Select to expand quotePTWoody said..SP said..PTWoody said..
Just last weekend, I witnessed an angry old fart on a long board grab and flip the board of one of our SUP crew while they were both on the same wave. Granted the SUP surfer did technically drop in but this is a party wave location that is 95% SUP, and this long boarder came from way out the back linking a wave from off the point - good for him that he managed to catch such a long ride.
My only point is this - you can't go around accusing SUPs of being big and dangerous, and then do something as potentially hazardous as flipping a 10'+ board when it is on the wave right next to you. How many ways could that board roll over and hit you hard or impale you with a fin? Karma practically demands it.
So surfer flips another surfer off that blatantly dropped in after he has been up and riding for plenty of time for the other bloke to see him and you think he is in the wrong..
Therein lies the problem..
Rule 1 of surfing..
Someone on wave.. DON't EVEN PADDLE FOR IT..
Not condoning grabbing the bloke but if people can't even show the most basic and well known of courtesy / etiquette then what so you expect.. The craft is irrelevant, people attitudes is what needs to change
You might need to look up the word "granted". I clearly acknowledged the second guy was in the wrong. Technically. But when every wave is shared happily in this specific location, it's a bit rich trying to enforce rules that don't apply here.
Anyhow, first guy loses moral high ground relative to "danger" when he has no consideration for his own or anyone else's safety is the simple point I was making.
Gee someone gets grumpy when opinons differ from his..
why would i need to look it up, you admitted he is in the wrong then went on to justify why it was ok. i offered my opinion as to why it was against the commonly accepted etiquette of surfing and not ok...
It may be common at that location but obviously it wasn't ok to the bloke on the longboard. I would as I said not even paddle for a wave if someone is one it unless they said Go ..
As for safety. how close was he taking of the bloke on the lb if the bloke could put both hands on the rail and flip him? Pretty close I'd guess. so how is that fitting your "Anyhow, first guy loses moral high ground relative to "danger" when he has no consideration for his own or anyone else's safety is the simple point I was making."
Maybe the simple and safest point is don't take off in front of people close enough that they can grab your board and flip you.
And you missed my main point.
"Not condoning grabbing the bloke but if people can't even show the most basic and well known of courtesy / etiquette then what so you expect.. The craft is irrelevant, people attitudes is what needs to change"
And remember, surfing is fun, enjoy it... and don't ruin the enjoyment of others...
Stay Grumpy, I'm done replying.
I am now officially inspired
I really need to get off my 4'11 and come up with a better way to pump up and down through the white wash
I think I have a way to be the pronest of the prone
It brings me back to a conversation I had with Laird back in 99 in the fields of Maui.
While discussing the intricacies of riding mountains Laird had mentioned that to call one self a true water man one had to master all crafts possible in the line up.
This meant that the 4'11 had to go
Keeping in mind Lairds advice I need to improvise to keep ahead of the crowds.
I had another light bulb moment while being served my caramel soy latte. The lady behind the counter mentioned that I haven't made much use of my brooker v12 tinny lately and that my waterman shirt was starting to fade.
Thats it, time to get started
Putting all pieces of the puzzle together I have decided to convert my beloved tinny into tinny foil.
I plan to install a foil on the under side of the tinny and extend my Yamaha enduro 40 hP engine so I can ride through the dead sections of those pesky 1 to 2 ft close outs that I often see at Trigg point.
I was also given an old pair of snow board boots that Laird stole off Gerry Lopez that I plan to bolt down in the centre of my tinny. This should ensure maximum stability on take off.
Not sure if I need a sea sweeper broom stick but time will tell. Maybe I can source a length of carbon fibre conduit from Kai Lenny next time I'm in Maui.
Cant wait for the weekend
I also haven't decided if I'm calling my new pursuit Tinny Foil or just Tin Foil but one things for sure. Your not going to out prone old Tim Kay.
See you in the line up.
Hey TK keep us posted, be great to see it in action. Although it's going to be hard to beat Robbie Maddison, try it though please.
So this fred was started May the forf.
So in walks doof vader and buddies.
Tooo much coincidence, we've all been set up and fell into the trap of the darkside.
Oh well, may be next year more vigilant we will be.
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So this fred was started May the forf.
So in walks doof vader and buddies.
Tooo much coincidence, we've all been set up and fell into the trap of the darkside.
Oh well, may be next year more vigilant we will be.
What would Laird do? We need our Savior to step in and save us
Select to expand quoteSP said..PTWoody said..SP said..PTWoody said..
Just last weekend, I witnessed an angry old fart on a long board grab and flip the board of one of our SUP crew while they were both on the same wave. Granted the SUP surfer did technically drop in but this is a party wave location that is 95% SUP, and this long boarder came from way out the back linking a wave from off the point - good for him that he managed to catch such a long ride.
My only point is this - you can't go around accusing SUPs of being big and dangerous, and then do something as potentially hazardous as flipping a 10'+ board when it is on the wave right next to you. How many ways could that board roll over and hit you hard or impale you with a fin? Karma practically demands it.
So surfer flips another surfer off that blatantly dropped in after he has been up and riding for plenty of time for the other bloke to see him and you think he is in the wrong..
Therein lies the problem..
Rule 1 of surfing..
Someone on wave.. DON't EVEN PADDLE FOR IT..
Not condoning grabbing the bloke but if people can't even show the most basic and well known of courtesy / etiquette then what so you expect.. The craft is irrelevant, people attitudes is what needs to change
You might need to look up the word "granted". I clearly acknowledged the second guy was in the wrong. Technically. But when every wave is shared happily in this specific location, it's a bit rich trying to enforce rules that don't apply here.
Anyhow, first guy loses moral high ground relative to "danger" when he has no consideration for his own or anyone else's safety is the simple point I was making.
Gee someone gets grumpy when opinons differ from his..
why would i need to look it up, you admitted he is in the wrong then went on to justify why it was ok. i offered my opinion as to why it was against the commonly accepted etiquette of surfing and not ok...
It may be common at that location but obviously it wasn't ok to the bloke on the longboard. I would as I said not even paddle for a wave if someone is one it unless they said Go ..
As for safety. how close was he taking of the bloke on the lb if the bloke could put both hands on the rail and flip him? Pretty close I'd guess. so how is that fitting your "Anyhow, first guy loses moral high ground relative to "danger" when he has no consideration for his own or anyone else's safety is the simple point I was making."
Maybe the simple and safest point is don't take off in front of people close enough that they can grab your board and flip you.
And you missed my main point.
"Not condoning grabbing the bloke but if people can't even show the most basic and well known of courtesy / etiquette then what so you expect.. The craft is irrelevant, people attitudes is what needs to change"
And remember, surfing is fun, enjoy it... and don't ruin the enjoyment of others...
Stay Grumpy, I'm done replying.
Look I don't want to contribute too much more to your "grumpiness" and I agree, more than anything else, this is all supposed to be fun. But at the end of the day, your point about not condoning grabbing the bloke is the one that I think holds true and I respect that you said that. The thing is, if the guy in the wrong was being a serial pest, then I could understand how this might make somebody angry. But when it happens for the first time, it might just be the decent and civilised thing to talk to the guy and let him know rather than making violence the first response. It's common courtesy / etiquette that surely supersedes surfing courtesy / etiquette.
Select to expand quoteDARTH said..PTWoody said..DARTH said..PTWoody said..
Just last weekend, I witnessed an angry old fart on a long board grab and flip the board of one of our SUP crew while they were both on the same wave. Granted the SUP surfer did technically drop in but this is a party wave location that is 95% SUP, and this long boarder came from way out the back linking a wave from off the point - good for him that he managed to catch such a long ride.
My only point is this - you can't go around accusing SUPs of being big and dangerous, and then do something as potentially hazardous as flipping a 10'+ board when it is on the wave right next to you. How many ways could that board roll over and hit you hard or impale you with a fin? Karma practically demands it.
SUPpers like you to pull their heads out of their collective arses, go back to flat water paddling you tool 
Laird needs a good kick in the balls....... 
You're so cute when you talk dirty.
Typical dumb attitude, its why you guys are hated so much. You must like it, kinky....
You know you love it.
shortboard dropped me the other day--he hadnt seen me, he kicked right out--no harm no foul
in case this whole thing's not parody, I dont party wave anyone who's not a friend and clearly cool with it---and i kick out right away if i accidentally drop someone--if you arent enough in control to kick out, if need be, you shdnt surf in a crowded place
if it's a steep barrel of a wave no drop allowed, period--doesnt sound like that kinda wave tho
whatever
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...I think we all need to take ourselves a little less seriously...
Only reasonable post in this entire thread.
Select to expand quotew8ingforwind said..
Avrige ride lengths ,about the same as a short board.
not bad for a bunch of beginners, but no life jacket ??
I genuinely feel scared for them every time they fall
Should of stuck to Tin Foiling
cracks me up how these small minded little tossers generate enthusiasm between themselves in the short room (like school boys bragging on their first sexual encounter), then come over to the upright of the community thinking they will have persuasion.
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cracks me up how these small minded little tossers generate enthusiasm between themselves in the short room (like school boys bragging on their first sexual encounter), then come over to the upright of the community thinking they will have persuasion.
Poor little snowflakes 
Is that it, piss weak to be frank,
but all your grovelling buddies will give you all the encouragement you need.
Really guys the original post was just a joke , how did you not get that ? Just let it die and get your GoPro out and share the stoke. FMD don't reply to this and post some stoke . Isn't this what Seabreeze is about.
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Really guys the original post was just a joke , how did you not get that ? Just let it die and get your GoPro out and share the stoke. FMD don't reply to this and post some stoke . Isn't this what Seabreeze is about.
Stoke me stoke me....stoke stoke :-)))))
You can all laugh at my stoke! After snapping my archillies twice last year and not being able to surf for the past year, I was determined not to let my moonboot or injury stop my suping in the Philippines!
the only way I can technically be allowed to surf for another 5 months is to wear my full moonboot in the water and surf waves on my sup on it.
i frequently get comments like 'do you have a bionic leg', 'f**k the doctor bro' etc. the irony is priceless when I'm passing by those proners sitting there not able to catch anything despite being crippled haha.
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"Kai Lenny laughs when I ask him about this debate. "I've had this conversation with a lot people," he says. Lenny looks at it like this: prone surfers don't realize how effective of a tool a SUP can be. Like Hamilton, Lenny is a genuine waterman. He excels at surfing and at SUP, and has won championships for his SUP surfing and long-distance SUP races, too. To watch him surf Jaws is a masterclass in riding big waves-regardless of board type."When you're already standing up, you can take off on waves much later, you can really stall and put yourself in more critical positions," he says. "When it's windy and surfers get spray in their face, you're above all that. When you have a paddle in your hand, it acts like a crutch. If you hit chop and you're going to fall, you can put the paddle in the water and catch yourself. And you can give yourself one more stroke to catch the wave or use it to pivot the board around the paddle."Lenny says being up high also lets him see waves materializing further out, allowing him to get into position earlier. "When people see me paddle toward the horizon, they immediately start following now," he says.
Kai says it best, we're above it all and surfers are getting sprayed in the face.
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TimKay,
I felt sorry for you, you deadset loser.
I've been called worse after taking my tinny foil in the line up
I needed an extended counselling session with Laird just to be able to get out of bed in the morning.
He's even sent me an old pair of snowboard boots to keep the Stoke alive
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"Kai Lenny laughs when I ask him about this debate. "I've had this conversation with a lot people," he says. Lenny looks at it like this: prone surfers don't realize how effective of a tool a SUP can be. Like Hamilton, Lenny is a genuine waterman. He excels at surfing and at SUP, and has won championships for his SUP surfing and long-distance SUP races, too. To watch him surf Jaws is a masterclass in riding big waves-regardless of board type."When you're already standing up, you can take off on waves much later, you can really stall and put yourself in more critical positions," he says. "When it's windy and surfers get spray in their face, you're above all that. When you have a paddle in your hand, it acts like a crutch. If you hit chop and you're going to fall, you can put the paddle in the water and catch yourself. And you can give yourself one more stroke to catch the wave or use it to pivot the board around the paddle."Lenny says being up high also lets him see waves materializing further out, allowing him to get into position earlier. "When people see me paddle toward the horizon, they immediately start following now," he says.
Kai says it best, we're above it all and surfers are getting sprayed in the face.
So any body got a new JetSki lately???
I heard they have a promotional on at the moment you get a free life jacket 
Select to expand quotew8ingforwind said..
So any body got a new JetSki lately???
I heard they have a promotional on at the moment you get a free life jacket
Does it come with a foil
Select to expand quoteTimKay said..w8ingforwind said..
So any body got a new JetSki lately???
I heard they have a promotional on at the moment you get a free life jacket
Does it come with a foil
No a surfboard for tow ins
