
QLD, 7211 posts
16 Dec 2023 8:25PM
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My take on mast position and swing weight .

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Hwy1North
220 posts
17 Dec 2023 11:31AM
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Piros said..
My take on mast position and swing weight .
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Excellent video's Piros. Looks like it's time for a garage sale and a pre-order.

GWatto
QLD, 393 posts
22 Dec 2023 10:45AM
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Just got notified mine has been sent
Haven't been this excited since the missus came home with a French Maids outfit

kobo
NSW, 1107 posts
23 Dec 2023 8:39PM
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Piros said..
My take on mast position and swing weight .
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Had the same problem not being able to slide the mast all the way forward with the Armstrong PM on Sunova DW elite board, the rear screws lined up with the exit slots too. I made some longer Stainless plates to go over the t nuts and "bridge " the exit slot ...problem solved. Will try and post some pictures later but it was an easy fix allowing full movement of the mast.

IvorWindeas
WA, 110 posts
3 Jan 2024 5:29PM
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Hey Piros, I've got a DC blade downwind foilboard and a foil drive max, but can't connect the controller through the board. It connect fine on my prone board. Do u have any connection issue with your DC foil board and the foil drive? Cheers

IvorWindeas
WA, 110 posts
4 Jan 2024 11:15AM
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I've made sure the tracks are stuffed full of foam like it says in the instructional video, But that doesnt help.
As soon as I tilt the board so the battery is out the water the connection comes back, then disappears once board is upright again.

airsail
QLD, 1535 posts
4 Jan 2024 1:24PM
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IvorWindeas said..
I've made sure the tracks are stuffed full of foam like it says in the instructional video, But that doesnt help.
As soon as I tilt the board so the battery is out the water the connection comes back, then disappears once board is upright again.


Ask the question on the Foildrive owners group facebook page, more chance of a reply.

hilly
WA, 7855 posts
4 Jan 2024 11:43AM
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IvorWindeas said..
I've made sure the tracks are stuffed full of foam like it says in the instructional video, But that doesnt help.
As soon as I tilt the board so the battery is out the water the connection comes back, then disappears once board is upright again.


Has it got carbon tracks? This is an issue with Armstrong boards. Solution is to route out a hole in the bottom of the track and fill with resin. Apparently it works but I have not done it. I have had issues with murky water, fine in clear water but if a lot of debris in the water intermittent cutouts which is weird.

IvorWindeas
WA, 110 posts
4 Jan 2024 12:37PM
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hilly said..

IvorWindeas said..
I've made sure the tracks are stuffed full of foam like it says in the instructional video, But that doesnt help.
As soon as I tilt the board so the battery is out the water the connection comes back, then disappears once board is upright again.



Has it got carbon tracks? This is an issue with Armstrong boards. Solution is to route out a hole in the bottom of the track and fill with resin. Apparently it works but I have not done it. I have had issues with murky water, fine in clear water but if a lot of debris in the water intermittent cutouts which is weird.


Thanks. Unsure if the tracks are carbon, but clearly its the board that is blocking the signal. The idea of making a signal window through the board seems sensible but I'd like to find out more before attacking it with a router. The water is clear here, that not the problem. I thought just water on its own blocked the bluetooth, hence the need to put foam in the tracks.

I'll use the wifes facebook to check the foildrive group as I dont have FB.

pitbulldoug
182 posts
4 Jan 2024 10:56PM
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This is a question I had being a FD assist owner a few months back bought approx 2 months before the new Gen came out,what a pisser! Anyway was scratching my head on how signal is transmitted on new FD max through the water from below with no antenna visible on deck to controller as heard of guys trying to make battery boxes incorporated in the board on old FD assist gen and having transmission issues with controller how the heck is it done on new FD max gen with unit submerged in water seems like a issue for intermittent outages waiting to happen or would occur from time to time? Can anyone enlighten a old FD assist greenhorn owner on how FD max gets the signal from unit underwater to controller as we all know the old FD assist had batt box deck mounted with transmission antenna in box how does new FD max get a good signal to controller all ears

Hdip
465 posts
5 Jan 2024 1:09AM
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The signal can go through the foam (air) of your board. Which is why you stuff your tracks with foam too. This allows the signal a path to the motor box. If you touch the controller to your board underwater on a duckdive you can pull the trigger and go for a submarine ride I hear.



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