Benny Wilson has been giving parko a few lessons during these last few lay days at the fiji comp! he'll be hooked in no time! yew
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I'm sure most of these surfers would treat it as a novelty more than anything. Sorry to say, but if I could be flown around to empty perfect surf breaks whenever I wanted, I don't think I would be kiteboarding as much.
Select to expand quotezarb said..
I'm sure most of these surfers would treat it as a novelty more than anything. Sorry to say, but if I could be flown around to empty perfect surf breaks whenever I wanted, I don't think I would be kiteboarding as much.
Maybe he like it that much he missed his heat while kiting 
Select to expand quotesurfingboye said..
did danny wills stick with it after his lesson with benny wilson?
No.
Select to expand quotezarb said..
I'm sure most of these surfers would treat it as a novelty more than anything. Sorry to say, but if I could be flown around to empty perfect surf breaks whenever I wanted, I don't think I would be kiteboarding as much.
Lets hope so.
I personally feel that the last thing our sport needs is a bunch of tribalist morons cluttering up the beaches, calling each other onto waves and generally acting like they own the place. Mind you I would think like that because I dont own a kite surf company and have a buisness interest in flogging the sport to as many people as possible..........oops did I say Kite Surf? I meant to say Surf Kite.
Select to expand quotejunglist said..zarb said..
I'm sure most of these surfers would treat it as a novelty more than anything. Sorry to say, but if I could be flown around to empty perfect surf breaks whenever I wanted, I don't think I would be kiteboarding as much.
Lets hope so.
I personally feel that the last thing our sport needs is a bunch of tribalist morons cluttering up the beaches, calling each other onto waves and generally acting like they own the place. Mind you I would think like that because I dont own a kite surf company and have a buisness interest in flogging the sport to as many people as possible..........oops did I say Kite Surf? I meant to say Surf Kite.
Fear not the Wilson kitemare, junglist.
Ben's vision of converting every surfer on the planet to the kult of kiting,
will only ever be his personal pipedream.
That's because core surfers hate wind ...and fag gear.
Surfers even despise offshore wind if it's fresh enough.
They like calm conditions.
Glass.
Oil.
lol.
Select to expand quoteSpark said..
^^^^^ Sorry Slave... can you define this "fag gear"?
North, Core, etc...
Select to expand quotewaveslave said..junglist said..zarb said..
I'm sure most of these surfers would treat it as a novelty more than anything. Sorry to say, but if I could be flown around to empty perfect surf breaks whenever I wanted, I don't think I would be kiteboarding as much.
Lets hope so.
I personally feel that the last thing our sport needs is a bunch of tribalist morons cluttering up the beaches, calling each other onto waves and generally acting like they own the place. Mind you I would think like that because I dont own a kite surf company and have a buisness interest in flogging the sport to as many people as possible..........oops did I say Kite Surf? I meant to say Surf Kite.
Fear not the Wilson kitemare, junglist.
Ben's vision of converting every surfer on the planet to the kult of kiting,
will only ever be his personal pipedream.
That's because core surfers hate wind ...and fag gear.
Surfers even despise offshore wind if it's fresh enough.
They like calm conditions.
Glass.
Oil.
lol.
Beachbreaks could do with a little offshore
Select to expand quotesir ROWDY said..Spark said..
^^^^^ Sorry Slave... can you define this "fag gear"?
North, Core, etc...
You know,
Tona, Ozone, Chaps
Back to reality here jokers.
IMO any surfer who doesnt kite is just plain missing out.
My chat in the shop regularly ...............
"Imagine the perfect line up, on a perfect day, just you and your 2 best surfing buddies have it all to yourself for 3 Hrs. Heaven Yes?
How much time do you reckon you are actually on the face of the wave doing what its all about?"
Thoughtful answer usually around 10 to 15 mins.
Same day, same conditions with a kite = probably over an hr actually on the wave.
AND (a very big AND) for the rest of the time you are cruising in & out doing all the magic that kiting provides. Rather then paddling & sitting out the back hoping you have picked the right spot to wait :-(
AND (another big AND) - on the wave > small close out section = end of surfers wave = pull through with the kite & ride the rest of the wave.
AND (another big AND) - shyty mushy crap day = go home surfer = heaps of kiting fun to be had, bits of surfing but awesome fun playing.
AND (another big AND) - caught inside = bye bye surfer = big possibility the kite will save the day.
AND (another big AND) - tricky take off zone = missed waves for surfer = tow in advantage to kiter.
Purist surfer? - surf when it all comes together - kite otherwise.
Reckon Ive gots lots of back-up to my IMO in this case. I gave surfing away long long ago. Not because I didnt appreciate that unbeatable feeling of everything coming together just right but purely because the time, effort & expense of chasing that perfection just didnt pay off often enough.
Select to expand quotepuppetonastring said..
Back to reality here jokers.
IMO any surfer who doesnt kite is just plain missing out.
My chat in the shop regularly ...............
"Imagine the perfect line up, on a perfect day, just you and your 2 best surfing buddies have it all to yourself for 3 Hrs. Heaven Yes?
How much time do you reckon you are actually on the face of the wave doing what its all about?"
Thoughtful answer usually around 10 to 15 mins.
Same day, same conditions with a kite = probably over an hr actually on the wave.
AND (a very big AND) for the rest of the time you are cruising in & out doing all the magic that kiting provides. Rather then paddling & sitting out the back hoping you have picked the right spot to wait :-(
AND (another big AND) - on the wave > small close out section = end of surfers wave = pull through with the kite & ride the rest of the wave.
AND (another big AND) - shyty mushy crap day = go home surfer = heaps of kiting fun to be had, bits of surfing but awesome fun playing.
AND (another big AND) - caught inside = bye bye surfer = big possibility the kite will save the day.
AND (another big AND) - tricky take off zone = missed waves for surfer = tow in advantage to kiter.
Purist surfer? - surf when it all comes together - kite otherwise.
Reckon Ive gots lots of back-up to my IMO in this case. I gave surfing away long long ago. Not because I didnt appreciate that unbeatable feeling of everything coming together just right but purely because the time, effort & expense of chasing that perfection just didnt pay off often enough.
AND (another big AND) - why I dont want every surfer out there knowing the benefits we kite surfers have over them in certain conditions
I still do and enjoy both and often sit in a packed lineup surfing and think.. imagine if all these guys kited as well - FARK ME! 
But.. I'm not a retailer 
Well Puppet if you've got crap waves like in Perth I can see your point, but if you live where I live your argument is pretty flawed. Unless you totally suck at surfing, then your argument is stil kind of valid.
Select to expand quotedefault said..puppetonastring said..
Back to reality here jokers.
IMO any surfer who doesnt kite is just plain missing out.
My chat in the shop regularly ...............
"Imagine the perfect line up, on a perfect day, just you and your 2 best surfing buddies have it all to yourself for 3 Hrs. Heaven Yes?
How much time do you reckon you are actually on the face of the wave doing what its all about?"
Thoughtful answer usually around 10 to 15 mins.
Same day, same conditions with a kite = probably over an hr actually on the wave.
AND (a very big AND) for the rest of the time you are cruising in & out doing all the magic that kiting provides. Rather then paddling & sitting out the back hoping you have picked the right spot to wait :-(
AND (another big AND) - on the wave > small close out section = end of surfers wave = pull through with the kite & ride the rest of the wave.
AND (another big AND) - shyty mushy crap day = go home surfer = heaps of kiting fun to be had, bits of surfing but awesome fun playing.
AND (another big AND) - caught inside = bye bye surfer = big possibility the kite will save the day.
AND (another big AND) - tricky take off zone = missed waves for surfer = tow in advantage to kiter.
Purist surfer? - surf when it all comes together - kite otherwise.
Reckon Ive gots lots of back-up to my IMO in this case. I gave surfing away long long ago. Not because I didnt appreciate that unbeatable feeling of everything coming together just right but purely because the time, effort & expense of chasing that perfection just didnt pay off often enough.
AND (another big AND) - why I dont want every surfer out there knowing the benefits we kite surfers have over them in certain conditions
I still do and enjoy both and often sit in a packed lineup surfing and think.. imagine if all these guys kited as well - FARK ME!
But.. I'm not a retailer
Plus time is another thing, I surf mainly on the weekends and just dont have time to kite or windsurf.
Also I not that keen on onshore conditions even tho I do surf in them sometimes.
I dont think Im missing out tho??
Select to expand quotesir ROWDY said..
Well Puppet if you've got crap waves like in Perth I can see your point, but if you live where I live your argument is pretty flawed. Unless you totally suck at surfing, then your argument is stil kind of valid.
A mate from this forum moved over east a while ago and all we get from him is photos of smoking, glassy beach set-ups with no one out. Not even sure he uses his kites anymore.
It's pretty true. I've been home about 2 months now and I've had one crappy kite session... But I could have found decent to excellent waves almost everyday. Also if you skate and have a good skatepark it's a similar thing. You don't have to spend much money on it and it's pretty much guaranteed you are going to be able to have an ok session.
In the end though that's why we all kite, it's the constant struggle to find conditions and not knowing when or where you might end up having a really good day!
Select to expand quotesir ROWDY said..
It's pretty true. I've been home about 2 months now and I've had one crappy kite session... But I could have found decent to excellent waves almost everyday. Also if you skate and have a good skatepark it's a similar thing. You don't have to spend much money on it and it's pretty much guaranteed you are going to be able to have an ok session.
In the end though that's why we all kite, it's the constant struggle to find conditions and not knowing when or where you might end up having a really good day!
What does a good session on a kite involve? Ive watched kites alot, some surf and some just go in and out.
A great surf session for me is 5-10 waves of good quatity and length (dont get much length of ride locally) and Im pretty happy 
Well you aren't going to have a good session often are you! haha.
For me anything could be a good session. Riding a wakeboard and hitting kickers, mucking around on a wakeskate, riding waves or just going out there every now and again and doing a few big jumps... The key is to diversify, or you are going to get sick of kiting pretty quickly. Or if you're not keen on diversifying you at the very least need to have other sports you can go and do when it's not "on" at the beach.
Select to expand quotesir ROWDY said..
Well you aren't going to have a good session often are you! haha.
For me anything could be a good session. Riding a wakeboard and hitting kickers, mucking around on a wakeskate, riding waves or just going out there every now and again and doing a few big jumps... The key is to diversify, or you are going to get sick of kiting pretty quickly. Or if you're not keen on diversifying you at the very least need to have other sports you can go and do when it's not "on" at the beach.
I dont surf local too much, normally travel north or south to get good waves. I score most of the time 
Select to expand quotepuppetonastring said..
Back to reality here jokers.
IMO any surfer who doesnt kite is just plain missing out.
My chat in the shop regularly ...............
"Imagine the perfect line up, on a perfect day, just you and your 2 best surfing buddies have it all to yourself for 3 Hrs. Heaven Yes?
How much time do you reckon you are actually on the face of the wave doing what its all about?"
Thoughtful answer usually around 10 to 15 mins.
Same day, same conditions with a kite = probably over an hr actually on the wave.
AND (a very big AND) for the rest of the time you are cruising in & out doing all the magic that kiting provides. Rather then paddling & sitting out the back hoping you have picked the right spot to wait :-(
AND (another big AND) - on the wave > small close out section = end of surfers wave = pull through with the kite & ride the rest of the wave.
AND (another big AND) - shyty mushy crap day = go home surfer = heaps of kiting fun to be had, bits of surfing but awesome fun playing.
AND (another big AND) - caught inside = bye bye surfer = big possibility the kite will save the day.
AND (another big AND) - tricky take off zone = missed waves for surfer = tow in advantage to kiter.
Purist surfer? - surf when it all comes together - kite otherwise.
Reckon Ive gots lots of back-up to my IMO in this case. I gave surfing away long long ago. Not because I didnt appreciate that unbeatable feeling of everything coming together just right but purely because the time, effort & expense of chasing that perfection just didnt pay off often enough.
You are comparing apples and oranges.
I've been surfing for about 40 years now and am still stoked on it. Windsurfed for 15-16 years and got sick of it. Been kiting now for around 10 years now and am slowly going less and less. I would rather go surfing any day over kiting, it's a totally different mindset and feeling that you will not ever get from kiting. A REAL connection with the ocean and waves.
As they say "only a surfer knows..."
Thanks BENE313 It's true I haven't had the kite gear out for a long time now. There is just too much surf here, and the wind usually arrives with dark stormy conditions, not like those great sunny hot sessions we constantly got in Perth. Don't get me wrong we still get good conditions here but I'm usually pretty surf stoked to bother getting out the kite gear.
Just continuing the nice waves from TOAD...
I need winddddd. Been a few weeks.
Come on weekend.
Select to expand quoteairhead said..puppetonastring said..
Back to reality here jokers.
IMO any surfer who doesnt kite is just plain missing out.
My chat in the shop regularly ...............
"Imagine the perfect line up, on a perfect day, just you and your 2 best surfing buddies have it all to yourself for 3 Hrs. Heaven Yes?
How much time do you reckon you are actually on the face of the wave doing what its all about?"
Thoughtful answer usually around 10 to 15 mins.
Same day, same conditions with a kite = probably over an hr actually on the wave.
AND (a very big AND) for the rest of the time you are cruising in & out doing all the magic that kiting provides. Rather then paddling & sitting out the back hoping you have picked the right spot to wait :-(
AND (another big AND) - on the wave > small close out section = end of surfers wave = pull through with the kite & ride the rest of the wave.
AND (another big AND) - shyty mushy crap day = go home surfer = heaps of kiting fun to be had, bits of surfing but awesome fun playing.
AND (another big AND) - caught inside = bye bye surfer = big possibility the kite will save the day.
AND (another big AND) - tricky take off zone = missed waves for surfer = tow in advantage to kiter.
Purist surfer? - surf when it all comes together - kite otherwise.
Reckon Ive gots lots of back-up to my IMO in this case. I gave surfing away long long ago. Not because I didnt appreciate that unbeatable feeling of everything coming together just right but purely because the time, effort & expense of chasing that perfection just didnt pay off often enough.
You are comparing apples and oranges.
I've been surfing for about 40 years now and am still stoked on it. Windsurfed for 15-16 years and got sick of it. Been kiting now for around 10 years now and am slowly going less and less. I would rather go surfing any day over kiting, it's a totally different mindset and feeling that you will not ever get from kiting. A REAL connection with the ocean and waves.
As they say "only a surfer knows..."
Funny been surfing since I was 7, been kiting 13th season and I'd still rather kite and haven't lost any enthusiasm at all! Just love it and everything it provides. Whether its hitting waves, flat water, whatever wind, give me a good kite anyday. But that may be because most places now in WA unless you go real remote are crowded. I can find uncrowded kiting easier. Even just a mellow cruise to me is the best thing I can think of doing. Everyone is different and I respect that.
as long as were enjoying the ocean im all for each discipline, to me its in your personal make up, kiting for me is full on from the moment i start , always going as hard as the wind will allow, the waves have added another dimention to the fun , as a surfer loves to be on a perfect wave i prefer to be going flat out at it, makes the best ramp going, i know i carnt sit around in the line up waiting for or to be called onto a wave its just not in my make up
Doctor, given where the surfers are placed, I reckon that is not where waves typically break. Nice wave photo.
