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Created by RichJam > 9 months ago, 3 Dec 2021
TooMuchEpoxy
419 posts
16 Mar 2022 2:10AM
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11.5 Long felt great today with the 1150. Little reef rash gave me the courage to dial it back with the sander


db541
65 posts
16 Mar 2022 9:51AM
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TooMuchEpoxy said..
11.5 Long felt great today with the 1150. Little reef rash gave me the courage to dial it back with the sander



Sweet! Ordered 12.5 FTL today to play around w the other tails.

hilly
WA, 7857 posts
17 Mar 2022 1:06PM
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Nice riding on the RS100 here www.instagram.com/tv/CbLbT8buj3V/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

burchas
338 posts
17 Mar 2022 8:30PM
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Computer Generated footage
www.instagram.com/tv/CaquagvjpMR/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

pohaku
NSW, 882 posts
18 Mar 2022 9:16AM
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Hahaha!

burchas
338 posts
18 Mar 2022 7:08AM
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pohaku said..




Hahaha!


Kidding aside. A new addition to the lineup that does not appear on the foil spec page. Specs anyone?

Gorgo
VIC, 5097 posts
18 Mar 2022 10:11AM
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So where do we find out about the RS850? The web sites show an RS650 but I can't see an 850. It could be a good size to go with my RS1150.

hilly
WA, 7857 posts
18 Mar 2022 9:11AM
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Gorgo said..
So where do we find out about the RS850? The web sites show an RS650 but I can't see an 850. It could be a good size to go with my RS1150.


It is some time away I would suggest, especially with manufacturing delays occurring now.

pohaku
NSW, 882 posts
18 Mar 2022 2:53PM
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Gorgo said..
So where do we find out about the RS850? The web sites show an RS650 but I can't see an 850. It could be a good size to go with my RS1150.


RS850 won't be here for a long time. Feel free to to go on my pre order list.

RichJam
WA, 237 posts
19 Mar 2022 8:50AM
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Bugger this RS range I'm going full EZ.


Every time I pull out the 1600 I'm yet again amazed. After winging it and having a fantastic time on it I was left with the impression that whilst it was fun and super turnable it was slow. TBE it's a beginner wing. In the back of my mind I wondered if it would be any good at pumping.


Well fast forward a few weeks and I find myself on the swan river with both the 1150 and 1400 and 14.5 FTS out on demo. Options are the 1000 or the 1600 - both with the 12.5 FTS for dockstarts.


Now I've only done this 3 times, probably 50+ attempts to one success on the 1150. Was expecting the 1600 to be easier but a PIA to pump. Boy was I in for a surprise. First start of the session and I kept my hair dry. After about 3 more attempts I was up and going. The 1600 is an absolute weapon. Was actually very pleasant to pump and amazingly it is fast. Lots of projection on the pump and easy to achieve the 1-2-glide 1 - 2-glide rhythm. After the initial success my mate suggested some challenges - we were out around bouys and boats and back to the dock - he won with a few 500+m runs but I was managing about 300-400m runs. He was running a lift 170 and was absolutely amazed by the speed and glide of the Ez1600. I came in completely gassed with a massive massive smile on my dial


I know most of us would perceive ourselves to be past a wing like this. I know I did. However it's proving itself to be a very fun versatile and easy to use foil with a massive performance envelope.


Once again GoFoil have smashed my expectations on what a foil can and should do.


Keep Frothing


Rich

pohaku
NSW, 882 posts
20 Mar 2022 7:58PM
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Farrkkk. Check this turn www.instagram.com/p/CbUaJIIFL1p/?hl=en

hilly
WA, 7857 posts
20 Mar 2022 6:59PM
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pohaku said..
Farrkkk. Check this turn www.instagram.com/p/CbUaJIIFL1p/?hl=en


Just saw that. Yes fark

juandesooka
615 posts
22 Mar 2022 2:25AM
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Extending the longest thread in seabreeze history ... a few more sessions under my belt with RS1150 with a few notes on stab combos that may help others, or at least amuse with a comedy of errors.

RS1150 with KD13.5 stab was a full-on foilgasm. So good it was stupid, as good as surf foiling has felt. Then I lost my KD in the rocks.

Tried it buddy's 14.5 flip tip instead: holy crap, like I forgot how to foil, struggling to keep the nose up....turns out I had stab upside down.

Then tried it my wing go-to, 17'5 long flip tip. Just didn't feel right, worked ok though. Winging was fine.

Then got my long awaited FT 14.5....awaiting the FROTH-WOW I've been reading so much about....and kinda not really. Again, it worked, but didn't have the magic the KD provided. Now self-doubt...everyone else is frothing out, do I suck? Have I forgotten how to foil again? Maybe time to go back to supping and forget this frustration?

Had a thought....never actually seen a FT in person, maybe do some googling....quickly confirmed, they sent me the FTL14.5 and not the FTS14.5! Do the few inches matter? I think this will make a massive difference at the top end. The FTS is on the way, the saga continues, kinda relieved that it's not just me, and really stoked to get it sorted.

SupMaui
47 posts
23 Mar 2022 1:17PM
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I have both the Fts 14and the Ftl 14
I have only used the short one so far. I prone and DW. I think you will enjoy the Fts14 but I haven't tried a KD yet.

RichJam
WA, 237 posts
24 Mar 2022 9:12AM
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FTL vs FTS - massive massive difference. The agility and manoeuvrability is totally lost on the L. You gain a heap of stability and control but for proning the S is the way. Now I'm not saying this was you but you did mount it the correct way on the bottom? I've seen it wrong and it is terrible in that orientation.

Finally managed a tow session on the 650/12.5 FTL - holy hell this thing is mindblowingly awesome. We had swell 3m/13s so about 6-8' and this combo was fast, manoeuvrable and incredibly easy to use. The turns were off the hook. Every wave ended with me being absolutely cooked and legs pure jelly. My only complaint would be that this setup was slightly jittery if just going straight. Locked and loaded in turns and redirections it was amazing so I just cranked more turns.


I think I'll try the Gt750 next and experiment with the L ped and a 12.5 flip tip

Footage was all terrible as I had the GP On my
helmet.


Frothing.

Rich.





RichJam
WA, 237 posts
25 Mar 2022 10:08AM
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I changed too many variables at once.
70cm plate mast 1300 and 12.5 tail.
All left feet.
Lots of glide but wasn't the best first session. Damn a small mast is harder than I thought.




RichJam
WA, 237 posts
28 Mar 2022 2:07PM
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Back on the big mast yesterday for some truly spectacular winging in the waves.
GoFoil Rs1000 is an amazing foil. Was around the 2.5m mark yesterday and cross off. Damn fun. 1m mast certainly helps with the amount of chop that was up the face.

J_foil
NSW, 128 posts
29 Mar 2022 7:57PM
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Just got in from a prone session on the RS1150 FTS14.5 32.5 mast, 4-6 Raptor, Im 70kg. I have been struggling lately and could not work out why; tonight I tried pushing the mast further back in the track and it's like a different setup, it's come alive and I'm riding with heaps more speed, stability and confidence. I think I'm able to get my weight forward for the down motion of the pump and generate more speed through a more purposeful down motion. Anyway thought I would share in case anyone is game to try mast further back for more speed (and glide) on this foil. All of a sudden I was just able to stand there and glide for extended moments between pumps. Sounds counter intuitive because previously I have come forward to find a sweet spot this time I had to go quite a way back.

My prone board is pretty light (2.6kg) I think the reason it helped me so much is that the RS likes a bit of nose down mass if you want to generate more speed. Of course it's going to be different for other board setups. The RS froth continues .

juandesooka
615 posts
30 Mar 2022 2:04AM
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Ju_foil said..
All of a sudden I was just able to stand there and glide for extended moments between pumps. .... The RS froth continues .


Thanks for that. I will try moving the mast further back, see how it feels.
I have been amazed by how much difference the stab makes, which I know is what everyone is always saying, but I've not yet felt it so dramatically. The RS1150 went from "OMG this is insane" to "meh decent" to "this doesn't really work". Point being, the fine tuning really matters.

I just picked up my FTS14.5, really looking forward to getting it in the water, hope it's a WOW like the KD was before I lost it.

RichJam
WA, 237 posts
2 Apr 2022 8:08AM
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Any luck with the Tail John?

juandesooka
615 posts
2 Apr 2022 1:30PM
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Tomorrow is go time hopefully!

Pacey
WA, 525 posts
2 Apr 2022 6:16PM
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After reading all the discussion on this and Hilly's thread about the RS foils I decided to give them a try for winging, as I haven't been happy with the HA Armstrong wings I have owned or tried. I got a demo setup from the Standup Shop with both an RS 1300 and RS 1150 and a FTL 14.5, however could only move the mast base back about an inch from the Armstrong position on my board as my tracks had been installed with the Armstrong foils in mind.

Went out in 18-20 knots at Pt Walter, got up on foil and was pretty much out of control immediately with way too much front foot pressure. I had little scope to adapt as I use front footstraps, so my body position is fairly fixed. Came back and moved my straps forward 2" and went back out, better control but only by bringing my rear foot well forward once up on foil. Went back in, switched to the 1150, surprisingly easy to get on foil, slightly better control but still too much front foot pressure. Went home pretty discouraged, but on the way stopped in at the standup shop and asked if they had a FTS 14.5 tail that I could try the next day, which they did.

Came back the next day and went out with the short tail, what a difference! Still some pretty positive front foot pressure, but this time quite controllable. Foil is super nice, gets up easily for my 95kg, very manoeuvrable, not overly pitch sensitive, no unexpected ventilation or breaches, goes upwind really well and has a surprisingly low stall speed and gentle stall. A real pleasure to sail considering I was expecting something temperamental like the Armstrong HA foils.

Need to get more time on it, preferably with a board that has tracks that are further back, but so far quite impressed.

hilly
WA, 7857 posts
2 Apr 2022 6:52PM
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Pacey said.. surprisingly low stall speed and gentle stall. A real pleasure to sail considering I was expecting something temperamental like the Armstrong HA foils.



They stay up for ever, I could push through all the Armie HA wings. They kept dipping down, very annoying.


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Need to get more time on it, preferably with a board that has tracks that are further back, but so far quite impressed.



The funny thing is when you lose the Armie back foot muscle memory you start moving them forward. Feels weird to start with.

Try the GT range as well for waves.

north_kiter
NSW, 233 posts
2 Apr 2022 9:54PM
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Nice one @Pacey. I went from sabfoil-->armie-->gofoil and best move I ever made. Once you get use to GF breaches are a non issue and can recover from almost anything, even full foil breaches.

I'm 105kg and my favourite setup is RS1000/FTS14.5 when it's > 20+knots. I use Fanatic 95L and mast at back of track is perfect, very little front foot pressure and very agile due to small width, but with the RS1150 there is more front foot pressure > 20+knots. It's so important winging to tweak your gear to the conditions IMO. The GT1250 is a great foil too < 20 knots, and then the GT1400 for light wind combined with the FTL14.5 works great.

juandesooka
615 posts
3 Apr 2022 9:32AM
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Replying to rich's question...with the fts14.5, the magic is back with rs1150. Man o man what a fun combo.

Though the waves were a little juicier than usual and I felt I was just barely hanging on at times, speed approaching out of control. I can see how the rs1000 and 12.5 woukd be amazing in that situation. But not gonna shell out another $1500 just yet ;-)

I got a nl130 too cheap to resist....i will try that as a step up first


RichJam
WA, 237 posts
3 Apr 2022 6:52PM
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Great work Pacey. I find the FTL tails great but a bit too much stability for most normal riding. Dropping to the 12.5 slightly different story


John - great news mate. You'll love the 130, especially when it's windy.

RichJam
WA, 237 posts
5 Apr 2022 5:34PM
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Holy**** - took the 1000/14.5S for a run today.

Been on everything else recently. Wow, from a pumping, turning and just having a heap of fun point this thing is still my favourite. Can't believe I went away from it for soo long.

Feeling the froth again for sure.

Rich

RichJam
WA, 237 posts
5 Apr 2022 5:36PM
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juandesooka said..





Replying to rich's question...with the fts14.5, the magic is back with rs1150. Man o man what a fun combo.



Though the waves were a little juicier than usual and I felt I was just barely hanging on at times, speed approaching out of control. I can see how the rs1000 and 12.5 woukd be amazing in that situation. But not gonna shell out another $1500 just yet ;-)



I got a nl130 too cheap to resist....i will try that as a step up first





Oh John, the 1000 loves the 14.5S.

Whilst the 12.5 is an awesome tail, I find for me the 14.5 is the best on the 1000.

hilly
WA, 7857 posts
5 Apr 2022 6:43PM
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Not so sure for wingding I agree with the guy who has sniffed too much epoxy the long tail is better

pohaku
NSW, 882 posts
6 Apr 2022 7:18AM
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Went for my 2nd wing ding in the surf last Friday in nuking winds. Now to set the record wing ding is my last resort for foiling. It's the thing I'll choose last haha. Coming from only using the 2200 and 1800 on ding. Went to the RS1150 & 14.5 FTL. using GoFoil 4.5m (put the wing tip through the canopy on the way through the shorey) still worked! Straight up and off. Was epic. The 1150 is super versatile. Iv had it up to 49kmh downwinding in large seas. Ride it daily on prone and now reconsidering as a ding wing. Oh and good news boxes of them are being sent to Oz any day now. Just waiting on eta



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