Ok...yesterday had a guest on watch who decided now was the time to smoke some pot ( I don't care what anyone smokes...but not below deck and no drugs on watch! )
I'm. ...a very easy. Nice guy, till you piss me off
You can smoke ice for all I care, above deck and not during or before your watch.
I want to leave him on the island. ...he can swim for all I care.
To take him back with us means I cant trust him to pull watch. ..which means those I do ( which is everyone else) has to cover for him....well f.uc.ck that.
The better half of chopes and bro is biting off my ear saying just cool it....let it be.
Confirming my fears shes part spastic.
I dont care what you do in your own time...but if your on watch. ..no drugs
Am I overreacting?
( like I care....irish little **** is swimming home)
Give her a good keel hauling or send her to me if she's hot looking I will sort her out!
I have always been on boats with a "dry boat" policy while under way. Works well. It comes down to an obvious safety issue.
As for what to do with them...... ?
Truly dont care what anyone does in their spare time but two hours a day straight. Looking out for everyone else is all thats required
We all do it for him....****en backpackers
P.s and no....miss bro isn't free too a good home
Select to expand quoterumblefish said...
have to ask....does the same thing apply for alcohol during/before a watch?
Cant imagine why you ask....OF Course!
No drugs b4 or during watch. ...ffs
Am I wrong
Ffs...im not captain ****. But I expect you to be both sober and drug free b4 you start your watch and stay that way for TWO HOURs.
I dont care..what anyone thinks..its my boat....thems the rules
Im leaving him...and filming it for u tube
His family can pay mega $$$ to get him out
Select to expand quoteChopesBro said..rumblefish said...
have to ask....does the same thing apply for alcohol during/before a watch?
Cant imagine why you ask....OF Course!
No drugs b4 or during watch. ...ffs
Am I wrong
Good!! You'd be surprised how many people think alcohol is not a 'drug'!!
Your a more understanding bloke then me. I wouldn't have drugs on my boat period. Not pot and certainly not ice. I would leave him wherever just for possession let alone smoking the stuff.
Alcohol is a bigger killer than pot. i guess it's all good in moderation. It's a lot easer to sail a yacht after a few beers or a joint than trying to drive through peak hour in Sydney!
Select to expand quoteChopesBro said..
Am I overreacting?
Far from it. I'd say you are not reacting enough. Your boat, your rules.
The real issue is that you have a legal responsibility for the safety of all on board. I suspect you will be the one to be held accountable if something goes wrong due to the actions of a crew member that you did not discipline.
Assuming you have not already stated the rules.........Perhaps all that is required is for you to gather all crew and state the rules very clearly and highlight the risks to all onboard. Witnesses and peer pressure may solve the problem.
Perhaps also throw the drugs overboard or hold the drugs under your lock and key until you reach your destination.
Select to expand quotesouthace said..
Alcohol is a bigger killer than pot. i guess it's all good in moderation. It's a lot easer to sail a yacht after a few beers or a joint than trying to drive through peak hour in Sydney!
Yes I agree to a point that alcohol is a forgotten killer. Although me personally would tolerate a beer or two on a boat over dope.
But this comment is of a concern
Select to expand quoteChopesBro said..
You can smoke ice for all I care, above deck and not during or before your watch.
An Ice addict in a confined space in the middle of stuff knows where......
They announced on the news tonight new evidence changes the last evidence that coffee doesn't cause cancer.
last month they announced salt is good for you and the evidence of salt being bad gets thrown out of the window.
Pot has been found to been good for medical theropys so must have some good.
Alchol kills lots of people drunk drivers/one hit punch/abuse and cancer I guess But most of us use it in moderation or at least try!
ICE turns people into theives,violent bottom feeders......these a poor people that I would not trust even coming aboard my vessel.
I would be just asking to smoke there joint outside , unless the fact you don't know them enough to get fit judgment on there wellbeing before there watch.
where the hell are you and where are you heading chopes Bro?
You are 100% right. Even off watch, a smoker or druggee on deck can fall overboard or cause all kinds of hazards. If they want to do any kind of drug, the shore is the place for it.
Sounds like you really are in the South Atlantic 
. Even more reason to be zero tolerance.
Also, as Master and owner, you're responsible. If this person's on the boat/on watch and something goes wrong, your insurance could be void.
How do police start to search for missing people? On Facebook.
How does the tax Department find out that a Tradie's been working hard but not reporting it? Facebook.
How does an Insurance Company find out that someone with a back injury is skiing... You guessed it.
While sites such as this aren't as obvious a source of information, what's written here is accessible to anyone.
You've identified a person with an illegal drug is in your boat. It's now wise to also clearly identify when you've got him/her off your boat!
It's not a commercial vessel. Your not charging them for there services I assume. It's a open book. My last crew was my trusty female friend and her Spanish boyfriend. Both very good guitar players ,yoga, vegos! etc they smoked a joint played guitar and dived and cleaned my hull.
If anything happened on our sailing trip I will get full insurance and I doubt they would test for the jointo job.
Select to expand quoteChopesBro said..
We all do it for him....****en backpackers
There is the problem and you should know better. They lie, they cheat and they steal.
On Trek watch keepers or helmsmen are not allowed to be over 0.05 or smoke wacky weed of any kind, or they walk the plank. We carry a sturdy plank below and put it out when necessary 
Tough situation Chopes.
The other issue is that if the drugs are on board your boat then you are criminally liable unless you can prove that you didn't know the drugs were on board.
In other words the onus of proof is reversed, unless you can prove the drugs were secreted on to your boat without your knowledge, then, as the master of the vessel, you are assumed to be in possession of them. Of course the criminal law differs from jurisdiction to jurisdiction but that is a common theme to most.
Select to expand quoteChopesBro said..
Im leaving him...and filming it for u tube
His family can pay mega $$$ to get him out
So did he go?
Interesting topic. Just what do you do with an unruly, disruptive guest on board.
I don't mean in the future but right now, out on the water, faced with someone
getting out of control with drugs or drink and threatening violence to anyone who
challenges him.
You are trying to sail your boat with everyones safety paramount and here's this
lunatic taking your mind off everything you should be concentrating on.....what do you do ???.
It is a tough situation. First thought is to lay down the law. If that does not work, call in the law. This is where it can get messy and violence of any degree is to be avoided at all cost especially when isolated at sea. Make the nearest land fall and off load him. Marooning him on a deserted island is not recommended.
The time to sort out drugs and alcohol issues is before you leave port of course. Even then you can't predict what might happen later. You just have to be very particular about who you put to sea with and I have a deep distrust of backpackers based on personal experience and that of others like yourself.
I changed yachts as crew at Va'vau many years ago and the skipper of the new boat gave me a virtual "job interview" before he accepted me aboard.
Select to expand quoteandy59 said..
Tough situation Chopes.
The other issue is that if the drugs are on board your boat then you are criminally liable unless you can prove that you didn't know the drugs were on board.
In other words the onus of proof is reversed, unless you can prove the drugs were secreted on to your boat without your knowledge, then, as the master of the vessel, you are assumed to be in possession of them. Of course the criminal law differs from jurisdiction to jurisdiction but that is a common theme to most.
And just as bad, even if you can prove you had nothing to do with the drugs on board, you go into the customs data base which is international and if you take your boat overseas you can expect a hard time at every port of entry.
Select to expand quoteChopesBro said..
Im leaving him...and filming it for u tube
His family can pay mega $$$ to get him out
Be aware that as the skipper of the boat that brought a crew member to this location (wherever it may be) you may be held accountable for removing said crew member, if not by your vessel then at your expense.
Im buying a chinese male doll for my crew 
I already know his name Sum C@#@
when things go wrong and he doesn't do drug beer or food he'll be there just to cus
Select to expand quoteToph said..
Your a more understanding bloke then me. I wouldn't have drugs on my boat period. Not pot and certainly not ice. I would leave him wherever just for possession let alone smoking the stuff.
I'm with you Toph. Call me old fashioned but I can't stand pot... let alone Ice... and no alcohol till anchored or moored. Just wonder what the legalities are of leaving someone on shore in a remote location. ... and how do you put someone on shore without risking being the one thrown overboard when the culprit sees that coming?
Whatever, the scenario you find yourself in Chopes, is one that scares me.
Select to expand quoteMcNaughtical said..Toph said..
Your a more understanding bloke then me. I wouldn't have drugs on my boat period. Not pot and certainly not ice. I would leave him wherever just for possession let alone smoking the stuff.
I'm with you Toph. Call me old fashioned but I can't stand pot... let alone Ice... and no alcohol till anchored or moored. Just wonder what the legalities are of leaving someone on shore in a remote location. ... and how do you put someone on shore without risking being the one thrown overboard when the culprit sees that coming?
Whatever, the scenario you find yourself in Chopes, is one that scares me.
Had a guy on board we would have cheerfully either drowned or left in the Louisiades, but if you bring someone into a country aboard your boat, you are legally responsible to see that he leaves. And just putting him on a flight from Missima wasn't enough, he had to clear from Morseby. So we suffered him all the way back to OZ.
Jilted crew have lots of revenge opportunities, the scariest being to report drugs on your boat, Even if there are no drugs, that puts you on an international black list and you will be torn apart by customs ever after.
