Can anyone help me?
I have recently just purchased a 9m naish helix kite and I can't get lessons for kiteboarding,but I have been flying a 1.3 symphony hq kite for 1 year then I bought a 6m pansh ace, I have been flying that for over 2 years now I believe and I am very use to it and how it acts. Also the power that comes from it. I fly it on a sandbar, and I actually teach people how to fly it but I tell them the safety of it first, so I was wondering what would I need to know about kiteboarding since I can't get lessons, I was thinking about body dragging and learning to go up wind and retrieve the board. Then start in light winds for kite surfing, then progress into heavier winds. I would really like to have help and know what I need to know, because i know this can be very dangerous and I'm always cautious with my 6m kite.
Thank u for your help
Why can't you get lessons? Is there no school in the area or is it a cost thing? My advice would be travel to somewhere to get lessons, if its a cost thing then save hard and get a lesson, if you pick your school/instructor right it will be the best money you ever spend in a long future of throwing money at this addictive sport.
Thanks dan111984
but would there really be anything I really would need to know for this sport, because all I know how to do is power kite, I seen the accidents that can happen, I just want to make sure when I go out there I will know what I'm doing, well somewhat...
Tgcp
I am in a state where I am no where near close to an instructor I am in North Dakota and I'm the only one around here that has a kite, well some people r starting to fly them since I have been flying my power kites. So that's why I need to know the details about it, but I would really like to see an instructor but I cant:(
Hey mate, My first kite was the Pansh ace kite too.
The major things you need to learn are to "let go of the bar" in an emergency, body dragging - primarily so you can retrieve your board if you lose it, How to use the critically important safety system, how to set up your kite and how to "self Rescue" when something goes wrong.
You really do need lessons just to go through these important steps. You like me flew power kites for a year or more before kite surfing, you will be awesome but you won't know how to be safe. If you hurt yourself you will probably end up in a hospital or worse.
If you go ahead against advice that you will surely receive in this post and cannot get lessons make sure you go to a very big shallow big open space to learn on the water.Never go out in Off shore wind. Never go out alone. Be aware of your surroundings- Power lines, Rocks, people, cars. Ask yourself when about to go in the water: Where will the wind blow me if I lose control? The biggest factor in injuries is that people do not "let go" of the bar in anemergency and sometimes are too overwhelmed to pull the safety, If you hold the bar in, you will smash hard. Let the bar go and you are less likely to hurt yourself and break the kite.
Never ever fly your kite on land. Launch your big kite near the water edge. Do not launch a Kitesurf kite like you do you Pansh kite. You need some one to help you, Look up youtube on how to launch.
Practice letting the kite pull you through the water. Learn what "upwind "" means and start body dragging up wind. Only then should you think about board riding.
Always wear a helmet, especially in the first year. I would reccomend a life vest and a Line knife.
The more i write the more i write the more i realise that you absolutely need lessons. I got lessons and i was already flying my pansh kite with a mountianboard along beaches. There's a lot more at risk in the water and the kites are very different...
I am a former instructor. you can pm me if you want more advice.
Thank you for your advice
I really want to learn this sport. It's just to bad I'm the only one around here that actually flies these kind of kites. I really want to kitesurf, but when I go out on the water I want to be safe and be aware of what I'm doing, I have been roaming youtube for videos on how to set the kite up and lauch/ride on the water.
I would like more advice about this please.
Have you tried this?
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/search.asp?category=Kitesurfing&forum=General
No I haven't yet thanks, I was seeing if I could get advice first then going the second route.
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Have you tried this?
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/search.asp?category=Kitesurfing&forum=General
Have you ever tried being remotely helpful?
Mate, unfortunately LEI kites and setups are very different to kites that you fly at the moment so lessons would be a great idea, just wait until you go on a holiday somewhere with wind and do some 
, you will pick it up very quickly due to your knowledge of the wind window and kite control etc so it won't cost you too much.
Goodluck!
Haydn24
Besides all the safety and getting to know your kite is it pretty easy if u know and are used to power kiting? Do you think if I were to go out and body drag and all that stuff, after I get used to that do you think I would be able to kitesurf?!
Thanks for your help I appreciate it.
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Haydn24
Besides all the safety and getting to know your kite is it pretty easy if u know and are used to power kiting? Do you think if I were to go out and body drag and all that stuff, after I get used to that do you think I would be able to kitesurf?!
Thanks for your help I appreciate it.
Yeah it's a progression, you use the same kite skills in body dragging as you do while riding (holding the kite in the window). Getting up and going on a board however takes practice! Some people get it in an hour, others it takes days to get up and riding. Then to the point of going up wind takes a while too.
Select to expand quoteHaydn24 said..Gilly3 said...
Have you tried this?
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/search.asp?category=Kitesurfing&forum=General
Have you ever tried being remotely helpful?
Mate, unfortunately LEI kites and setups are very different to kites that you fly at the moment so lessons would be a great idea, just wait until you go on a holiday somewhere with wind and do some , you will pick it up very quickly due to your knowledge of the wind window and kite control etc so it won't cost you too much.
Goodluck!
Ohh, whoops......I'm really sorry,
but I thought posting a quicklink to a wealth of information for 1Newbee was being helpful. I would have thought that the reason Seabreeze keeps all these threads in the archives is so people can easily access specific information they require by doing a search through the topics they are enquiring about. I could be wrong but, thanks for the heads up Haydn24. I promise I will try harder next time....
Merry Christmas & Happy New Year 
Watch this
www.progression.me/kiteboarding-products/dvds/progression-kiteboarding-beginner-dvd-2nd-edition/
Don't spend too much more on that kite though, if you can't fix it yourself, its probably not worth fixing.
Try snowkiting dude I kno North Dakota would have some snow in the fields , u can also try exploresports.ca they are in Regina Saskatchewan they mite be a closer school and in the summer lakes are nice there. Or move out of the Dakotas/prairies lol
Try these guys they might be able to put you in touch with local kiters.
This windsurfer was trying to start in the same area and may have some info on where to find kiters, as they would probably use the same spots.
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/General/Tips-for-a-beginning-windsurfer/
www.lakawa.com/
Thanks for all the info
So probably the best way to go since I can't get lessons is to snow kite first? Would I use the 9meter surfing kite or would I use the 6m power kite?! Another question now if I was to go out on the water what if it was really light wind where I wouldn't get flung into the air really at all like around 8-10 mph? Or wouldn't that be windy enough, but if it is in light wind there wouldn't be a lot of risks right?
dude snowkiting is the easy way to get into kitesurfing. You basicly learn all the flying and board aspect of things on the snow/land which cancells out bobing around like a duck. You would be crazy not to go that route. Im from australia but living in saskatchewan untill june 2014 then moving back but the snowkiting here is amazing, could imagine use have same amount of snow in north dakota? where abouts are u
your 9m naish depending on your weight mite get you going from 30-50 kilometers hr. on snow
I'm about 134lbs and we do get a lot of snow around here in the winter. Since the naish kite is for kitesurfing would I still be able to use it on the snow because it has the aired up struts?
You can use inflatable leading edge kites to snow kite. I would suggest that whatever kite you use on the snow handles gusts reasonably well. Winter winds are rarely smooth, and when you are experienced you have the ability to handle those gusts. As someone starting out you don't want to get too overpowered. Right now you are in the season to learn snowkiting, but make sure you wear a helmet. Land is harder than water at any level of impact. You won't have much success in soft snow until you really get the hang of it. I would think that it would be wise to look and see if there are any snow kiters in your region and hook up with them. You need some guidance that can help avoid some of the pitfalls that do happen when you are learning.
Whatever route you take, take it easy and don't try to be a hero. Learn to use your release systems so they are automatic. Your life will always be worth more than a mere kite.
yes everyone in saskatchewan including myself uses same kites on snow as water. wen its 30 plus pump up your 9m and go fly it in the fields, fly it thru the power zone and pull in on the bar and get the kite to stand u up as u would to get up on your board or ski;s. once ur confident, rigging, using safetys and self landing etc add the board to it. Also if u wanted to purchase newer gear mackiteboarding in michigan or realwatersports out of hatteras has awesome deals online atm. I would reccomend Slingshot RPM or Ozone Catalyst if u were looking at buying some newer gear. Great all round kites.
Just get out there bud.... Waist deep water with some friends around will cushion the blows and keep you out of trouble...
Make sure you know how to use your QR and don't go out in nuking winds just yet...
You already appear to have more experience than most b4 they have a crack at the big kites so I reckon you'll be fine....
BennyB12
Thanks that makes me feel more comfortable I was getting nervous from what everyone said.
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BennyB12
Thanks that makes me feel more comfortable I was getting nervous from what everyone said.
Lesson 1: Take everything said in Seabreeze with a grain of salt.
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BennyB12
Thanks that makes me feel more comfortable I was getting nervous from what everyone said.
Lesson 1: Take everything said in Seabreeze with a grain of salt.
I second that.
Its good to ask questions, but getting lessons should be the best way to go.
Start off in light winds ( about 15mph ) when you have a safe place and steady winds, and preferably waist deep water.
sound to me like you're good to go... you have way more experience than i did when i taught myself.
get in the water, slowly dip your kite in and out of the power zone to get comfortable with it, then body drag and then body drag upwind. by then you'll be ready for the board
if that sounds too freaky then you're going to need lessons
