Any other suggestions for online boat sales ?....I got the Hub, Boat point,yacht world and gumtree! It's doing my head in waiting for new boats to view!
There is this one but I think it is a subsiduary of Yacht Hub as Boat Sales is a sub of Boat Point.
www.boatsonline.com.au/
I was under the impression that you had already found next yacht but of course you have to sell your current yacht first.
Therein lies the main problem. If you keep sailing around it makes it hard for somebody to buy it and if you are living onboard prospective buyers might feel they are intruding when coming to inspect the yacht.
Have you worked out a marketing strategy yet??
I'm close to selling my yacht I hope with another buyer having a look and there is talk of a test sail. But really there are not that many bargains!
But I say the price has dropped by half on mono hulls in the last 5 years and maybe more to do with imports from the USA. Mine is only is $30,000 which really is bottom end on a big boat that is ready for a sea passage.
I'm thinking of digging in my heels when it come to price for I can't find better value online for size.
Hey Cisco I agree about personal junk on a boat as I keep cleaning mine out, presentation is key for sure in today's market.
Even having to anti fowl puts people off!
I have moved most of my gear approx 300kg ashore....she's a dry ship now other than guitars and cooking appliances. It takes time to buy as well as sell.....really the market is very slow. There's 850 boats over 40ft on the hub and only about 10 are under contract.
Out of 850 boats I only like 2 yachts one is under is under contract and the other is going to sell maybe before I sell my current boat.
But still it's a better choice than dealing with real estate I think.
Don't forget eBay. One of those boats we all lusted after! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yacht-winner-of-Sydney-Hobart-race-1973-/171232651056?pt=UK_Sporting_Goods_Sailing_Boats_ET&hash=item27de42e730
Gee it must have been great fun working the pit in those bird baths next to the primary winches going to hobart and the 79 fastnet.......Never understood the appeal of this setup. Fine on a 12m for round the cans at Newport, but for an offshore racer?
Maybe it was to keep the riffraff out of the cockpit?
er Southace, don't forget Seabreeze.
Its really great, large target audience, all of who'm are affiliated with water somehow, cheap rates, easy to use.....(that should do it
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No actually, I'd include Seabreeze as well, and have used it in the past for selling 2 boats.
Sometimes selling wise, there can be merit in being a big fish in a small pond.
boats.com and the Afloat magazine are useful resources to find boats not listed elsewhere.
I have decided not to look again at yacht hub till march 1st ! It's going to be just like giving up smoking!
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I have moved most of my gear approx 300kg ashore....she's a dry ship now other than guitars and cooking appliances. It takes time to buy as well as sell.....really the market is very slow. There's 850 boats over 40ft on the hub and only about 10 are under contract.
Out of 850 boats I only like 2 yachts one is under is under contract and the other is going to sell maybe before I sell my current boat.
But still it's a better choice than dealing with real estate I think.
Better get those guitars ashore as well. They will be a distraction.
I think if a boat is presented like a bare boat ready to go on charter you are giving it the best chance for a sale.
If you think the yacht market is slow, you should see the real estate market here in Bundy. Had an agent to our place yesterday who said the market has dropped 10% over the last year and a third of the people he sees wanting to sell he recommends to hold on for another 3 to 5 years.
There is blood running in the streets of post flood Bundaberg.
Why only look in Australia when S.E. Asia is so close and handy. Especially as the cheap air fare season is just around the corner. Places like Singapore, Jahore Bahru, Langkawi and Phuket are full of boats that are for sale as people learned the hard way that the cruising life wasn't for them.
I was sitting in Royal Langkawi yacht club last year and was talking to a chap from Darwin who was there with his wife, he said that nearly at any given time half the boats in the marina are for sale. The same appeared to be the case in Telaga Harbour, many boats for sale. The only real problem I could see was that if the boat had been there for a considerable amount of time, the climate had not been kind to it due to the high humidity, of course the same applies anywhere in S.E. Asia.
I have tried searching there....what site would they advertise? I can't see any on yacht world.
I have been talked out of buying a boat from the states and it seems like it will cost me way more than my budget. This is the boat I was looking at importing.
www.yachtworld.com/boats-for-sale/make-hunter/model-45-center-cockpit/
But yes Asia would be the place to buy but I can't seem to find any on the net in that region apart from the odd one on yacht hub.
Actually does anyone know about Gst? Do we charge or pay Gst on private boat sales? I have been told its 10% Gst if I import a second hand boat.
Most yachts on the net don't seem to have Gst on the price? I'm a little confused? Is it any item over a certain price perhaps?
No GST on private sales, providing the transaction is handled wholly by the buyer and the seller without the intervention of lawyers and the like. If there are any government charges after the sale, then on those there will be a GST component eg. Stamp Duty. If the sale is handled by a used boat dealer then his price should already include GST as it is illegal to show a price without GST.
www.yachtbroker-charters.com/ (Langkawi)
www.pippenmarine.com/ (Langkawi)
langkawibss.com/ (Langkawi)
phuket.boatshed.com/ (Thailand)
www.leemarine.com/ (Thailand)
mdbsaustralia.com/ (Thailand)
That should give you something to look at.
Have you considered Auction , Southace ? I'm sitting here at Rivergate Marina , and there seems to be an ' on water ' auction about ea. 2 months. In fact there is an auction this Saturday. There are no monos lined up at present , just a cat. and several power craft. At the last auction there was a very smart Beneteau 40. Seemed to go at $180g. Of interest ,the ship that transports yachts , by sea , arrived this week. Several boats from USA , brought in by owners. I'll be watching the auction if you need any feedback. Cheers, Bob
I just got a offer for $30k the buyer says he will give me 30 k for my 70k yacht unseen.........hahahahahaha
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Have you considered Auction , Southace ? I'm sitting here at Rivergate Marina , and there seems to be an ' on water ' auction about ea. 2 months. In fact there is an auction this Saturday. There are no monos lined up at present , just a cat. and several power craft. At the last auction there was a very smart Beneteau 40. Seemed to go at $180g. Of interest ,the ship that transports yachts , by sea , arrived this week. Several boats from USA , brought in by owners. I'll be watching the auction if you need any feedback. Cheers, Bob
Bob from what I have read those transport ships can cost up to. 40k then you have all the hidden cost on top. If the total cost was 20k deliverd I would seriously look into that option.
Life's a bastard sometimes , Mate ! I've been in that position- my $ 160g (my estimate ) Crowther , selling 2 years later for $ 90 g. Cost me a lot to hold it at a marina in that time !! My thoughts at the time, ' at least I can move on, and with the cash , strike a better deal on my new boat '.
I'm sure you've considered this , it's a fair cow all right !
It's typical for gumtree already got another asking to swap 5 acres plus cash for my boat. I doubt this type even know how to tie a bowline yet.....hahaha.
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I just got a offer for $30k the buyer says he will give me 30 k for my 70k yacht unseen.........hahahahahaha
It's market value they would say! Like having to pay $500,000 for a house that was half that seven years ago, with hindsight we all be rich.
Send him my way with his thirty grand, no kidding as I was showing this guy my boat the other day I thought NO I'm not coming down for iv priced it right! Sure Valkyrie was a $60,000 boat once but things have changed and if i was buying again I would be tough too.
Southace there is a Beneteau 40 in Melbourne coming on the market. It is supposed to be in pretty good nic. It could be right up you ally as it is a center cockpit with shoal draft. I think it is about 12 years old. He offered it to me as a trade for my boat. I believe you would get it around the 150k mark. He is coming up to look at my boat next week, let me know if you want his details and I can get them off him when he comes. That boat that BobFord mentioned from Rivergate was in fairly poor condition. The bloke that bought it had it up on the slip at Scarborough just after he bought it in December while I had my boat up. He was up for a lot of repairs before he was sailing in back to WA.
I'm getting rather fussy!
I'm looking for 42 ft to 45ft , 2005 and upwards , ducted aircon, prefer 2 cabin, leather upolstery , CC but am open for aft cockpit....cockpit dodger and clears....possible washing machine! 220k max....
I'm starting to like the look of this one that just came online! http://yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/jeanneau-sun-odyssey-43/146117
Southace
I spent 12 months plus looking for the boat that suited me.
Bought a 2008 Delphia 40. Looked at all the options. Boats certainly appear cheaper in Europe or the USA but getting it here is a whole different story. Transport alone can be 40~70K unless you sail it yourself. (do you have the time??)
Buy in Australia!! Lots of boats and good value.
Happy Hunting..
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Southace
I spent 12 months plus looking for the boat that suited me.
Bought a 2008 Delphia 40. Looked at all the options. Boats certainly appear cheaper in Europe or the USA but getting it here is a whole different story. Transport alone can be 40~70K unless you sail it yourself. (do you have the time??)
Buy in Australia!! Lots of boats and good value.
Happy Hunting..
I have seen a couple of those Delpia 40s please do tell? Where are they produced ? Are they more a racer/cruiser? My opinon was the interior looked very square and futuristic.
Yes 40 to 70 k for the shipping what a waste of dollars!
The Delphia is built in Poland. Great reviews. Blue water Cruising boat RCD Cat A,
Have only owned her a few months moved her from Newcastle to Brisbane over Christmas. Performed well. Will be bringing her around to Perth over the next 12 months.
Strong and sails to windward fast and high. Seems to be a bit more substantial than the beneteau and jeanneau. Each to there own.
I too looked at that boat. Even made an offer. They wouldn't come to the party.
It is a 3 cabin version which cuts down on your space in the saloon area. If you want to accommodate those numbers then that is a good option.
I purchased the 2 cabin which gives loads more storage space.
The price of this boat has dropped substantially. I bet they wish they had accepted my original offer now
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The cast iron keel may require a little more care and maintenance but what other concerns do you have regarding this??
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I too looked at that boat. Even made an offer. They wouldn't come to the party.
It is a 3 cabin version which cuts down on your space in the saloon area. If you want to accommodate those numbers then that is a good option.
I purchased the 2 cabin which gives loads more storage space.
The price of this boat has dropped substantially. I bet they wish they had accepted my original offer now.
The cast iron keel may require a little more care and maintenance but what other concerns do you have regarding this??
Yes I just checked 3 models out 2 cabin layout much better. I have a feeling that one was a bareboat in the Whitsunday's from my sketchy memory.
Hand laid hull .......sounds like they are well built and sail well.
Cast iron is lighter then lead does it have a bolb keel?
I'm sure they have some good industrial coatings on the keel no doubt. I just prefer lead.
