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Created by puppetonastring > 9 months ago, 31 Dec 2017
cauncy
WA, 8407 posts
8 Jan 2018 9:24PM
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MDSXR6T said..

Plummet said.
I recon Eppo might be in the position I was in prior to job change. Don't like the job or the terrible management, but its convenient for kiting,,,, other job options = less convenience, less kiting.


I dont know... school teachers generally have it very good in WA if there not in a ****ty school. About 100k a year once you've been in the system for 7 or 8 years, fantastic job security, Monday- Friday, 12 weeks a year holidays, convenient to most lifestyles including family life etc etc


You forgot about dealing with kids

eppo
WA, 9688 posts
9 Jan 2018 9:36AM
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Well thanks for discussing my working life, caring mob aren't you lol.

The teenagers are the good part of the job.

Its all the other bullsh1t that has exponentially increased that has NOTHING to do with actually teaching and learning.

Not too mention the model we use to teach and learn has next to zero relevance to what the economy will need in 5-10 years. But the bean counters and left wing save the gay whale skirt wearers have well and truly got their parasitic teeth into education as well.

If you want to see the unchecked and unbalanced manifestation of the female mind, spend some time at any school.

Most of you lads would be running screaming madly for the hills within no time. The insanity is literally intoxicating.

Don't believe, me looks the stats on male participation in teaching.

Its all gone real pear shaped lads. And the kids are far worse off for it.

anyhow it's the best I could do to balance work and life. Being a metallurgist sucked major wang.

I'm sure there are smarter and more adventurous crew out there that have the work life balanced sorted.

Poida
WA, 1921 posts
9 Jan 2018 10:09AM
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being an engineer working in private enterprise I thought I could query wtf relevance a few maths questions in my kids tests were. The way some questions are worded are just strange. I now don't query anymore after I could not understand the explanation. I'm in another world it seems.

Some teachers just don't have any experience in any industry or understand what is required in the private and public world of business and work. I think this has now been shown statistically also.

hilly
WA, 7872 posts
9 Jan 2018 12:00PM
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Associate Principal at a large public school. Great job but no so much for kiting. Only poor teachers work 9 to 3 five days a week. We have mostly fantastic dedicated teachers who work really long hours marking and prepare work in their holidays.
Eppo if you cannot make the curriculum relevant for your students there is an issue with your teaching.
Poida if you are not happy with a teachers explanation you see their Head of Department or my equivalent. I am constantly talking to unhappy parents and usually can solve any issues.
Education is so important and should be supported not bagged at every opportunity.

MrFreeze
292 posts
9 Jan 2018 12:05PM
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eppo said..
Well thanks for discussing my working life, caring mob aren't you lol.

The teenagers are the good part of the job.

Its all the other bullsh1t that has exponentially increased that has NOTHING to do with actually teaching and learning.

Not too mention the model we use to teach and learn has next to zero relevance to what the economy will need in 5-10 years. But the bean counters and left wing save the gay whale skirt wearers have well and truly got their parasitic teeth into education as well.

If you want to see the unchecked and unbalanced manifestation of the female mind, spend some time at any school.

Most of you lads would be running screaming madly for the hills within no time. The insanity is literally intoxicating.

Don't believe, me looks the stats on male participation in teaching.

Its all gone real pear shaped lads. And the kids are far worse off for it.

anyhow it's the best I could do to balance work and life. Being a metallurgist sucked major wang.

I'm sure there are smarter and more adventurous crew out there that have the work life balanced sorted.


Hmmmmm, vastly improved articulation in comparison to the post that started the discussion fella. BTW how's the evolve going? You have all the toys :)

eppo
WA, 9688 posts
9 Jan 2018 12:51PM
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Poor Hilly. I'd say you are part and parcel of the problem from the sounds of it. Unlike most of the dipsh1ts I work with I have worked "in the real world" and quite frankly you and the rest of the establishment have no fckn clue.

History will I'll not be kind once the next couple of generations realise they have been led Down the path to the land of obsolete.

Just keep sitting at your desk and tick those boxes mate

MrFreeze
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9 Jan 2018 1:12PM
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eppo said..
Poor Hilly. I'd say you are part and parcel of the problem from the sounds of it. Unlike most of the dipsh1ts I work with I have worked "in the real world" and quite frankly you and the rest of the establishment have no fckn clue.

History will I'll not be kind once the next couple of generations realise they have been led Down the path to the land of obsolete.

Just keep sitting at your desk and tick those boxes mate


Hmmmmm, whoa whoa whoa big fella. Wind is in. Get out there and bust some big air and chill the (you know what) down.

hilly
WA, 7872 posts
9 Jan 2018 1:20PM
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eppo said..
Poor Hilly. I'd say you are part and parcel of the problem from the sounds of it. Unlike most of the dipsh1ts I work with I have worked "in the real world" and quite frankly you and the rest of the establishment have no fckn clue.

History will I'll not be kind once the next couple of generations realise they have been led Down the path to the land of obsolete.

Just keep sitting at your desk and tick those boxes mate


Time you got back into your "real world" then and got a real job.

Plummet
4862 posts
9 Jan 2018 5:52PM
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Hilly, there's something wrong with the system if teachers have to spend really long hours preparing and making curriculum relevent.

Eppo, by the sound of it you need a change. Even if only to a different school.

No A
mount of kiting I'd worth festering to death for.

cauncy
WA, 8407 posts
9 Jan 2018 8:11PM
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eppo said..

hilly said..


eppo said..
Poor Hilly. I'd say you are part and parcel of the problem from the sounds of it. Unlike most of the dipsh1ts I work with I have worked "in the real world" and quite frankly you and the rest of the establishment have no fckn clue.

History will I'll not be kind once the next couple of generations realise they have been led Down the path to the land of obsolete.

Just keep sitting at your desk and tick those boxes mate




Time you got back into your "real world" then and got a real job.



Nah Hilly someone's gotta keep it real for the kids around prentious admin' institutionalised fcks like you...

kids these days have well tuned bullsh1t meters. They know too well what's going on.

The problem is numbnuts like you have no clue. Keep stroking it bro'.

if anything, pricks like you need to spend some time in the real world to WAKE THE FCK UP. Education then might be actually relevant.

Cause you are leading these poor children into a world that doesn't exist anymore.


What Santa doesn't exist

mattkennedy
QLD, 287 posts
9 Jan 2018 10:12PM
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There she is

hilly
WA, 7872 posts
9 Jan 2018 10:10PM
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Plummet said..
Hilly, there's something wrong with the system if teachers have to spend really long hours preparing and making curriculum relevent.

Eppo, by the sound of it you need a change. Even if only to a different school.

No A
mount of kiting I'd worth festering to death for.


Curriculum has not changed much for a long time eg maths is maths. Kids have changed and are less accepting of lectures and need to be engaged. It is about real tasks and we prepare project learning engaging the community especially around STEM. My job is to make this work and support teachers with time and resources and it is very rewarding when it works. We get great integration with ECU and Curtin Uni in particular but it is hard work. With AI coming you do not want to be in a manual job. Yes preparing all this is hard work but no different than working in the "real world".

Chris_M
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10 Jan 2018 3:43AM
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hilly said..

eppo said..
Poor Hilly. I'd say you are part and parcel of the problem from the sounds of it. Unlike most of the dipsh1ts I work with I have worked "in the real world" and quite frankly you and the rest of the establishment have no fckn clue.

History will I'll not be kind once the next couple of generations realise they have been led Down the path to the land of obsolete.

Just keep sitting at your desk and tick those boxes mate



Time you got back into your "real world" then and got a real job.


Jeez, nice professionalism from the both of yas

I'd be avoiding sitting next to you at morning tea eppo because you sound like a bit of a whinger

And I'd be secretly hating your contrived attitude toward the staff Hilly. What principal tells his teachers to "get a real job"??? Appalling.

Disclaimer: I'm a high school teacher

hilly
WA, 7872 posts
10 Jan 2018 6:09AM
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Chris_M said..

hilly said..


eppo said..
Poor Hilly. I'd say you are part and parcel of the problem from the sounds of it. Unlike most of the dipsh1ts I work with I have worked "in the real world" and quite frankly you and the rest of the establishment have no fckn clue.

History will I'll not be kind once the next couple of generations realise they have been led Down the path to the land of obsolete.

Just keep sitting at your desk and tick those boxes mate




Time you got back into your "real world" then and got a real job.



Jeez, nice professionalism from the both of yas

I'd be avoiding sitting next to you at morning tea eppo because you sound like a bit of a whinger

And I'd be secretly hating your contrived attitude toward the staff Hilly. What principal tells his teachers to "get a real job"??? Appalling.

Disclaimer: I'm a high school teacher


Sorry you may have missed the sarcasm. I was referencing the previous comment that inferred people in my role have no "real world" experience. I would never suggest that as I believe teachers do a fantastic job.

oldbones
QLD, 114 posts
10 Jan 2018 8:13AM
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hilly said..

Plummet said..
Hilly, there's something wrong with the system if teachers have to spend really long hours preparing and making curriculum relevent.

Eppo, by the sound of it you need a change. Even if only to a different school.

No A
mount of kiting I'd worth festering to death for.



Curriculum has not changed much for a long time eg maths is maths. Kids have changed and are less accepting of lectures and need to be engaged. It is about real tasks and we prepare project learning engaging the community especially around STEM. My job is to make this work and support teachers with time and resources and it is very rewarding when it works. We get great integration with ECU and Curtin Uni in particular but it is hard work. With AI coming you do not want to be in a manual job. Yes preparing all this is hard work but no different than working in the "real world".


Hilly! Mate! I didn't understand much of that! And what I did understand I thought was BS. Too fluffy buddy.

hilly
WA, 7872 posts
10 Jan 2018 1:46PM
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oldbones said..

hilly said..


Plummet said..
Hilly, there's something wrong with the system if teachers have to spend really long hours preparing and making curriculum relevent.

Eppo, by the sound of it you need a change. Even if only to a different school.

No A
mount of kiting I'd worth festering to death for.




Curriculum has not changed much for a long time eg maths is maths. Kids have changed and are less accepting of lectures and need to be engaged. It is about real tasks and we prepare project learning engaging the community especially around STEM. My job is to make this work and support teachers with time and resources and it is very rewarding when it works. We get great integration with ECU and Curtin Uni in particular but it is hard work. With AI coming you do not want to be in a manual job. Yes preparing all this is hard work but no different than working in the "real world".



Hilly! Mate! I didn't understand much of that! And what I did understand I thought was BS. Too fluffy buddy.


Sorry buddy cannot dumb it down enough for Trump supporters

Back on topic - I would have thought Firey would be a good job. 4 on 4 off and 2 of the on shift is night work. But they all seem to get another job.

Poida
WA, 1921 posts
11 Jan 2018 10:12AM
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sounds like teaching and school principal may not rate as the dream job then, even with the large amount of time off.
Hilly, you must have your work cut out dealing with parents, teachers and kids. good luck.
Eppo, I'm sure it must come down to teaching at the end of the day, just put the other sh1t to the side.

Dream job would be to have wealthy parents that leave you a large lot of passive investments so you really don't do much other than sign the tax return each year and spend the returns.
A client of mine had a job to manage a share and property portfolio from a wealthy old lady, that passed away and left him in charge. Her only requirements that all the profit, after his fees, went to charity. He works 30hrs a week doing this.

Otherwise a work life balance is the best to work towards.

dachopper
WA, 1800 posts
14 Jan 2018 10:23PM
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puppetonastring said..
I reckon my new gig is pretty hard to beat. "Shore Water Sports" is a SUP & Kayak hire service operating off the beach at Shorehaven Waterfront Park with the Wreck of the Alkimos clearly visible just 500M off the landscaped beach. Bewdiful!
Job Profile:
1) thoroughly test the rescue boat before opening everyday - checking the cray & occy pots is a good way to do that.
2) Run tours out and around the wreck till the wind comes up. End of SUPing & Kayaking for the day. Knock off time.
And there I am - right on the beach with all my toys free to use the wind from start-up to end.
(in between running lessons of course)
How Does Your Job Shape Up? Ha ha - go on youre allowed to drool


Sounds pretty good puppet......but

I spend my day looking down, checking out the wind and water conditions along the entire coastline, looking for sharks, newly emerged sand bars and the wind lanes...., wondering where to go onmynext holiday,occasionally interrupting the serenity with catch phrases like "fox 3" and' I feel the need'' , " guns kill" then back to the aerial holiday spot survey.

;)

GreenPat
QLD, 4093 posts
15 Jan 2018 10:14PM
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oldbones said..

hilly said..


Plummet said..
Hilly, there's something wrong with the system if teachers have to spend really long hours preparing and making curriculum relevent.

Eppo, by the sound of it you need a change. Even if only to a different school.

No A
mount of kiting I'd worth festering to death for.




Curriculum has not changed much for a long time eg maths is maths. Kids have changed and are less accepting of lectures and need to be engaged. It is about real tasks and we prepare project learning engaging the community especially around STEM. My job is to make this work and support teachers with time and resources and it is very rewarding when it works. We get great integration with ECU and Curtin Uni in particular but it is hard work. With AI coming you do not want to be in a manual job. Yes preparing all this is hard work but no different than working in the "real world".



Hilly! Mate! I didn't understand much of that! And what I did understand I thought was BS. Too fluffy buddy.


1. "maths is maths." Yes, but that's an extreme example. It's almost the only thing that doesn't change.


2. "STEM". Extremely important. Whatever can be done to promote it should be done.

3. "With AI coming you do not want to be in a manual job." Absolutely.

Overall, generally agree and not too fluffy or BS. Technically disagree with the first sentence, I think this...

Instead of teaching students to answer questions, we should teach them to ask them. Instead of preparing them for college, we should prepare them for life.

...from the summary of this article: singularityhub.com/2017/07/04/7-critical-skills-for-the-jobs-of-the-future/

GreenPat
QLD, 4093 posts
15 Jan 2018 10:19PM
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Probably a more relevant quote from the article:

We consistently spoon-feed students with information instead of empowering them to ask questions and seek answers. Inquisitiveness and thinking outside the box need to be treated with the same level of importance the school system gives to physics or math.



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