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Which anchor and gear do you use?

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Created by southace > 9 months ago, 25 May 2015
southace
SA, 4794 posts
25 May 2015 9:55PM
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50 meters 10 mm short link, Marsh anchor made by Industrial springs in Adelaide , 1000 Muir up and down windlass. Back up is Some CQR with 100 meters of poly rope !

cisco
QLD, 12361 posts
25 May 2015 11:33PM
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Thirty foot yacht with 30 lb Manson (CQR type plough) + oversize swivel with 10 mm shank + 45 m short link 5/16" (8 mm) chain + 30 m Kinnears 18 mm 3 strand rode, all shackles seized with gal wire. All up 75 m of tackle which allows for up to 7:1 scope in 10 m depth.

Spare anchor stored aft and below, 27 lb Danforth type with forged shank + 15 m 5/16" (8 mm) chain + 100 m 12 mm multi strand rode.

Spare anchor and tackle stored aft and below, 27 lb plough anchor + 15 m 5/16" (8 mm) chain + 50 m 12 mm nylon line.

I believe there is sufficient redundancy there to cover most situations with extended cruising. The aft sections of the yacht are beamy, bouyant and under cockpit which allows for weighty items like spare anchors to be placed strategically for trim as required.

Ramona
NSW, 7722 posts
26 May 2015 5:01AM
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Thirty foot yacht. 14 kilo SS replica ultra anchor, 8 metres of 8mm chain. 50 metres of 14mm yacht braid. Spare anchor and chain, rope stored amidships below.

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
26 May 2015 7:16AM
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Ive a old plough that more like 40 kg 30 meters of chain and a rusty old one that was buried in the cockpit locker. Its some thing I have to go through yet. The last reason shes not be out of the marina. Ive a little bit of motor work to finish and add a couple of fire extinguishers and the anchor. Theres a fire extinguisher on board but shed be getting old. There on this weeks do list.
I think the last owner didn't use the anchor much mainly to and from the swing mooring.





Lazzz
NSW, 898 posts
26 May 2015 7:00PM
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Adams 45 - 1 x 25kg (55lb) Delta anchor, 35mts of 3/8” chain + 65 mts 5/8” rode. Spare = 1 x 35lb plough anchor, 10 mts 3/8" chain + 120 mts 3/4” rode stored amidships below.
I did have 60 mts of 1/2"chain in the chain locker but it was just too heavy in the bow so I sold it to my mooring man.





HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
26 May 2015 7:09PM
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My thinking now is keep the old plough as a spare with chain and lock it into the anchor roller and on the other side of the bowsprit find some thing that can be use and lifted manually for now . I have some 8mm chain around 35 meters I think on board that came with the boat and untilize that for my main anchor
Some Gentle men what should I hang off the end of my bow?

Ill buy or build some thing like these on either side of the teak bowsprit run them back to the bow
How many KG's do you think Id need for the anchor knowing is a 28 foot H28 5000 kg displacement with 2500 KG keel


HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
26 May 2015 7:10PM
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Ramona said..
Thirty foot yacht. 14 kilo SS replica ultra anchor, 8 metres of 8mm chain. 50 metres of 14mm yacht braid. Spare anchor and chain, rope stored amidships below.



That sound a lot easier than what Ive got at the moment Ramona 14 KG

I think Ill be having a go at making a replica to for the price of them

FreeRadical
WA, 855 posts
26 May 2015 5:33PM
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Picked up a 16kg Manson Supreme from the Bias Auctions.

Replaces a nice looking stainless Bruce claw which was a pretty good rake.




Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
26 May 2015 8:37PM
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I have a CQR with about 10 meters of chain and 60 meters of 14mm 3 strand nylon

Also found a danforth I didn't know I had wrapped in carpet in the bow under a couple of buckets and some other stuff 12 months after I bought the boat

Regards Don

slammin
QLD, 998 posts
26 May 2015 9:10PM
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I have a 25ft trailer sailer. Anchor is a 6kg delta with 1st 10m 6mm long link then 10m of 8mm short then 10m of 6mm long link. I have 50m of 8mm 3strand nylon.

You're probably wondering why I have the different gauge chain. I want to minimize weight but maximize the chains holding ability so a heavier chain further along creates more dangle. I need so much chain as I'm in the great barrier reef. I've found the delta fantastic and have sat out some strong winds with no stress.

southace
SA, 4794 posts
26 May 2015 8:52PM
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Yes according to the web site...a 18kg for 9 meter boat. But they have changed that now and are using boat weight rather than length now

DrRog
NSW, 606 posts
26 May 2015 9:47PM
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Adams 31, 4500 kg

Manson Supreme (15kg / 35lb) on 30m x 8mm CMP short link then about 30 metres of 3-strand.

Big-arse Danforth in the lazerette with 5m 8mm chain and 50m of nylon.

35lb CQR in the garage. Doesn't help much.

The Manson sets fantastically and, personally, helps me sleep. For the sake of transparency, no experience as yet of anchoring in a big blow.

santanasaga
NSW, 123 posts
26 May 2015 9:52PM
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14 tonne boat. 25kg delta, 90m 10mm chain. Stern anchor (on rail) 15kg Danforth on 30m 14mm rode. Spares 55lb fisherman (admiralty), 30m chain, 2x 10kg Danforth and 100m 25mm nylon. + two dingy anchors...I guess weight doesn't matter to me! I have used all tackle on a couple of occasions... (Riding out cyclones in south pacific including 3x engine blocks and dragged it all, thank god the eye went over and the wind backed 180...)
Delta generally works well but I never go easy on the reverse thrust to set it!

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
26 May 2015 10:48PM
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http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/fremantle/boat-accessories-parts/anchors-fishing-boating-camping/1079259883?utm_source=criteo&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=LF-boats&mpch=ads

This lots in Fremantle WA $10


Think Ill settle for a Manson Supreme Anchor 35lb compact enough to fit

Ramona
NSW, 7722 posts
27 May 2015 5:25AM
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HG02 said..

Ramona said..
Thirty foot yacht. 14 kilo SS replica ultra anchor, 8 metres of 8mm chain. 50 metres of 14mm yacht braid. Spare anchor and chain, rope stored amidships below.




That sound a lot easier than what Ive got at the moment Ramona 14 KG

I think Ill be having a go at making a replica to for the price of them


It's the angle of the spade and surface area that holds the boat. My anchor resides in a well. I used the manufacturers templates to build a timber version first to ensure it actually fits the compartment. Probably should have made it lighter! Making the anchor yourself its easier to get a really sharp point and edge to the spade.

DrRog
NSW, 606 posts
27 May 2015 11:46AM
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santanasaga said..
14 tonne boat. 25kg delta, 90m 10mm chain. Stern anchor (on rail) 15kg Danforth on 30m 14mm rode. Spares 55lb fisherman (admiralty), 30m chain, 2x 10kg Danforth and 100m 25mm nylon. + two dingy anchors...I guess weight doesn't matter to me! I have used all tackle on a couple of occasions... (Riding out cyclones in south pacific including 3x engine blocks and dragged it all, thank god the eye went over and the wind backed 180...)
Delta generally works well but I never go easy on the reverse thrust to set it!


...and Santana Saga wins this thread!

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
27 May 2015 4:00PM
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Ramona said...
HG02 said..

Ramona said..
Thirty foot yacht. 14 kilo SS replica ultra anchor, 8 metres of 8mm chain. 50 metres of 14mm yacht braid. Spare anchor and chain, rope stored amidships below.




That sound a lot easier than what Ive got at the moment Ramona 14 KG

I think Ill be having a go at making a replica to for the price of them


It's the angle of the spade and surface area that holds the boat. My anchor resides in a well. I used the manufacturers templates to build a timber version first to ensure it actually fits the compartment. Probably should have made it lighter! Making the anchor yourself its easier to get a really sharp point and edge to the spade.


What size plate did you use ramona?

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
27 May 2015 9:43PM
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Manson surpreme

Walker H28 8.9 meters long 5000 kg displacement would I get away with a 6096 11kg ?

southace
SA, 4794 posts
27 May 2015 9:26PM
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Defaintly but how's a Manson going to sit on your bowsprint?

Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
27 May 2015 10:29PM
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Anyone using one of these and what are you thoughts www.anchorright.com.au/products/sarca-excel-anchor/

Regards Don



HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
27 May 2015 10:34PM
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Defaintly but how's a Manson going to sit on your bowsprint?


Ill make it fit real nice Just cause your appendage is bigger than mine
Its a monster




Ill make some thing like this and fix it to the side of the teak bowsprit


Ill fix it to the side of the teak and support it off the side and from under neath the teak bowsprit further out much where it was origanlly


HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
27 May 2015 10:36PM
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Donk107 said..
Anyone using one of these and what are you thoughts www.anchorright.com.au/products/sarca-excel-anchor/

Regards Don






bit pricey for me Donk nice though

Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
27 May 2015 10:37PM
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Or this if storage space in a well is a issue www.anchorright.com.au/products/sarca-excel-alloy-anchor/

Regards Don


Twohull
QLD, 149 posts
28 May 2015 12:18AM
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Hi, 72 meters 8 mm chain and 16 kg Delta, 10 kg folding grapnel on 64 m general link 6mm chain, had not been short for chain yet.
bit over size for 32' , and still not bow heavy.

madmission
VIC, 234 posts
28 May 2015 7:25AM
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Trailer sailer 20'
4 kg delta , 10 mts chain (when necessary) otherwise 4 mts chain and 12 mm nylon rode
Changed from silver rode to nylon last december ....much better
I sleep comfortably with this setup delta resets quickly and buries itself deeply in weed , mud and shell
The only drag i had was when the tip impaled a clam shell in 35 knots and it began to skip

Franrick
289 posts
28 May 2015 7:39AM
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Donk107 said..
Anyone using one of these and what are you thoughts www.anchorright.com.au/products/sarca-excel-anchor/

Regards Don




Yes,
I have one of these. Came with my boat when I bought her last year.
I was a bit skeptical when first using it as it doesn't look heavy enough to be up to the job.
I almost changed over to the spare CQR when I dragged on Lake Macquarrie in a southerly where I was anchored in silt and shell.
Since then I have used it for kedging, stayed put in 40 knotts at Broughton Island and spent a week hanging off it in winds between 25 and 55 knots at Island Head Creek.
It digs into sand very well and holds well on most other bottoms.
The CQR will be my anchor of choice in soft bottoms but the Excel seems to do an excellent job otherwise.
My Excel has forty meters of chain behind it and then thirty meters of rope.
My CQR sits beside my Excel on the bow and has fifteen meters of chain and fifty meters of rope. The CQR is nearly twice as heavy as the Excel.
A danforth and rode lives in the lazerette.

UncleBob
NSW, 1294 posts
28 May 2015 10:17AM
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Hi, 20 kg galvanised excell replaced a 15 kg rocna on my 32 fisher.I have found it to hold everywhere first time every time, the rocna that it replaced dragged several times in soft mud and came up a ball of black goo. Not good! I would agree that the excell is a bit pricey, but hey it works.

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
28 May 2015 10:47AM
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Franrick said...
Donk107 said..
Anyone using one of these and what are you thoughts www.anchorright.com.au/products/sarca-excel-anchor/

Regards Don




Yes,
I have one of these. Came with my boat when I bought her last year.
I was a bit skeptical when first using it as it doesn't look heavy enough to be up to the job.
I almost changed over to the spare CQR when I dragged on Lake Macquarrie in a southerly where I was anchored in silt and shell.
Since then I have used it for kedging, stayed put in 40 knotts at Broughton Island and spent a week hanging off it in winds between 25 and 55 knots at Island Head Creek.
It digs into sand very well and holds well on most other bottoms.
The CQR will be my anchor of choice in soft bottoms but the Excel seems to do an excellent job otherwise.
My Excel has forty meters of chain behind it and then thirty meters of rope.
My CQR sits beside my Excel on the bow and has fifteen meters of chain and fifty meters of rope. The CQR is nearly twice as heavy as the Excel.
A danforth and rode lives in the lazerette.


Thanks for the info frant

southace
SA, 4794 posts
28 May 2015 10:33AM
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That's franrick! HO2 not Rant I believe.

p.s
I believe the Manson will not be suitble for your yacht although the the holding power would be superior the ring across the top will cause grief with your bow sprint. Regards southace.

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
28 May 2015 6:24PM
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southace said..
That's franrick! HO2 not Rant I believe.

p.s
I believe the Manson will not be suitble for your yacht although the the holding power would be superior the ring across the top will cause grief with your bow sprint. Regards southace.



Manson also have a Manson Boss its new out I think.


Plus my old man told me there is not such thing as "cant" South Ace . While I was using a crow bar when it was stinking hot day and the crow bar was bouncing off the ground on impact trying to dig a hole for a strainer post and he liked them deep the old bugger

http://www.manson-marine.co.nz/SitePages/galvBoss.htm

Ramona
NSW, 7722 posts
28 May 2015 7:44PM
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HG02 said..

Ramona said...

HG02 said..


Ramona said..
Thirty foot yacht. 14 kilo SS replica ultra anchor, 8 metres of 8mm chain. 50 metres of 14mm yacht braid. Spare anchor and chain, rope stored amidships below.





That sound a lot easier than what Ive got at the moment Ramona 14 KG

I think Ill be having a go at making a replica to for the price of them



It's the angle of the spade and surface area that holds the boat. My anchor resides in a well. I used the manufacturers templates to build a timber version first to ensure it actually fits the compartment. Probably should have made it lighter! Making the anchor yourself its easier to get a really sharp point and edge to the spade.



What size plate did you use ramona?


The spade and keel is 3mm. The stock is hollow with 20mm tube on the top and 15 mm tube one the bottom, 1.5 mm wall and this is skinned with 1.5 mm plate. The keel is lead filled.
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