Select to expand quotePacoo said..
Is anybody using shims in these foils?
I tried the RS1300 in a downwind paddle the other day and could not get up.
On the same day, I could lift an AXIS 1150 a few times.
This was actually my first downwind try, so I guess I should try a bigger foil. Any recommendations in the gofoil line?
It would be one hell of a shim to bridge the gap between those wings.
1300 square cm area, 105cm span and anicelyfoiled leading edge for the GoFoil Vs 1778 square cm area, 115cm span and a fuller leading edge on the Axis.
I believe the closest thing on the GoFoil line would be the EZ1800, a low aspect wing though.
on the other end looks like the AXIS HPS 980 would be comparable to the RS1300
Select to expand quoteRichJam said..
Pacoo swap to the GT line. 1400 or 2200 would be an awesome wing. Re shimming depends on the board and the tail. Sunova board and fts tail haven't needed shimming
TME - when I proned the 1150 I found the same. Although I found it easy to pump and once I got the quick blip cadence I felt I could pump for ages and cover heaps of ground. I didn't love it though. However I winged it a few times this week and it did impress me. I was easily put pacing a mate of a GL120 and a lift 120, super easy to transition from locked in speed runs to turning - totally surprised me as it didn't feel that way when I proned it. So I'll go back to the drawing board and give it another go when the swell drops. I could have easily been on the 1000 having fun but the 1150 was a blast. I'm 95-90kg too.
Going to have a run on a 1300 this week for comparison.
Rich.
Hi Rich,
Thanks for the input. The plan now is to test the rs1300, GL240, GT2200, and AXIs 1150 on the same day doing a downwind.
I will try to shim the tail of the rs1300 to see if I can improve the lift a bit. To be honest I have the feeling that when my skills improve, I will be able to use this one most of the time.
Continuing from what burchas said that is a mighty varied bag of foils you are going to try.
I don't downwind so I'm not trying to tell you anything - but those that have tried the 2200 rave about it for learning to DW. What are you hoping to gain by shimming? Also what tail?
I have heard the PNL can be a good option against a 1300 too.
Juan, picking up 1150 today and I received my 13.5 yesterday. What tail shim are you using? I use the 1.5 shim with the 15" when riding the pnl185.
Thanks!
Select to expand quoteWwr...I have a 1 shim with 13.5 kd tail, short pedestal...that's for prone. For wing, 17" long no shim. I am getting fts14 and ftl20...sound gamechanging.
Sessions 3 and 4 continue to be impressed with 1150. Light wind winging I could fit up with lots of pumping...but switched to gl240 and that was more fun. I am looking forward to a solid wing day to see what she can do. Also a solid prone day...still haven't really experienced much turning
Select to expand quotejuandesooka said..Wwr...I have a 1 shim with 13.5 kd tail, short pedestal...that's for prone. For wing, 17" long no shim. I am getting fts14 and ftl20...sound gamechanging.
Sessions 3 and 4 continue to be impressed with 1150. Light wind winging I could fit up with lots of pumping...but switched to gl240 and that was more fun. I am looking forward to a solid wing day to see what she can do. Also a solid prone day...still haven't really experienced much turning
Tell me more, when you say light wind how light were you able to get the 1150 up? what's your weight?
Any one over 187lbs/85kg able to get up on the 1150 in under 12knots?
3 sessions in so still early to say but I start contemplating if I really need the GT1400 in the quiver
Select to expand quoteburchas said..juandesooka said..Wwr...I have a 1 shim with 13.5 kd tail, short pedestal...that's for prone. For wing, 17" long no shim. I am getting fts14 and ftl20...sound gamechanging.
Sessions 3 and 4 continue to be impressed with 1150. Light wind winging I could fit up with lots of pumping...but switched to gl240 and that was more fun. I am looking forward to a solid wing day to see what she can do. Also a solid prone day...still haven't really experienced much turning
Tell me more, when you say light wind how light were you able to get the 1150 up? what's your weight?
Any one over 187lbs/85kg able to get up on the 1150 in under 12knots?
3 sessions in so still early to say but I start contemplating if I really need the GT1400 in the quiver
At 105kg with a 6m Smik I was up in under 12 knots with the 1150 the other day. I had the 1400 and couldn't really say it had much of an advantage in light wind. The 1150 turns better than the 1400 that is why I went that route. If you look close you can see a ding on the swell.
Select to expand quoteburchas said..Pacoo said..
Is anybody using shims in these foils?
I tried the RS1300 in a downwind paddle the other day and could not get up.
On the same day, I could lift an AXIS 1150 a few times.
This was actually my first downwind try, so I guess I should try a bigger foil. Any recommendations in the gofoil line?
It would be one hell of a shim to bridge the gap between those wings.
1300 square cm area, 105cm span and anicelyfoiled leading edge for the GoFoil Vs 1778 square cm area, 115cm span and a fuller leading edge on the Axis.
I believe the closest thing on the GoFoil line would be the EZ1800, a low aspect wing though.
on the other end looks like the AXIS HPS 980 would be comparable to the RS1300
Hi Bruchas,
I was not pretending to match the 1150, just improve a bit the lift of the 1300.
I guess GL240 is closer looking to the Axis 1150, in the gofoil range; but the GL240 is not as forgiving as the RS in choppy seas.
It will be great to have some downwind feedback on the GT2200.
Select to expand quotePacoo said..burchas said..Pacoo said..
Is anybody using shims in these foils?
I tried the RS1300 in a downwind paddle the other day and could not get up.
On the same day, I could lift an AXIS 1150 a few times.
This was actually my first downwind try, so I guess I should try a bigger foil. Any recommendations in the gofoil line?
It would be one hell of a shim to bridge the gap between those wings.
1300 square cm area, 105cm span and anicelyfoiled leading edge for the GoFoil Vs 1778 square cm area, 115cm span and a fuller leading edge on the Axis.
I believe the closest thing on the GoFoil line would be the EZ1800, a low aspect wing though.
on the other end looks like the AXIS HPS 980 would be comparable to the RS1300
Hi Bruchas,
I was not pretending to match the 1150, just improve a bit the lift of the 1300.
I guess GL240 is closer looking to the Axis 1150, in the gofoil range; but the GL240 is not as forgiving as the RS in choppy seas.
It will be great to have some downwind feedback on the GT2200.
Pacoo, I was just thinking out loud reciting numbers. The Axis 1150 is a beast of a wing and my friend progressed on it
fairly fast. Seems like going with the GT2200 is a step back in progression if you are consistently able to get up on the Axis 1150.
I have the Axis 1010 @1430cm2 which the size down from the 1150, it's also a beast of a wing with aggressive lift.
I run it against my GT1400 and it's much more get up and go foil but feels like an elephant in the water in comparison.
Thinking out loud I would try going down to the 1010 to bridge the gap between the Axis1150 and the RS1300.
I got mine used for $300 so not a big investment to have foil that I use as a reference and a baseline to measure
my other foil by.
But winging my new RS1150 I totally understand why you're eager to ride the RS1300.
As for feedback about the GT2200. Zane Westwood talked about his downwind progression on the Casey Catch Up
podcast and he started on that wing before going down to the RS1300. Worth tuning in.
Select to expand quotehilly said..burchas said..juandesooka said..Wwr...I have a 1 shim with 13.5 kd tail, short pedestal...that's for prone. For wing, 17" long no shim. I am getting fts14 and ftl20...sound gamechanging.
Sessions 3 and 4 continue to be impressed with 1150. Light wind winging I could fit up with lots of pumping...but switched to gl240 and that was more fun. I am looking forward to a solid wing day to see what she can do. Also a solid prone day...still haven't really experienced much turning
Tell me more, when you say light wind how light were you able to get the 1150 up? what's your weight?
Any one over 187lbs/85kg able to get up on the 1150 in under 12knots?
3 sessions in so still early to say but I start contemplating if I really need the GT1400 in the quiver
At 105kg with a 6m Smik I was up in under 12 knots with the 1150 the other day. I had the 1400 and couldn't really say it had much of an advantage in light wind. The 1150 turns better than the 1400 that is why I went that route. If you look close you can see a ding on the swell.
Thanks Hilly, you are making it much easier for me to dump the GT1400. I couldn't detect a major difference between
the two on the low end (very limited trials though) but on the high end the RS1150 was much more fun.
Select to expand quoteburchas said..juandesooka said..Wwr...I have a 1 shim with 13.5 kd tail, short pedestal...that's for prone. For wing, 17" long no shim. I am getting fts14 and ftl20...sound gamechanging.
Sessions 3 and 4 continue to be impressed with 1150. Light wind winging I could fit up with lots of pumping...but switched to gl240 and that was more fun. I am looking forward to a solid wing day to see what she can do. Also a solid prone day...still haven't really experienced much turning
Tell me more, when you say light wind how light were you able to get the 1150 up? what's your weight?
Any one over 187lbs/85kg able to get up on the 1150 in under 12knots?
3 sessions in so still early to say but I start contemplating if I really need the GT1400 in the quiver
My brief RS1150 wing attempt was in estimated 12-14kt dropping wind, gusty, holey. I could get up and riding with the 1150 and a 6m, but it required intensive pumping and might take a minute to find a puff. Once up I could stay up, which is a good sign. But switching to the trusty GL240, I could quickly get up in 1 or 2 pumps -- and I prefer that in surf, as that's the slight margin for missing the set wave or possibly getting caught inside. Not a diss at all for the 1150, as it is going to be my go-to in all powered conditions -- just saying I am not getting rid of my light wind gear. That day it dropped even further to where I couldn't pump up the 240, and my kiter friend couldn't make his 17m work either....at that point it's probably 8kt
[general comment: I don't know if it's our 5mm wetsuits, cold water, less salinity, crappier wind, or maybe just we all suck, but the experiences I read on all the forums about light wind performance just don't seem to translate around here. Bigger wings, bigger foils, and bigger boards are all the norm....so take my experiences with a grain of salt]
Select to expand quoteAt 105kg with a 6m Smik I was up in under 12 knots with the 1150 the other day. I had the 1400 and couldn't really say it had much of an advantage in light wind. The 1150 turns better than the 1400 that is why I went that route. If you look close you can see a ding on the swell.
Not a chance I could get up in 10-12knots in Sydney wind and I'm about the same weight. Perhaps your skill is better than mine, or the WA wind is stronger and more consistent, or you have wave assist to get on foil, or your board is much larger than mine, or a combination of all of the above.
With the GT1400 I've used it in pretty light conditions where the RS1150 would've been so much hard work to get on foil. In lighter wind, you can't really turn hard or carve fast anyway on flat water, more about just being on foil. It's not that bad at turning for a big foil.
Select to expand quotenorth_kiter said..Not a chance I could get up in 10-12knots in Sydney wind and I'm about the same weight. Perhaps your skill is better than mine, or the WA wind is stronger and more consistent, or you have wave assist to get on foil, or your board is much larger than mine, or a combination of all of the above.
Used a 125l sup and pumped like a demon when a gust came. Do not fall off in the gybe, had to hold the wing up and turn on a swell. Select to expand quotenorth_kiter said..With the GT1400 I've used it in pretty light conditions where the RS1150 would've been so much hard work to get on foil. In lighter wind, you can't really turn hard or carve fast anyway on flat water, more about just being on foil. It's not that bad at turning for a big foil.
GT1400 is slightly easier to get up and glides for ages in turns but feels slow compared to the RS. I just like the speed of the 1150 and the sharper turning.
Select to expand quotehilly said..north_kiter said..Not a chance I could get up in 10-12knots in Sydney wind and I'm about the same weight. Perhaps your skill is better than mine, or the WA wind is stronger and more consistent, or you have wave assist to get on foil, or your board is much larger than mine, or a combination of all of the above.
Used a 125l sup and pumped like a demon when a gust came. Do not fall off in the gybe, had to hold the wing up and turn on a swell. north_kiter said..With the GT1400 I've used it in pretty light conditions where the RS1150 would've been so much hard work to get on foil. In lighter wind, you can't really turn hard or carve fast anyway on flat water, more about just being on foil. It's not that bad at turning for a big foil.
GT1400 is slightly easier to get up and glides for ages in turns but feels slow compared to the RS. I just like the speed of the 1150 and the sharper turning.
I was on a 2022 5'4 Fanatic pink 95L.
I need to wear a GPS watch to determine how much slower than RS, making the comparison less subjective.
I was actually thinking about trying the GT1250 vs GT1400 as a light wind option...it would turn better, but less lift
Select to expand quotenorth_kiter said..hilly said..north_kiter said..Not a chance I could get up in 10-12knots in Sydney wind and I'm about the same weight. Perhaps your skill is better than mine, or the WA wind is stronger and more consistent, or you have wave assist to get on foil, or your board is much larger than mine, or a combination of all of the above.
Used a 125l sup and pumped like a demon when a gust came. Do not fall off in the gybe, had to hold the wing up and turn on a swell. north_kiter said..With the GT1400 I've used it in pretty light conditions where the RS1150 would've been so much hard work to get on foil. In lighter wind, you can't really turn hard or carve fast anyway on flat water, more about just being on foil. It's not that bad at turning for a big foil.
GT1400 is slightly easier to get up and glides for ages in turns but feels slow compared to the RS. I just like the speed of the 1150 and the sharper turning.
I was on a 2022 5'4 Fanatic pink 95L.
I need to wear a GPS watch to determine how much slower than RS, making the comparison less subjective.
I was actually thinking about trying the GT1250 vs GT1400 as a light wind option...it would turn better, but less lift
When on the GT1400 my strava average speed was a couple of ks slower and top speed was down as well compared to 1150. RS1000 is faster again. For a big foil the GT1400 turns well.
The RS being more HA has better lift so the GT1250 might not give you the light wind performance you need.
I've done 10-12 on the 1150 - just. Windsurf Foiler's were just going so it was legit light. Biggest difference to say a 190 was I got board speed this foil speed before attempting the pump. I need to as dragging 90kg a meter of mast and a sinker board I don't want to blow the start. I would say though that the 1150 has a lower and more predictable stall that the 190.
The upper end of both foil would be similar but the 1150 would carry more speed for longer.
Having no idea what the axis foils look like I can't comment but I know the 2200 isn't a slow speed foil. It's a legit DW foil that can easily match the speed of the ocean swells. It's just big so you have a massive margin of error so more time on foil less time paddling up, or trying to. If I was going to try the DW paddling my gear would look like this;
Gt2200
Gt1400
Rs1150
Rs1300
Rich
Select to expand quoteRichJam said..
I've done 10-12 on the 1150 - just. Windsurf Foiler's were just going so it was legit light. Biggest difference to say a 190 was I got board speed this foil speed before attempting the pump. I need to as dragging 90kg a meter of mast and a sinker board I don't want to blow the start. I would say though that the 1150 has a lower and more predictable stall that the 190.
The upper end of both foil would be similar but the 1150 would carry more speed for longer.
Having no idea what the axis foils look like I can't comment but I know the 2200 isn't a slow speed foil. It's a legit DW foil that can easily match the speed of the ocean swells. It's just big so you have a massive margin of error so more time on foil less time paddling up, or trying to. If I was going to try the DW paddling my gear would look like this;
Gt2200
Gt1400
Rs1150
Rs1300
Rich
Hi Rich,
Thanks for the information.
What about overfoiling on the GT2200? does it handle the errors as the RS line?
Another question, why are you putting the RS1150 in front of the rs1300?
Note: overfoiling(I don't know if this is the right term, but I'm referring to when the wing comes out of the water)
I've been using the GT2200 for downwind SUP for the past two months. I'm 85kg. It by far the easiest and most forgiving foil I've used for SUP DW to date. Performance wise it has a great speed range. Stall speed is close to zero. Overfoiling is not a problem, it recovers very well. Speed wise it is not the fastest but does 3.15min/km comfortably. I've used the GT2200 in 10-30knots. I now have the RS1150 as my step down wing. Board choice makes a big difference also. If you can go below 25" wide then you'll be up and flying way faster.
Yeah I'm winging in sketchy Sydney winds, I think the biggest difference between our setup @Hilly is the big board with the long water line length and volume which promotes planning, not like a -10L short 5'4 which requires a pump or two to get nose out, but under 15knot I think my goto is the GT1400 (in Sydney with no wave assist)
I might try a front foot strap to assist in pumping up.
Select to expand quotebaldy123 said..
I've been using the GT2200 for downwind SUP for the past two months. I'm 85kg. It by far the easiest and most forgiving foil I've used for SUP DW to date. Performance wise it has a great speed range. Stall speed is close to zero. Overfoiling is not a problem, it recovers very well. Speed wise it is not the fastest but does 3.15min/km comfortably. I've used the GT2200 in 10-30knots. I now have the RS1150 as my step down wing. Board choice makes a big difference also. If you can go below 25" wide then you'll be up and flying way faster.
Thanks, that is great feedback. I ordered the gt2200 today. It was this or the rs1000, and summer is approaching.
I keep been surprised that nobody is using the rs1300, I have been using this as my everyday foil and works awesome. For me at 80 kg, one foil quiver for supfoil and winging.
Select to expand quotebaldy123 said..
I've been using the GT2200 for downwind SUP for the past two months. I'm 85kg. It by far the easiest and most forgiving foil I've used for SUP DW to date. Performance wise it has a great speed range. Stall speed is close to zero. Overfoiling is not a problem, it recovers very well. Speed wise it is not the fastest but does 3.15min/km comfortably. I've used the GT2200 in 10-30knots. I now have the RS1150 as my step down wing. Board choice makes a big difference also. If you can go below 25" wide then you'll be up and flying way faster.
Nice! Are you using the ftl 20"?
Select to expand quotejuandesooka said..
James Casey announced he was leaving the brand a few weeks ago "A big thank you to the Go Foil family for an amazing five and a bit years. Truly been an honour to work with @alexaguera151 and the rest of the @gofoil team ?? New adventures await for 2022"
That sounds like a new biz deal in the works, but it's surprising no announcement since. Does raise the question if he is chasing new/different gear vs getting paid? Chasing the $ is understandable, but if he's chasing the gear, that's a pretty big blow to GF in seeding doubt. I believe his social media presence has been a single major driver of the new popularity of the new gear. When I see him doing what he does, it gives me hope on what's possible. That potential is bolstered by the user reports on here. But it's fragile, as rationally I know that JC would rip on anything and I really don't know who any of you are and I haven't actually witnessed your claims. 
So, enticing me to spend a few $000 to chase a new dream has a complicated psychology ... as much as I hate to admit it, social media influencers are at the top of that pyramid.
One of my frustrations over the past year has been seeing buddies get insane glide, mainly on axis gear, and I am winging side by side but not feeling it. I really REALLY want to feel the same froth as this guy:
"This is ridiculous, you can ride nothing with this thing".
I remain stoked on aspects of my GF gear, but I've not really felt that glide forever feeling. I am so much hoping the RS with FT tail is the answer .... desperately seeking that "holy crap WOW". 
Juan,
Just go get the wing bro.
Cheers,
Everyone
Select to expand quotehilly said..
When on the GT1400 my strava average speed was a couple of ks slower and top speed was down as well compared to 1150. RS1000 is faster again. For a big foil the GT1400 turns well.
The RS being more HA has better lift so the GT1250 might not give you the light wind performance you need.
Yeah I got the RS1000 for days over 20+ knots, RS1150 for 15-20knots, and the GT1400 for under 15knots. I was thinking about the GT1250 as will be similar to the HS1250, but no ventilation issues
Thanks for chiming in Baldy. You are much better are replying since you have used these wings. Baldy is running then 14.5 FTL
Over foiling really isn't much of an issue on these new wings. Marketing hype that works in the real world.
I put the 1300 after the 1150 as I assumed it may be a harder wing to paddle up, asking someone that knows more than me I can say I have learnt the error of ways. 1300 is apparently a really good wing after day the GT2200.
Attempted my first ever dockstarts today. 1150 and 12.5 FTS. One successful long pump run out around a bouy and back to the shore, I felt like I could have gone forever. Pump machine.
Rich.
220 lbs prone only
So I grabbed the FTL 12.5 and finally got a session on the 1000 and the 1150. Compared to my massively shimmed short pedestal and g10 tail it was a little slower and more stable with the 1000, not unwelcome but I wouldn't say it made a big positive difference. I'd say the 1000 it was over winged in the back, had some pumps drop out from too much back wing causing interruption of the front. Probably grab a short when available.
It really made the 1150 shine, finally got me back to my "cruising speed" pump - the pump pump glide where I get that break for a second to stretch out the cardio. Really made a big difference letting me be more aggressive than the 1000 just by not being so gassed all the time from pumping. Relaxed surfing is better surfing.
TME - that's awesome work. I've been thinking about the longer tails about recently but since I've committed to the FTS I'll make it work.
The 1150 is a pump machine.
Keep the feedback coming boys. Super interested to see how people get the most out of various setups.
Rich
Rode the 1150 with a FTL20 in 20knts. It was stable and fast but felt it was tad too much tail since the foil seemed to want to stay close to the surface.
Rode the pnl with the FTL20 in 15-20 and it felt really nice.
Intermediate level 95 kg
What are people thinking about mast length with the rs series. Mostly winging + sup foiling. 32.5 or 36.5? Thanks
Select to expand quoteFird said..What are people thinking about mast length with the rs series. Mostly winging + sup foiling. 32.5 or 36.5? Thanks
I'm 70kg liking:
13.5 FTS RS1000 / 32 mast prone &
13.5 FTL RS1150 / 32 mast sub 15 knots and RS1000 above. Feels like the longer fuse is more forgiving on the wing and I'm not really losing anything because my turns on the wing not all that tight anyway. (Yet to try FTL on the 1000.)
@Fire, To me mast length is a function of conditions, not the foil, although perhaps faster foils will work better for longer mast. I fine when the swell is a bit random and also short period im wanting a longer mast to give more error band between breaching and touching down, as the wind increase even more so, but 32 is what I got:). 32 is the shortest I would ever want.
I'm not there yet but based on all our local 'chargers', as guys are progressing their skills they are going longer for both prone and wing (36 or 40)
I guess the down side of say the 36 would
be slightly more drag until you are up n foiling. Maybe a consideration for Sup, dunno.
You got me thinking might try and track down a 36! Dammit I had resolved to $top $pending $o much on foils
For winging only, I ended up with two masts and use both with the RS1000/RS1150/GT1400
32" - for the majority of sessions say 80% of the time
36" - for those high wind days >= 20knts where the wind swell is high, just prevents lots of accidental board slaps and near breaches/crashes.
My preferred mast length is 85-87cm, then you only need one mast IMO, but GF don't make them in that size.
