Forums > Sailing General

Australian cruising yachts with good sea motion - Help needed!

Reply
Created by BluewaterBound > 9 months ago, 2 Aug 2020
BluewaterBound
VIC, 85 posts
9 Aug 2020 10:10AM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
wildemann said..
Is this the same design Adams?
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/adams-traditional-36/238317
It's local (Vic/ port Phillip bay) where BlueWaterBound is. Somewhat bigger and than what he stated he was looking for though.
i crewed on this particular boat one or twice. It was a long, long time ago.


That's a nice looking boat Wildemann. Originally I thought I'd buy a boat around 28ft for about $20k, then re-rig and re-power within the first couple of years - that would bring the boat up to about $35k, not counting the usual repairs/slipping etc etc. But this boat has two-year-old rigging and a motor that could last a long time (28hp Volvo, 460hrs) so the sums start to look comparable. And I wouldn't be banging my head below

Perry500
NSW, 66 posts
9 Aug 2020 10:43AM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
BluewaterBound said..




Thanks Cisco - yes, these keep popping up in my Swanson 32 searches. They are nice looking boats. My original size preference was based on solo-cruising experiences in the RL24. I can pull up the anchor by hand even in a swift tidal current, stow the jib without getting knocked about in 15 knots and reef the main manually. So to get into a smallish keel boat, I guess I was hoping to keep things simple and manual. But then I do want to safely cross to Tassie and get up to NSW, Qld and SA in time. The posts on this blog help to illustrate that LWL makes a big difference to speed and comfort, and being 180cm tall I guess I would get sick of a really small boat before long. The other factor is cost, so again I'd been told that keeping it small would save a lot. On the other hand, when you get to the end of your sailing life, I guess you don't look back and say "gee, I'm glad I saved a couple of thousand a year"


Brilliant sea kindly yachts, the 32 and esp the 36 Swanson, one of the best rides I have ever had.
I believe the Arends 33 is based on the Swanson 36 hull.

Bruceinoz
9 posts
10 Aug 2020 8:38AM
Thumbs Up

I have a Cav32 that I love sailing. Great boat. My old nemesis in the club racing here had a Swanson 32 with the 36 cabin (I hope I've got that right). I never could catch the bugger. Climbed beautifully. Super strong and fast boat...but the Cav works for me.
Cheers

r13
NSW, 1712 posts
10 Aug 2020 11:23AM
Thumbs Up

Note that this advert states that the Arends 33 is a Ron Swanson design.

www.sydneymarinebrokerage.com/listing/arends-33

BluewaterBound
VIC, 85 posts
18 Aug 2020 9:23AM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
r13 said..
Note that this advert states that the Arends 33 is a Ron Swanson design.

www.sydneymarinebrokerage.com/listing/arends-33


Yes - a beautiful design. I think an Arends 33 would suit my needs perfectly, though they do tend to be pretty pricey. The Cav 32s are more affordable. One thing I can say is that reading all the comments on this forum is convincing me to skip smaller boats in the 27/28 size and think about investing a bit more to get a 32/33/34 sized boat. My club has a set fee for its berths up to 10m, so something like a Cav 32 would fit the "not too small, but not too big" measure. Thanks to all the commenters on this post - great forum!

DrogueOne
215 posts
18 Aug 2020 9:32AM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
BluewaterBound said..
One thing I can say is that reading all the comments on this forum is convincing me to skip smaller boats in the 27/28 size and think about investing a bit more to get a 32/33/34 sized boat.


Interesting, Forums do tend to develop a hive mind. Some nice looking boats in the suggestions. I'm not really familiar with Australian designers so I have been reading along with interest. If you want extra eyeballs when you are able to look again I would be happy to come along, doing some survey training at the moment to fill the days.

Ramona
NSW, 7727 posts
18 Aug 2020 5:56PM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
BluewaterBound said..

r13 said..
Note that this advert states that the Arends 33 is a Ron Swanson design.

www.sydneymarinebrokerage.com/listing/arends-33



Yes - a beautiful design. I think an Arends 33 would suit my needs perfectly, though they do tend to be pretty pricey. The Cav 32s are more affordable. One thing I can say is that reading all the comments on this forum is convincing me to skip smaller boats in the 27/28 size and think about investing a bit more to get a 32/33/34 sized boat. My club has a set fee for its berths up to 10m, so something like a Cav 32 would fit the "not too small, but not too big" measure. Thanks to all the commenters on this post - great forum!


Nice NZ Cav32

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/cavalier-32/250739

BluewaterBound
VIC, 85 posts
21 Aug 2020 10:46AM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
Ramona said..

BluewaterBound said..


r13 said..
Note that this advert states that the Arends 33 is a Ron Swanson design.

www.sydneymarinebrokerage.com/listing/arends-33




Yes - a beautiful design. I think an Arends 33 would suit my needs perfectly, though they do tend to be pretty pricey. The Cav 32s are more affordable. One thing I can say is that reading all the comments on this forum is convincing me to skip smaller boats in the 27/28 size and think about investing a bit more to get a 32/33/34 sized boat. My club has a set fee for its berths up to 10m, so something like a Cav 32 would fit the "not too small, but not too big" measure. Thanks to all the commenters on this post - great forum!



Nice NZ Cav32

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/cavalier-32/250739


Looks like that one's been snapped up already. I'm in lock-down in Melbourne, so no chance to get to boats like this, and even if I shipped it, my club can't accept any deliveries. Very frustrating. I note that boat had an NZ rig, so a shorted mast and less sail area. I think that's the rig I'd prefer for solo sailing

BluewaterBound
VIC, 85 posts
21 Aug 2020 10:48AM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
DrogueOne said..

BluewaterBound said..
One thing I can say is that reading all the comments on this forum is convincing me to skip smaller boats in the 27/28 size and think about investing a bit more to get a 32/33/34 sized boat.



Interesting, Forums do tend to develop a hive mind. Some nice looking boats in the suggestions. I'm not really familiar with Australian designers so I have been reading along with interest. If you want extra eyeballs when you are able to look again I would be happy to come along, doing some survey training at the moment to fill the days.


Thanks DrogueOne. Lock-down in Melbourne is very frustrating - can't see anything for a few weeks yet

wildemann
VIC, 80 posts
21 Aug 2020 1:27PM
Thumbs Up

Another one like it, and in your local area.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/cavalier-32/250987

BluewaterBound
VIC, 85 posts
12 Jan 2021 10:07PM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
BluewaterBound said..

Ramona said..


BluewaterBound said..



r13 said..
Note that this advert states that the Arends 33 is a Ron Swanson design.

www.sydneymarinebrokerage.com/listing/arends-33





Yes - a beautiful design. I think an Arends 33 would suit my needs perfectly, though they do tend to be pretty pricey. The Cav 32s are more affordable. One thing I can say is that reading all the comments on this forum is convincing me to skip smaller boats in the 27/28 size and think about investing a bit more to get a 32/33/34 sized boat. My club has a set fee for its berths up to 10m, so something like a Cav 32 would fit the "not too small, but not too big" measure. Thanks to all the commenters on this post - great forum!




Nice NZ Cav32

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/cavalier-32/250739



Looks like that one's been snapped up already. I'm in lock-down in Melbourne, so no chance to get to boats like this, and even if I shipped it, my club can't accept any deliveries. Very frustrating. I note that boat had an NZ rig, so a shorted mast and less sail area. I think that's the rig I'd prefer for solo sailing


For those who remember this thread a few months back ... lock-down ended and I was able to go and inspect, and buy this Ted Brewer boat in Adelaide. www.38southboatsales.com.au/listing/1986-nimble-30/This very boat has crossed the Atlantic and Pacific with its first owner, and even appeared in a few magazine ads for navigation gear etc. I'm still rigging and testing after its truck-ride from Adelaide, but it is a really cleverly thought out cruising boat with huge capacity for gear, water, diesel etc. I'm chuffed. So not an Aussie classic, but just what I need to try bluewater sailing (when my skills have improved a bit more). Arriving at Williamstown ... Rob Johns Transport was very helpful and well priced...

Thanks to all who advised me along the way to this purchase!

r13
NSW, 1712 posts
12 Jan 2021 10:42PM
Thumbs Up

Super well done right there, including virtually new diesel and new rigging in 2016. Really like the deep forefoot of the bow and the balance the volume under the canoe stern gives to the bow and the whole hull lines - probably a good prismatic coefficient for deep sea, and the ideal proportions between cabin and cockpit size.

Ted Brewer did some great yachts.

www.tedbrewer.com/ted.html

wildemann
VIC, 80 posts
13 Jan 2021 11:40AM
Thumbs Up

Looks good.
I'll keep an eye out for you when I'm in that part of the bay.

DrogueOne
215 posts
15 Jan 2021 6:53AM
Thumbs Up

Congratulations, looks very nice. A real "down east" looking boat there.
Is she rigged as a sloop or a yawl? Pictures on the web show both while the design brief says yawl.

BluewaterBound
VIC, 85 posts
16 Jan 2021 10:25PM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
DrogueOne said..
Congratulations, looks very nice. A real "down east" looking boat there.
Is she rigged as a sloop or a yawl? Pictures on the web show both while the design brief says yawl.


Hi DrogueOne - there were only 29 built, and most were yawls. This one must have been among the first few built, and was set up as a sloop. Some were also built with a stub-keel which could be added to under way with a swing keel. Mine would be fairly easy to convert to a yawl - the seller showed me where the reinforced mount is - but certainly for the next few years I'm happier with a sloop. It has an inner forestay with one of those very large quick-release levers, so I guess the idea is to move that stay out of the way for easy sailing - i.e. just use the roller-furler on the forestay. But for long passages the inner forestay would be used for an additional jib (gull winged with the two deck-mounted spinnaker poles) or a storm jib when it's too windy for the furler. Overall, very simple, very strongly rigged - perfect for solo sailing. I intend to take crew when available, but being able to 'just go' is part of the attraction of this boat



Subscribe
Reply

Forums > Sailing General


"Australian cruising yachts with good sea motion - Help needed!" started by BluewaterBound