Hi all, thought I'd introduce myself seeing as I'll be on here quite a bit over the next few months. Looking to buy a 28'+ boat for 20K max (aiming for less) for going to Indonesia and beyond in June-August. I'm never bought a boat here in Oz so I'll be asking lots of questions on the Oz boats. Cheers - Daithi
Select to expand quotedreamerdwnunder said..Ramona said..sydchris said..
Back on the market - www.ebay.com.au/itm/32-steel-yacht-raced-in-Sydney-hobart-/184149485301
Not sure what is happening with this one. The winning bidder from eBay failed to materialize. Has heaps of quality gear.
Must have showed up because the auction has now been pulled:
" This listing was ended by the seller because the item is no longer available"
It's still available. The new owner who bought it a few weeks ago bought a second yacht and wants this one gone for the mooring.
A sign of the times.
www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/cervantes/sail-boats/1106-farr-yacht-new-headsail-and-mailsail-standing-rigging/1239923054
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A sign of the times.
www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/cervantes/sail-boats/1106-farr-yacht-new-headsail-and-mailsail-standing-rigging/1239923054
That's WA though, boom and bust according to what is happening in the mining World. Back loaded freight to the East is relatively cheap, so could be a good buy for someone.
Select to expand quoteRamona said..
A sign of the times.
www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/cervantes/sail-boats/1106-farr-yacht-new-headsail-and-mailsail-standing-rigging/1239923054
Hi, new poster here. Been lurking for a while and checking out the boats you blokes have been listing. I cant work out what this boat is, it isn't an 1104 or an 11.6 as far as I can tell (forward mounted engine flat decks etc) . It seems closest to a Farr 37 but the transom and cockpit are quite different. It doesn't seem to be from a mould as well. Where many of these boats custom made?
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Mike
Select to expand quoteMikeNT said..Ramona said..
A sign of the times.
www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/cervantes/sail-boats/1106-farr-yacht-new-headsail-and-mailsail-standing-rigging/1239923054
Hi, new poster here. Been lurking for a while and checking out the boats you blokes have been listing. I cant work out what this boat is, it isn't an 1104 or an 11.6 as far as I can tell (forward mounted engine flat decks etc) . It seems closest to a Farr 37 but the transom and cockpit are quite different. It doesn't seem to be from a mould as well. Where many of these boats custom made?
edit seller has posted more photos
Mike
It is ****ing unicorn.
Seriously!
Looks like a variation of the 77 centre boarders but I thought only 3 come in to Australia and one was built here.
So make that two
looks glass grp hull and ply decks so someone had a mould somewhere
IRC weapon if refurbished.
Is this the old Scallywag II which won the 1982 Hobart Race, ex Smirnoff Agen and Vanguard? See here
www.histoiredeshalfs.com/One%20Tonner/OFa%2038%20Smirnoff.htm
rbsailing.blogspot.com/2013/05/smir-noff-agen-farr-one-tonner.html
I was on a Farr 11.6 same race and finished just behind them 3am in the morning after a hard running race - they had a blinder.
They were a centreboarder then but the first link shows trucking off to Dubai from Mermaid Beach for a make-over and maybe then the fixed keel was put on instead of the centreboarder...........
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Is this the old Scallywag II which won the 1982 Hobart Race, ex Smirnoff Agen and Vanguard? See here
www.histoiredeshalfs.com/One%20Tonner/OFa%2038%20Smirnoff.htm
rbsailing.blogspot.com/2013/05/smir-noff-agen-farr-one-tonner.html
I was on a Farr 11.6 same race and finished just behind them 3am in the morning after a hard running race - they had a blinder.
They were a centreboarder then but the first link shows trucking off to Dubai from Mermaid Beach for a make-over and maybe then the fixed keel was put on instead of the centreboarder...........
Only if the cabin was lengthened.
Select to expand quoteRamona said..r13 said..
Is this the old Scallywag II which won the 1982 Hobart Race, ex Smirnoff Agen and Vanguard? See here
www.histoiredeshalfs.com/One%20Tonner/OFa%2038%20Smirnoff.htm
rbsailing.blogspot.com/2013/05/smir-noff-agen-farr-one-tonner.html
I was on a Farr 11.6 same race and finished just behind them 3am in the morning after a hard running race - they had a blinder.
They were a centreboarder then but the first link shows trucking off to Dubai from Mermaid Beach for a make-over and maybe then the fixed keel was put on instead of the centreboarder...........
Only if the cabin was lengthened.
Scally was cold moulded
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I'm surprised that you haven't been up there and nabbed it yet.
That ain't no assett, but for a $3g spend it could be turned into a nice thing.
I wonder if it has a spinnaker pole or two to form the mast raising gear??
Sweet little yacht though. The mooring it is minding is big enough for a battle ship. 
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It may be that the old boats that have deteriorated will not be as desirable as before as mooring minders.
I think the latest effort by MSB to seriously audit the older looking boats and their moorings may have had a significant change in what people will want and be prepared to put on their moorings.
People are giving away their boats now because they can't sell them for much or don't have the time to sail them.
Many reasons really.
As they say 'we live in interesting times'.
r
Select to expand quoteLooseChange said..
I'm surprised that you haven't been up there and nabbed it yet.
It's just one of many tempting boats!
www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/lavender-bay/sail-boats/23-boat-mooring-in-sydney-harbour-spectacular-location-/1235775675
nice location
Oldy but a real nice boat.
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/duncanson-35-classic-design-work-required/243292
Nice to be sure, and a good fit out, but I just gotta know one thing - how does an engine fitted 17 odd years ago get called new? Surely new implies zero or minimum hours? 
or did I just read it wrong.
Select to expand quoteAzureF305 said..
Nice to be sure, and a good fit out, but I just gotta know one thing - how does an engine fitted 17 odd years ago get called new? Surely new implies zero or minimum hours? or did I just read it wrong.
Just need a new compass and it's a bargain. Teak decks and timber cabin possibly a few cans of worms in that old girl. I think they meant the Volvo was new in 2003!
Select to expand quotesouthace said..AzureF305 said..
Nice to be sure, and a good fit out, but I just gotta know one thing - how does an engine fitted 17 odd years ago get called new? Surely new implies zero or minimum hours? or did I just read it wrong.
Just need a new compass and it's a bargain. Teak decks and timber cabin possibly a few cans of worms in that old girl. I think they meant the Volvo was new in 2003!
I noticed that compass too :) wonder if it works under that plastic...
Select to expand quoteAzureF305 said..
Nice to be sure, and a good fit out, but I just gotta know one thing - how does an engine fitted 17 odd years ago get called new? Surely new implies zero or minimum hours? or did I just read it wrong.
It should probably read "engine is not the original". Yes there are some small problems but she is a classy boat.
Select to expand quotelydia said..MikeNT said..Ramona said..
A sign of the times.
www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/cervantes/sail-boats/1106-farr-yacht-new-headsail-and-mailsail-standing-rigging/1239923054
Hi, new poster here. Been lurking for a while and checking out the boats you blokes have been listing. I cant work out what this boat is, it isn't an 1104 or an 11.6 as far as I can tell (forward mounted engine flat decks etc) . It seems closest to a Farr 37 but the transom and cockpit are quite different. It doesn't seem to be from a mould as well. Where many of these boats custom made?
edit seller has posted more photos
Mike
It is ****ing unicorn.
Seriously!
Looks like a variation of the 77 centre boarders but I thought only 3 come in to Australia and one was built here.
So make that two
looks glass grp hull and ply decks so someone had a mould somewhere
IRC weapon if refurbished.
Yep, not an 11.6 or 1104.
There were at least two other Farr IOR boats around that size range and design era; Le Truck from Perth and Hot Property, initially from Perth and in Tassy last I saw. I think HP is a later "Migizi" style boat, similar to a lighter fractional-rig Farr 37. The boat for sale could be Le Truck which was earlier than HP and basically a keel version of the '77 boats, if I recall correctly.
EDIT - I think there's actually a third one, also in WA and also of the "Migizi" style, if I recall correctly but I can't recall the name at the moment. She's in good condition and was for sale a year or two back.
Select to expand quoteBundeenabuoy said..
It may be that the old boats that have deteriorated will not be as desirable as before as mooring minders.
I think the latest effort by MSB to seriously audit the older looking boats and their moorings may have had a significant change in what people will want and be prepared to put on their moorings.
People are giving away their boats now because they can't sell them for much or don't have the time to sail them.
Many reasons really.
As they say 'we live in interesting times'.
r
I've spent a few weekends sailing in Sydney recently. One thing I notice is that while most boats these days are big and shiny, late in the afternoons when the huge stinkboats have gone home, one sees scruffy old production yachts of 25 feet or so heading out. Almost all of them look rough. Most are not well sailed. They seem to be used by guys about 40-50, normally sailing alone, who don't look particularly affluent.
I've got a suspicion that these guys would not have thought they could have afforded a boat a while back, but now that mooring minders are going cheap as chips they have been able to afford their dreams. They may never have sailed, but may have spent decades wishing they could. Now those boats are getting used, and their new owners (if that's what's happening) are realising their dreams. It's wonderful, if true.
Select to expand quoteChris 249 said..
I've spent a few weekends sailing in Sydney recently. One thing I notice is that while most boats these days are big and shiny, late in the afternoons when the huge stinkboats have gone home, one sees scruffy old production yachts of 25 feet or so heading out. Almost all of them look rough. Most are not well sailed. They seem to be used by guys about 40-50, normally sailing alone, who don't look particularly affluent.
I've got a suspicion that these guys would not have thought they could have afforded a boat a while back, but now that mooring minders are going cheap as chips they have been able to afford their dreams. They may never have sailed, but may have spent decades wishing they could. Now those boats are getting used, and their new owners (if that's what's happening) are realising their dreams. It's wonderful, if true.
Well that describes me lol.. Mid fifties never sailed lol looking for an old boat.. (probably going to stay a dream but heck it's fun)
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Well that describes me lol.. Mid fifties never sailed lol looking for an old boat.. (probably going to stay a dream but heck it's fun)
The enjoyment from sailing is inversely proportional to how much you spend!
Go and pick up that Holland 25!
Select to expand quoteChris 249 said..I've spent a few weekends sailing in Sydney recently. One thing I notice is that while most boats these days are big and shiny, late in the afternoons when the huge stinkboats have gone home, one sees scruffy old production yachts of 25 feet or so heading out. Almost all of them look rough. Most are not well sailed. They seem to be used by guys about 40-50, normally sailing alone, who don't look particularly affluent.
I've got a suspicion that these guys would not have thought they could have afforded a boat a while back, but now that mooring minders are going cheap as chips they have been able to afford their dreams. They may never have sailed, but may have spent decades wishing they could. Now those boats are getting used, and their new owners (if that's what's happening) are realising their dreams. It's wonderful, if true.
I think you're on the money. 11 years ago, I was in the same situation, the bride thought boats were too expensive to buy and maintain. So I bought a reasonable Top Hat for $10k. It's probably not worth half that now, because while it's no worse than it was when we got it, it's not been improved that much either. Just maintained. So far, we've not spent more than another $13k in 10 years including insurance/mooring/slipping.
She's been from Pittwater to Lake Macquarie a few times, to Sydney a few times and whilst she's still slow, the view at the cocktail hour is the same as yours, or anyone elses.... We're on the water and that's what counts, especially if you don't have a lot of spare to splash around.
Select to expand quoteAzureF305 said..
Nice to be sure, and a good fit out, but I just gotta know one thing - how does an engine fitted 17 odd years ago get called new? Surely new implies zero or minimum hours? or did I just read it wrong.
This is typical broker speak. If the engine was replaced from the 40+ year old original, then it is "new".
It's beautiful though I wouldn't like the maintenance.
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/-sunstone-classic-s-s-40-design-1786/237081
