Went out last night to try out my new 5'8x18 1/2 SB ,waves were small 1m but had a ripper ride,smacking lips flat out cutbacks loop flips 1 1/2 loop to toe sides ,hadn't used a SB for a couple of months so was giving it a caining, loved it, while I was out there were 3 "surfers" on mals trying to catch a wave for over an hour sitting paddling and freezing in the whole time I was out none of them caught a decent run yet I had 2 hours of non stop riding in my opinion I was the only one "surfing" even if some wouldn't class it as "surfing" I know I was having a hell of a lot more fun.
Select to expand quoteradman4 said..
None of them caught a decent run yet I had 2 hours of non stop riding in my opinion I was the only one "KITING" even if some wouldn't class it as "surfing" I know I was having a hell of a lot more fun.
FIXED.
p.s.
I don't understand why people feel the need to claim they are Surfing... Kiting is the whole reason why the majority of you are having so much fun, embrace it!
Select to expand quotesir ROWDY said..radman4 said..
None of them caught a decent run yet I had 2 hours of non stop riding in my opinion I was the only one "KITING" even if some wouldn't class it as "surfing" I know I was having a hell of a lot more fun.
FIXED.
p.s.
I don't understand why people feel the need to claim they are Surfing... Kiting is the whole reason why the majority of you are having so much fun, embrace it!
i won't argue the point ,from a purist point of view your correct, if I had clean barrels to surf here you wouldn't get me off the water,but the only time we get big clean surf is with wind so hence the choice, although we do get some awesome glassy summer SUP sessions head high.
Boys... read the forum heading.
We are in the kiteSURFING section. We are kitesurfing...... surfing waves with a kite = kitesurfing......
PS I am in one the best locations in the world for surfing on any give week you easily get clean well formed waves within 30 mins drive. Usually 5 mins drive.
But I choose to kitesurf. For me its way way way more fun. But I am not a waterman like lots of you guys. I don't have the urge to be in the water because of waters sake. I don't aim to look for other water activities when the wind is light.I am a kiter and have the urge to kite because of kiting sake. That is why I kite land and water. I don't care what i'm kiting over as long as I am kiting.
Select to expand quotePlummet said..
Boys... read the forum heading.
We are in the kiteSURFING section. We are kitesurfing...... surfing waves with a kite = kitesurfing......
Wrong.
Getting pulled by a kite with a board (for all intensive purposes) is the sport known as "Kitesurfing"... In most peoples minds you don't even need waves to be "kitesurfing".
p.s.
Which is why "Kitesurfing" as a name used to describe this sport is kind of flawed and misleading. The offical name of this sport (and forum) should actually be "Kiteboarding".
I would say kiting has improved my surfing. But it's surfing that really improves your surfing. I'm off for a paddle now.
Whose getting trivial now sir Rowdy....lol...
I agree with you though. You are kiteboarding in the waves. You are in the surf. Dear me we are getting caught up in semantics
....oh well good discussion.
In the end I would still choose a good kite over a good surf.
Yesterday first taste of summer....clear blue skies a thermal sea breeze and yet with a local break A framing it ass off. Sweet.
Yes. At the end of the who really cares what you call what you are doing as long as your grinning.
When i'm on a wave face and I feel the push of the wave I choose to call it surfing the wave. I can ride that wave until my lines go slack and the kite falls out of the sky yet I am still riding the wave.... magically doing as it seems because apparently I am not "surfing" the wave. What's even more offensive to the purist surfer I'm doing it one a mutant or TT.... Again apparently it is impossible to "surf" waves on such boards....Hell as I have discovered in the last couple I days I can even surf the wave on my monster light wind door.
There will be some dead surfers rolling around in there graves because of the unconventional activities I undertake on the wave face. but what do I care?
I'm grinning and having fun.
I think you're missing the point... No one outside this thread really cares whether you are or are not "surfing". You are free to do what you want everyday and no one is judging or stopping you from doing it. No "purists" or "dead surfers" could care less what you are doing, this whole topic about whether you are surfing or not is just trivial nonsense so don't worry too much about it 
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p.s. And I wouldn't worry about other kiters telling you you aren't "surfing" on your TT or Mutant, because they aren't "surfing" behind their kites on their surfboards either haha.
Glad we cleared up that kitesurfing isn't surfing. Who would of thought they were different
After all that has anyone learnt to surf from kiting
Select to expand quoteTurtleHunter said..
After all that has anyone learnt to surf from kiting
I do actually know a couple of people who took up surfing after learning to kite first. However I don't think they learnt to surf from kiting (so to speak), but I do think that the board skills used kiting helped them a little bit.
Much like skateboarding might help you to wakeskate, or snow sking might help you rollerblade, but they're still not really the same things.
LOL caught me hook line and sinker again...
AND, you know what really grinds my gears?!!
....I like how people always have to steer the topic towards themselves. Either for self validation, or to convince others they are right, I'm not sure which?
Especially when the original topic was not about who is right or wrong but more so about 'who did what i was doing and got a lot of stoke from it'. I don't read anywhere there that he was asking for conformation on the definition of the 'doing' part. Yes he was 'doing' something, and trying to describe it too!! and most people on here got the gist of that and replied accordingly.
I guess perception is one hell of a muthaF$%ka that creates a different picture in the minds of different people who read the same words on a page....in this case twisting the topic into an ego driven rant to prove ones self worth (or knowledge of a topic).
This was my personal perception of his words
Rob was obviously overjoyed at being enabled 'by using a kite' to ride the waves and churn it up a bit a la surfing style, more so than he had ever done before with other means, and was seeking to know if anyone else was like him and had the same sort of personal experience.
and my response
yeah Rob I feel the same way....I was never much of a surfer, too lazy for the paddling part and too bored with the sitting around waiting part, but now with a kite I really like riding the waves and tearing it up, it's cool fun. I don't think I would have ridden the waves the way I do without a kite as just surfing doesn't appeal to me.
Heck he even wrote a clause in there "I know the purist out there will pfffft at this and [b]I know I don't do the proper stuff but still..."[/b]
and still the guru's come out of the woodwork to spoil the stoke of someone trying to describe 'their own awesome experience with a kite and a board and a wave'.
heyjoe, "Hypocrite" - look it up.
You're digging for underlying motives and issues that just aren't there. Select to expand quoteI like how people always have to steer the topic towards themselves.
Would you like to outline exactly where? All I'm reading is some users with differing opinions putting forth their views.
As far as I can tell no one is talking about themselves or trying to "self validate" them self and if they were it would be the people that are claiming they are "surfing" for whatever reason that would be, although I don't believe they are doing this either.
The topic steered away from what was originally asked for a few reasons, that doesn't mean it is wrong or we shouldn't do it... This a forum and discussion can change direction at anytime, that's the whole reason for having a Forum and not a Question and Answer type setup.
The real problem was the original Post in this thread was poorly worded to begin with, the title of the thread asked one question while the text of the thread said another... this didn't help the direction the thread went, because no one really knew for sure what he was asking.
Obviously some people in this thread are at a disagreement and a debate has arisen, this is normal forum behavior and usually what you do in a debate situation is try and convince people in some way that what you are saying holds value or is correct. So I think you should start getting used to stuff like this you plan on reading much more internet dribble because internet-wide this is pretty common place.
I suggest for people like you (if you post in the future) if this kind of thing (people getting off topic) really annoys you that much, make sure you structure your first post as a short concise question. This will help eliminate miss-interpretation and hold back the meandering off topic that is bound to happen on the internet for at least a few posts.
Just some of my self validating thoughts...
Select to expand quotesir ROWDY said..Plummet said..
Boys... read the forum heading.
We are in the kiteSURFING section. We are kitesurfing...... surfing waves with a kite = kitesurfing......
Wrong.
Getting pulled by a kite with a board (for all intensive purposes) is the sport known as "Kitesurfing"... In most peoples minds you don't even need waves to be "kitesurfing".
p.s.
Which is why "Kitesurfing" as a name used to describe this sport is kind of flawed and misleading. The offical name of this sport (and forum) should actually be "Kiteboarding".
What about surfing the net. ....?
What about kitesurfing the net. ....?
Select to expand quotetheDoctor said..
What about kitesurfing the net. ....?
Isn't that what this forum section is?
Now i'm off to kiteSURF some waves.
Select to expand quotetheDoctor said..sir ROWDY said..Plummet said..
Boys... read the forum heading.
We are in the kiteSURFING section. We are kitesurfing...... surfing waves with a kite = kitesurfing......
Wrong.
Getting pulled by a kite with a board (for all intensive purposes) is the sport known as "Kitesurfing"... In most peoples minds you don't even need waves to be "kitesurfing".
p.s.
Which is why "Kitesurfing" as a name used to describe this sport is kind of flawed and misleading. The offical name of this sport (and forum) should actually be "Kiteboarding".
What about surfing the net. ....?
It's called "browsing", hence the reason you are using a browser to view this page, not a surfboard .
Hehe I guess we need to agree to disagree.... we can go around in circles literally for years.
Personally I think Sir Rowdy got it spot on when he said (paraphrasing),
Don't worry if people say you are not surfing on a TT or mutant, because behind a kite they aren't really surfing on a surfboard either.
We are all kiteboarding in the waves.
Done and dusted I think.
So you mean using my Skate Banana means im not actualky skateboarding on the snow? Im still snowboarding? Oh crap.
What about if im surfing, and its windy. The wind is off shore and grooming the waves thereby assisting my hobby. Surely that means im windsurfing?
No no wait. What about if im goatboating. Then im windgoating!! Sweet.
Select to expand quotecraggers said..
So you mean using my Skate Banana means im not actualky skateboarding on the snow? Im still snowboarding? Oh crap.
What about if im surfing, and its windy. The wind is off shore and grooming the waves thereby assisting my hobby. Surely that means im windsurfing?
No no wait. What about if im goatboating. Then im windgoating!! Sweet.
Yes and as it appears in this thread. If you are kitesurfing you are not actually kitesurfing. You are kiteboarding. you are not allowed to kitesurf because it offends the surfers.....
bollocks if I'm on a surfboard with my kite then I'm kitesurfing plain an simple yes I'm using a kite to tow me in but then I'm surfing the wave drifting the kite using the power of the wave ,it might not be purist "surfing"but it's still a form of surfing next you'll be splitting hairs saying paddle boarding is not a form of surfing, because your using a paddle to propel yourself onto the wave.
... apparently, a boogie board is more legit then, according to wikipedia! Kiting in waves is down the list! Yikes, we're less legit than boogie boards! 
Can I ask then, would being a surfer be a detriment to kiting in waves? I would expect most surfers are either 'goofy' or 'natural' stance and some times conditions would make you go in a direction that doesn't suit your style. Kiting allows you to visit so many different spots in such a short time, if you were 'stuck' in your ways, wouldn't being stuck in 'goofy' or 'natural' stance force you to use the waves less effectively. Supose it doesn't matter because 'effective use' of a wave is so subjective so who cares anyway. I don't know 'cause I don't surf.
So long as you got the stoke, its all cool ey!! Just a thought, is "stoke" a surfing term, are we allowed to use that???? Juz wonding is all?? 
cheers and still love kiting in waves,
Robbie
Wikipedia!?!?!?
Thats not real research!
You cant claim to know better unless you have been to a physical library, used the dewey decimal system to locate at least 4 hardbacked books, read the correct passage and cross referenced your findings. Only then can you claim any authority on what 'actualy factually' constitutes surfwaveriding. Please refrain from preaching your halfbaked wikipedic points of view as you have no right to partake in this intellectual debate amongst serious encyclopaedia reading fact armed philosophers.
... oh damn, did I get it wrong again!!! So what's this 'Library' do you speak of, dewey, is that hewey's little brother, did he boogie board, better check wikipedia and find out,,,, damn it, better do more research!!!!
You might learn to surf from kiting by using the following method:
1. Kite out thru the break and gybe onto a nice wall-ie wave.
2. Take the drop and crank a hard bottom turn.
3. Just before you carve into a snappy top turn, pull the trigger on your QR.
[Death-leash needs to be disconnected before you pull the pin.]
4. You are now free of the kite and you are officially surfing.
5. Repeat steps 1,2,3,4 until fully spent.
So is goat boating surfing ? Like, when you surf a wave ?
I grew up body surfing - no fins or hand ski. Weren't allowed to have equipment. It was seen as being a bit posh and that wasn't allowed, to be posh . Only the smart people had equipment. We were lucky to have boardies.
Even a wettie was frowned upon and this was southern SA coast
Bought my first wettie with 2 weeks work in the shearing shed and boy did that cause a stir.
So was this surfing or not cause In theory it's the purest form ? Body surfing in nothing but your togs until you were blue.
Didn't need a bloody board. Jeez , board surfers were a load of over equipped wankers back in the day. 
