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Created by HG02 > 9 months ago, 15 Aug 2016
HG02
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15 Aug 2016 8:08PM
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twin V 12 petrol engines


the other half sorry no depth chargers






Agent nods
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15 Aug 2016 9:39PM
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why???

HG02
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16 Aug 2016 6:22AM
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nods said..
why???



Hes Ex navy its a 1942 PT boat rare as sea horse poo only one still floating in Oz one of three left

Trek
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16 Aug 2016 7:11AM
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Wheres Mc Hale !?

Ramona
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16 Aug 2016 8:16AM
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I grew up watching McHales Navy, top show. Would be interesting to know whether these are the original Packard aero engines.

Jolene
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16 Aug 2016 6:25AM
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There use to be one used as a Rottnest Island ferri. I think it was burn at the Barack St Jetty years ago, fowl play suspected?
The old man use to tell me you could buy the hulls for 50 quid after the war, alot where turned into house boats.

One of my favorites is this Swedish Boat. It would be awesome in the Whitsundays.


GKandCC
NSW, 218 posts
16 Aug 2016 8:26AM
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Is that RAAF on the side of the bow? Wonder why

HG02
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16 Aug 2016 9:44AM
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GKandCC said...
Is that RAAF on the side of the bow? Wonder why


They bought it off the navy

LooseChange
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16 Aug 2016 10:15AM
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There used to be one moored in Kirribilli at what used to be the North Sails loft, opposite the Sydney Flying Squadron. It had been all tarted up to be a floating gin palace and was still fitted with its twin Merlins, the poor schmuck that owned it couldn't afford to drive it anywhere at 22 gallons/hour fuel consumption.

LooseChange
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16 Aug 2016 10:21AM
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GKandCC said..
Is that RAAF on the side of the bow? Wonder why


They were part of the air farce for use as crash rescue boats.

MorningBird
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16 Aug 2016 1:51PM
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Yep, there was one at RAAF WILLIAMTOWN (operating out of Nelsons Bay) into the 70s or 80s. A mate of mine drove it for awhile.

PhoenixStar
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16 Aug 2016 5:15PM
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One used to be the ferry to Heron Island.

And Boyce had a HDV, similar, for years. Iron fastened, not meant to last long.

Lazzz
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16 Aug 2016 5:34PM
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Ramona said..
I grew up watching McHales Navy, top show.


Me too - wouldn't miss it!!

HG02
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16 Aug 2016 6:03PM
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Ramona said..
I grew up watching McHales Navy, top show. Would be interesting to know whether these are the original Packard aero engines.


Cant remember the motors name USA made had a feeling it had Scott and B some thing its got two V 12 petrol engines and can cruise at 30 knots
think it uses a litre a minuet at idle each engine . Was told this is one of three and this is the last one still in operation in private hands the other two PT's are in USA.

Ramona
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16 Aug 2016 6:04PM
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MorningBird said..
Yep, there was one at RAAF WILLIAMTOWN (operating out of Nelsons Bay) into the 70s or 80s. A mate of mine drove it for awhile.


There was one at Cerberus in '64. The one in the photo was probably for East Sale or Laverton.

HG02
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16 Aug 2016 6:39PM
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Ramona said..

MorningBird said..
Yep, there was one at RAAF WILLIAMTOWN (operating out of Nelsons Bay) into the 70s or 80s. A mate of mine drove it for awhile.



There was one at Cerberus in '64. The one in the photo was probably for East Sale or Laverton.


Ill find out next weekend she only out for a week should be still on the hard on Saturday

lloydyboy53
VIC, 49 posts
16 Aug 2016 6:55PM
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I worked on an SAR (SEa Air Rescue) boat whe I was an apprentice at the Williamstown Dockyards in the early 70's. From memory, we replaced the stem and some planks and the motors were reconditioned. I think they were Rolls Royce aero motors. She was on the slip for a couple of years.
The Navy took her out for sea trials and when they were berthing the throttle linkage got stuck and they T-Boned the bluestone jetty. She spent another ^ months or so getting another new bow.
I don't know where she ended up but she sure was a great looking boat.
Cheers John

lloydyboy53
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16 Aug 2016 6:56PM
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Sorry blokes . That was 6mths

SandS
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16 Aug 2016 8:08PM
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Lazzarae said..

Ramona said..
I grew up watching McHales Navy, top show.



Me too - wouldn't miss it!!


Grueber was a megastar in our lounge room !!

Trek
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17 Aug 2016 6:13AM
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Here they are





Bruski068
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17 Aug 2016 11:37AM
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HG02 said..
twin V 12 petrol engines


the other half sorry no depth chargers






It's got 109 painted on the bow, isn't that the one JFK sank when he was a navy officer in WW2.

HG02
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17 Aug 2016 9:53PM
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Stop watching that show and do your home work you probally heard that

HG02
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17 Aug 2016 9:57PM
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HG02
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17 Aug 2016 10:08PM
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http://www.ptboats.org/20-01-05-ptboat-005.html


http://www.ptboats.org/20-01-05-ptboat-005.html

Jolene
WA, 1618 posts
18 Aug 2016 7:24AM
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Ramona said..
HG02 said..
http://www.ptboats.org/20-01-05-ptboat-005.html


http://www.ptboats.org/20-01-05-ptboat-005.html



Packard engines, same as used in the P51's and other aircraft. Not sure whether the Australian ones had these or Merlins.


I don't think the PT boats ever used the (Packard/Merlin) aero engines . Just the name and the cylinder configuration is the same.

LooseChange
NSW, 2140 posts
18 Aug 2016 11:13AM
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The Packard 4M- 2500 - PT Boat Engine
This engine was based on the 1925 Liberty aircraft engine

Cylinders: 12 - V angled arrangement
Supercharger: Gear driven - centrifugal
Cooling: Fresh water
Maximum RPM: 2400 rpm, 2000 rpm sustained
Rating: 1200, 1350, 1500 depending on year of manufacturing
Fuel: 100 Octane gasoline
Fuel Consumption at 40 knots: Top speed at 40 knots, running three engines, 474 gallons per hour
Full fuel load (3,000 gallons) 6.3 hours.
Fuel Consumption at 40 knots: Maximum sustained speed at 2000 rpm, running three engines, 292 gallons per hour
Full fuel load (3,000 gallons) 10.3 hours, range radius of 259 miles at 35 knots, 518 miles total.

The US Navy PT Boats never used the Packard Merlin engine as is often stated.

GKandCC
NSW, 218 posts
19 Aug 2016 10:45AM
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HG, that Higgins PT boat video seems to show monitoring gauges for 3 engines but I can only see two side-by-side, where would the third engine be, and would it be for propulsion?
Greg

LooseChange
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19 Aug 2016 12:52PM
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The third engine was on the centreline and its thrust was aimed directly at the rudder, it was placed a bit over one engine length aft of the other two engines.

HG02
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19 Aug 2016 6:40PM
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www.yaringa.com.au/wp-content/uploads/Feb-March-Newsletter.pdf

Third page gives some of her history

SandS
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19 Aug 2016 7:47PM
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HG02 said..
Stop watching that show and do your home work you probally heard that


Yup I'd forgotten how good the theme song was ! Thanks for posting that episode watched it at lunchtime today

HG02
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19 Aug 2016 11:55PM
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Bit of music for you Sands



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