Select to expand quotefrant said..EC31 said..
I had a Sydney 38 try that on me a few years ago. I took him from north of Scotland Is to Morning Bay (mark was at Long Nose). He got rather cross, as did his no-idea crew. But he never tried it on me again......
I presume you are talking about a pursuit start non spinacre twilight races. When the faster boat rolls you you are done but he can still pass the other slow boats ahead and is still in the race. Taking him up is considered poor form and you could be known as " one of those pricks" who will luff to the horizon irrespective of your own loss. Better to dive down low, let the faster boat past at minimum pain to yourself and concentrate on catching the slower boats ahead whom you no doubt pass to Windward.
And also there are normally slower boats ahead of you that you might catch before the finish so luffing a fasting boat is rarely a good idea unless you are on the last leg and you have a chance of staying in front.
I'll normally go below a smaller rigged boat because my momentum will carry me through their shadow and rarely ague with a much faster boat
Select to expand quotefrant said..EC31 said..
I had a Sydney 38 try that on me a few years ago. I took him from north of Scotland Is to Morning Bay (mark was at Long Nose). He got rather cross, as did his no-idea crew. But he never tried it on me again......
I presume you are talking about a pursuit start non spinacre twilight races. When the faster boat rolls you you are done but he can still pass the other slow boats ahead and is still in the race. Taking him up is considered poor form and you could be known as " one of those pricks" who will luff to the horizon irrespective of your own loss. Better to dive down low, let the faster boat past at minimum pain to yourself and concentrate on catching the slower boats ahead whom you no doubt pass to Windward.
Scenario was 2 division start, 10 minutes apart twilight race. Slow boats first, I am the slowest, the Sydney 38 is the fastest of the fast division. Problem is when it s a beam reach to a mark and everyone is in single file. The first fast boat rolls over you, then the second and the third. It is a procession that kills you, but they rarely catch the front runners in our division.
Take the first boat to the moon (being a pr!ck if that's how you see the rules interpreted) and the rest stop rolling over you. In the future they think twice about doing it. Happened again last weekend near the finish line with a Jenneau 41. We had a laugh about it afterwards over a beer, where he mentioned that he though his brand new bigger boat would just sail straight over the top of me and was surprised that he couldn't.
I came into keel boats from 1 design dinghy's. You don't survive long in one designs not knowing the rules and developing some race craft. The rules still apply the same to fast and slow boats and my race is just as important as anyone else's.
