Forums > Sailing General

Wet weather gear

Reply
Created by Donk107 > 9 months ago, 30 Jun 2014
Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
30 Jun 2014 8:47PM
Thumbs Up

Hi all

Looking at buying some wet weather gear but not in the position to spend a fortune

Wondering if anyone has any experience with Musto breathable wet weather trousers and jacket

www.whitworths.com.au/

www.whitworths.com.au/

I can probably spend around the $600 mark but I am open to any suggestions of other brands that my be better value for money

Most of my sailing is during the day in temps from 5 degrees to 30 degrees both cruising and racing plus a overnight race at the start of the season in September

Any feedback would be appreciated

Regards Don

Seamonkey_H2024
VIC, 344 posts
30 Jun 2014 8:51PM
Thumbs Up

I bought the 'westcoast' brand wet weather gear. Jacket and highpants for about $300-350 total from memory. I was told it was made in the same factory as burke. I'm happy with it so far, but haven't put it through hell yet.

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
30 Jun 2014 9:37PM
Thumbs Up


have a look at burke . ... i ve had no problems and good quality

Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
30 Jun 2014 9:46PM
Thumbs Up

SandS said...

have a look at burke . ... i ve had no problems and good quality


Hi Sands

Is this the Burke stuff you are talking about

www.whitworths.com.au/burke-southerly-offshore-pb20-breathable-jacket-red?q=24973

www.whitworths.com.au/main_itemdetail.asp?cat=172&item=25012&intAbsolutePage=1

Regards Don

Charriot
QLD, 880 posts
30 Jun 2014 10:07PM
Thumbs Up

I have Burke set, very very good, except hood is very basic

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
30 Jun 2014 11:43PM
Thumbs Up

Donk107 said...

SandS said...

have a look at burke . ... i ve had no problems and good quality



Hi Sands

Is this the Burke stuff you are talking about

www.whitworths.com.au/burke-southerly-offshore-pb20-breathable-jacket-red?q=24973

www.whitworths.com.au/main_itemdetail.asp?cat=172&item=25012&intAbsolutePage=1

Regards Don


My jacket is the coastal model onyl about a hundred and fifty ... but all good in Victoria winter even used it as a ski jacket excellent.

nswsailor
NSW, 1458 posts
1 Jul 2014 12:19AM
Thumbs Up

My gear has seen a bit off use and I have just had to re-weather proof it but the material is still first class!

I brought mine from the Burke factory outlet in Sydney, a lot cheaper than anywhere else.
Ended up with black pants and a grey top which gets a bit dirty, but hey, it was cheap.

Size up at Whitworths and then ring around the factory shops.

saltiest1
NSW, 2559 posts
1 Jul 2014 6:42AM
Thumbs Up

some of the plumbing suppliers have good wet weather gear similar to my gill stuff at about 1/6th of the price. reece have hi vis stuff thats very dry and breathes well.

BlueMoon
866 posts
1 Jul 2014 6:59AM
Thumbs Up

I have a set of the Burke Offshore (made from the PB20 stuff) as in your last links Don, bought it before I even bought a yacht, it has lasted well, no problems except the hood is not perfect....uncomfortable, hard to turn your head....end up looking out of one eye while sitting side-on on tiller.
Also have an old set of the Burke Coastal (made from the CB10) still ok, not quite as warm (in the neck and cuffs, pockets etc) as the offshore. Burke is good but expensive, cant say im 'extremely happy' with it, I do do as saltiest1 suggests first to save some $$, will always be a good 2nd set if they don't work out.
cheers

Ramona
NSW, 7727 posts
1 Jul 2014 9:04AM
Thumbs Up

I shop at the Salvation army op shop for Ski gear. Quality set is about $30. Tricky part is getting a set that has a conservative colour scheme. They also do a line of ex work gear for full water proofs. Aldi have good stuff too if you have to have new. Look for Gortex stuff.

Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
1 Jul 2014 11:42PM
Thumbs Up

Hi all

Thanks for the feedback so far

I already have a stormy http://www.stormylifejackets.com.au/recreational-pfds/stormy-life-jacket-150n-as4758-1-iso12402-3/#PhotoSwipe1404218121648 that I use and a wet weather jacket from work www.dncworkwear.com.au/Product/3864 but I don't find that either of them are particularly breathable

I am hoping the a jacket and trousers that are designed for sailing such as the Musto stuff that I posted the original link for might be better suited or perhaps I am just being seduced by the marine name

I might try a set of trousers ( I have not got any at the moment) first and see if the breath ability of the material is much different to what I already have before I get another jacket

Regards Don

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
2 Jul 2014 2:42AM
Thumbs Up

I use my Caterpillar jacket its warm as toast for now I own a B.O.A.T. cant afford a set of weathers yet

Supersonic27
NSW, 235 posts
2 Jul 2014 5:38AM
Thumbs Up

I still have Henry loyds from when I was doing a lot of offshore racing, which is very good. A bit of over kill for coastal sailing and casual sailing up north here, but when it is cold and wet, you really appreciate spending the money. (e.g S2H in a 40kn southerly!)

Musto, Burke, and Gill are all good brands and you see them a lot on other boast and sailors!

I did see some gear on eBay, from britian, that looked good....it seemed about the same price as gill, and including postage, was competitive.

Having had marlin, musto, Burke and Henri loyd, you do get what you pay for.

Ramona
NSW, 7727 posts
2 Jul 2014 10:13AM
Thumbs Up

Just buy stuff made from Gore tex. Does not matter what it was made for really unless your fashion conscious.

Poodle
WA, 867 posts
2 Jul 2014 9:40AM
Thumbs Up

I had the better burke stuff (PB20?) for years, it was quite good. Use it manily for day sails, and a few 2-3 day offshore races. The basic burke stuff (PB10?) I reckon is fine if you are doing day sails, and the temp doesnt get too cold. Have a water proof mid layer, and use some thermals under that if it likely to be cold.

The one good thing about spending the big $$$ on good musto gear is you know it will cope with that one ocasiona when its much colder, wetter & windier than you planned, and you need to stay dry & warm much longer than anticipated! Being out at sea cold & wet is miserable, and will quickly take out a crew member.

Poods

Fiesta
QLD, 122 posts
2 Jul 2014 12:07PM
Thumbs Up

I used to have a set of older wet weather trousers for the day sailing and keep a "good" pair for the long races where keeping kinda dry is important.

It didn't matter if you get a wet backside for the day, but on a long race its important.

The jackets don't get the same abuse as the trousers - but then I was on the bow getting washed around. A trimmer will probably find the reverse is the case.

My theory is that when you are 50 miles offshore you wouldnt be bothered about the extra $200 it cost for the better gear if its keeping you comfortable.

Burke for day sailing/ short trips
Musto Henri loyld for longer passage or ocean racing

Supersonic27
NSW, 235 posts
2 Jul 2014 2:06PM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
Poodle said...
I had the better burke stuff (PB20?) for years, it was quite good. Use it manily for day sails, and a few 2-3 day offshore races. The basic burke stuff (PB10?) I reckon is fine if you are doing day sails, and the temp doesnt get too cold. Have a water proof mid layer, and use some thermals under that if it likely to be cold.

The one good thing about spending the big $$$ on good musto gear is you know it will cope with that one ocasiona when its much colder, wetter & windier than you planned, and you need to stay dry & warm much longer than anticipated! Being out at sea cold & wet is miserable, and will quickly take out a crew member.

Poods



This is my attitude, when your are out in it, and its wet and cold, your really appreciate spending for the better gear.

Donk is down tassy, and I have been sailing up the Huon, probably about the 4th or 6th January, (20 years ago) and it was freezing.

I had on good musto offshore gear, seaboots, thick woollen socks, thermals, snug mid layer, beanie, all the good gear, blowing dogs off chains, storm jib and double reef, white water everywhere, snow on Mt wellington.......it was really cold and I was glad I had spent, in those days, probably around $500-$600 for some good gear.

We were cruising after the big race, and we couldnt go home after the sail for a shower and dry clothes!

Supersonic27
NSW, 235 posts
2 Jul 2014 2:13PM
Thumbs Up

One of the new brands that appears good value for money is : Gul Vigo


http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Gul-Vigo-Mens-Coastal-Sailing-Jacket-Red-Navy-/151325498350?pt=UK_Sporting_Goods_Sports_Clothing_LE&var=&hash=item233bb3dbee



They are the ones I have seen on ebay and for the price, I would give them a go. even with postage form UK ($36) they seem a good deal.

You could probably be a bit sneaky and go to a local supplier and try some on to find your size

MorningBird
NSW, 2699 posts
2 Jul 2014 7:00PM
Thumbs Up

The first problem many of you seem to have with wet weather gear is you turn the wrong way at the heads. My first rule is always turn left and keep the coast on the left. If I think of turning right I revert to rule 1. It gets warmer by the mile in that direction.
If the sea builds or it rains, set the Fleming and go below to the warm cabin.
Seriously, I prefer lighter gear that keeps you dry but isn't insulated as you can put layers under it to keep warm if needed. The stuff that is good for going to Hobart is hot and sticky when used in warmer climes when you just want to be dry.

Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
2 Jul 2014 7:34PM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
Supersonic27 said..

Donk is down tassy, and I have been sailing up the Huon, probably about the 4th or 6th January, (20 years ago) and it was freezing.

I had on good musto offshore gear, seaboots, thick woollen socks, thermals, snug mid layer, beanie, all the good gear, blowing dogs off chains, storm jib and double reef, white water everywhere, snow on Mt wellington.......it was really cold and I was glad I had spent, in those days, probably around $500-$600 for some good gear.



Ah

A lovely summers day on the Huon

Cant wait till winter is over and it warms up a bit as described

Seriously though I am looking for something to wear for the first race of the season (the pipe opener) in September where we start in Hobart at 7pm (after a 6 hour sail and motor to get there) and race down the channel to the finish line around midnight and then motor up the Huon to Port Huon to arrive home at around 3am

Regards Don

cisco
QLD, 12361 posts
2 Jul 2014 9:46PM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
MorningBird said...
The first problem many of you seem to have with wet weather gear is you turn the wrong way at the heads. My first rule is always turn left and keep the coast on the left. If I think of turning right I revert to rule 1. It gets warmer by the mile in that direction.
If the sea builds or it rains, set the Fleming and go below to the warm cabin.
Seriously, I prefer lighter gear that keeps you dry but isn't insulated as you can put layers under it to keep warm if needed. The stuff that is good for going to Hobart is hot and sticky when used in warmer climes when you just want to be dry.


Sounds good!!

So which brand and model do I buy??

LooseChange
NSW, 2140 posts
2 Jul 2014 10:06PM
Thumbs Up

I was in the local work wear shop today and looked through the foul weather clothing that was on display and got to thinking that some of that would do very nicely as offshore clothing. The only downside that I could see was that all the stuff that would be suitable was all HiVis but on reflection that may not be such a bad thing ..... if ya fell off the side of the boat.

It may be worth your while to have a look at your local work wear shop to see what they have as you could end up saving a lot of money.

Supersonic27
NSW, 235 posts
2 Jul 2014 10:13PM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
Donk107 said...
Supersonic27 said..

Donk is down tassy, and I have been sailing up the Huon, probably about the 4th or 6th January, (20 years ago) and it was freezing.

I had on good musto offshore gear, seaboots, thick woollen socks, thermals, snug mid layer, beanie, all the good gear, blowing dogs off chains, storm jib and double reef, white water everywhere, snow on Mt wellington.......it was really cold and I was glad I had spent, in those days, probably around $500-$600 for some good gear.



Ah

A lovely summers day on the Huon

Cant wait till winter is over and it warms up a bit as described

Seriously though I am looking for something to wear for the first race of the season (the pipe opener) in September where we start in Hobart at 7pm (after a 6 hour sail and motor to get there) and race down the channel to the finish line around midnight and then motor up the Huon to Port Huon to arrive home at around 3am

Regards Don




I think we had been stuck in the duckpond for 2 days as a "vigorous cold front" went thru!

One of the 1st times I truly appreciated the situation when we heard the forecast for the west coast......50-60 knots.....before the days when "please be aware that wind gusts may be 40% higher" was included in the broadcast and I think 2 or 3 of the Hobart boats had gone around to Macquarie harbour, they copped a pasting.

Supersonic27
NSW, 235 posts
2 Jul 2014 10:16PM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
cisco said...
MorningBird said...
The first problem many of you seem to have with wet weather gear is you turn the wrong way at the heads. My first rule is always turn left and keep the coast on the left. If I think of turning right I revert to rule 1. It gets warmer by the mile in that direction.
If the sea builds or it rains, set the Fleming and go below to the warm cabin.
Seriously, I prefer lighter gear that keeps you dry but isn't insulated as you can put layers under it to keep warm if needed. The stuff that is good for going to Hobart is hot and sticky when used in warmer climes when you just want to be dry.


Sounds good!!

So which brand and model do I buy??


And yes, now I'm older and wiser, the left turn, brisbane to Gladstone, or Brisbane to keppel.....much more fun, and the Henry loyds are too hot, I go barefoot most of the time.....the Burke sea boots I bought a couple of years ago are virtually unused.

Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
2 Jul 2014 11:23PM
Thumbs Up

This is Port Huon in late september

The thing i am a bit concerned about is the Musto's i linked to are not Gortex (about another $300 a piece for Gortex) and if i bought them i might just be buying something similar (with a marine price tag) to what i already have in my hi vizability breathable work jacket




Regards Don

FreeRadical
WA, 855 posts
2 Jul 2014 11:56PM
Thumbs Up

I have $1000+ full Gill OS1 kit, which is top of the line stuff and really very good.

But my very very best investment for that cold chill is "Sharkskin". I think it's the chillproof line, but it's the best investment I have ever made at keeping warm, no matter what!

Nothing comes close to this stuff in the cold. It's something like being in a wooly lined warm "dry" wetsuit, a snuggy onesie (mine's 2 piece, with booties, love warm feet)!

Layer it with a fleece and something for a descent drenching from spray (OS1!), and you will be the envy of everyone else on the rail!


HaveFun
NSW, 201 posts
3 Jul 2014 7:03AM
Thumbs Up

Read all bout it! here: http://www.tradeaboat.com.au/news/features/1208/buyers-guide-wet-weather-gear/

That said I personally have a Burke Southerly jacket (best value for money imo and has never let me down) for offshore and a Musto inshore for day sailing on the harbour (Bought the musto first and for offshore in cold wet and high sea state you need something better - hence needed to purchase the Burke Southerly). For overalls I have Westcoast brand. The Westcoast brand (Sweedish I understand) has been good for me and I notice quite a bit being worn around by crews. They also produce offshore jackets and are good value for money.

Whatever you choose it has to be windproof, waterproof and breathable, but for offshore I have found the jacket needs to have both hand warmer pockets in addition to larger flapped pockets and other pockets higher up for a plb are useful. Make sure the hood is large enough to cover the eventuality of a wave breaking over you. In that case you want the water running off down the back of the jacket not down into the jacket. And you still need a decent fleece under any of the jackets essential at night in winter. A pair of Burke sea boot with long Henri Lloyd sox has kept my feet dry and warm on the coldest and wettest of winter night watches.

Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
27 Jul 2014 11:06PM
Thumbs Up

Hi all

I had a wander around Whitworths on Friday morning and I have pretty much decided to go for the Burke Southerly Trousers www.whitworths.com.au/burke-southerly-offshore-pb20-breathable-trousers-red?q=25012 and just wear my Stormy Jacket www.stormylifejackets.com.au/recreational-pfds/stormy-life-jacket-150n-as4758-1-iso12402-3/#PhotoSwipe1406462272402 over the top
I dropped the Jacket in to Stormy to be serviced and decided to have a water activated strobe light www.stormylifejackets.com.au/commercial-pfds/water-activated-strobe-light-solas/ fitted as well to comply with the pipe opener dssinc.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/PO-Notice-of-Race-and-Entry-2014.pdf regulations

Thanks for all the feedback

Regards Don

HaveFun
NSW, 201 posts
28 Jul 2014 6:40AM
Thumbs Up

good decision

Bundeenabuoy
NSW, 1239 posts
28 Jul 2014 11:26AM
Thumbs Up

I am happy with Musto overalls and coat, but don't get to use them much, due to the warm weather.

mangrovefrog
VIC, 80 posts
28 Jul 2014 3:12PM
Thumbs Up

Ive found wearing an american peaked cap under poorly wet weather hoods solves the one eyed incumbrance..



Subscribe
Reply

Forums > Sailing General


"Wet weather gear" started by Donk107