Jesus you mob.... Listen to yourselves....
It seems the better the conditions you have In your location inversely effects the level of " am I progressing ? "
We progress every day we wake up. 
Approaching 55 ( waypast 30 something ! ) after 25 years windsurfing and 6 kiting. Windsurfing in south SA - plenty of wind and good waves
The kiting , living in the one of the most wind challenged places in Oz.
Wet season awesome fun by the way. 
. There is nothing like the unpredictable nature of a wet season monsoon , big tides, crocs and stingers.
Nature at its best.
Plus turtles , dugongs , flying fish ....other local antics.
Always wave oriented and not interested in tricks(What the f... Is a dark side Eppo? ) , just the watching the movement of the ocean and the landscape as it changes while I kite is progress
If I get a session , I am stoked
If not , I am with my mates having a yack
Sometimes we just look at the sea and chat ...as I did this arvo...and yesterday ...only water to drink ... came home stoked. Another good session.
I am a lucky dude. 
Huh....must be progress
You kooks, all holding hands as you sink into dj's locker.
Oath your only issue is not having others around you at your skill level. Hit up those little mobeing kids from padi, they must have figured out hes not the bees knees by now and ready to branch out and approach other riders. You would be doing them as much a favour as they would be doing you.
Slamming the back of your dome into the water as the back rail of your board catches and then seeing stars for the next 5 minutes and wondering if your to old for this **** is what its all about.
One major aspect of this all too familular event is to learn to pop better. Like waaaaay better. You need to get some air raileys at blibli then take that load and release technic to your kiting and you will have improved a bill fold :-)
Slayashirtandallfromthegc
I reckon you are just missing the serious wind of WA Underoath.
I don't do a lot of kiting these days unless there is some good waves on offer but whilst I am downwind SUPing I see kiters going huge all the time 
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I'd say the body is very much still willing. I haven't been injured apart from bone brakes and bruising.
Out of interest Russ - how old are you?
My old man gave up squash at around ~35, too many injuries. I'm 32.....
44 mate. Still in good shape too I'd say (I can still see my feet when looking down). The injury was a bit of a shock but I guess that can happen at any age and I was just luckyy so far. The healing process just seemed longer. 32, ah man hit it hard, mid life crisis does not start until 40
Ahhhhhh lads !!!!!
Why don't we have a whip around and get Jason back to wa for some stomper sessions. he sounds like he is gonna try neck himself again with his kite lines :-). I remember early last season having the same thought after getting the pebbles to do a kite loop on my new Vegas12m in 10/14 knots going home thinking yeah nailed that, there's not much to them I'm up there with Hadlow and the boys now..... But as eppo said are all your tricks fluent / fluid? Can u pull them off at the click of a finger and look as cool as Peter Andre in his mysterious girl video, That video all thriller no filler u made was epic sort ure life out and make some more IT INSPIRED ME to nail the dark slide ive landed 3 small ones so far!!!. A year an a half on now I'm confident pulling fish poles on a double elevator boost in 35knonts when no one else is out, thus realising no matter how good I think I am there is way more room for improvement. I've only of late started unhookin landed my first railey the other week and thought I was awesome probably looked crap but I'll have it by the end of this season it's all in the game plan. For the sake of us all don't hang up the kites yet.... Try teach someone as well to share the Stoke a bit, and for god sake don't be getting so down man. There's no better sport then kiting the possibility are endless. Come back for a holiday this season to show off ure nailed handle passes we can see who's looks most elegant. 
ah yes, the intermediate plateau, I know it well! Got all the easy wins, now the next level would require real work, like higher level athletes have to do. Pushed the risk level as far as you dare, next level requires getting out of comfort zone, and risking real injury.
Yup, time to move on to another sport, once again.
I don't think I'll ever get tired of wave riding in decent surf. But it doesn't come often enough. For the flat lawn mow days, seems to be it's either a training session to work on something specific or a shorter session just to get some zipping around ... what used to be 3 hour marathons, now a 45 minute quick fix is enough, before it gets boring, and then back to life.
But the new toy is the foilboard...a new challenge, makes the flat days fun again. Lots to work on there.
Yeh man im stuck in a kite rut too. I progressed pretty quick to start with and new tricks are so hard to get now. Or ill land one then cant get it again. Did an s 3 last year and was stokef but just cant get it again and its deflated me hahaha. Had a baby last year so i cant spend as much time on the water but i really dont care. I just get pissed off when i kite because if anything im getting worse hahahaha.
Had a few days hitting a mates kicker rail last year. I recon thats where its at. I had so much fun on that thing. Gonna make one the same as his. It was so quick n easy to set up too.
Hey Mr oath, I dont know what sort of conditions you have over there in QL these days, but if its anything like Pinnas where you used to take off, its probably not good enough to realy practice freestyle, not that Im the expert, but when I was trying stuff it was impossible to get consistancy if you dont have flat water and non gusty conditions and im talking flat like the pond or woodies.
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Had a baby last year so i cant spend as much time on the water but i really dont care. I just get pissed off when i kite because if anything im getting worse hahahaha.
Yeah that happens when you have young children. All of a sudden you just cant spend the same time to your fun activities. Also those activities become less important.
I was racing dh mountain bikes at a national level. Then babies. I had to pull pin on the racing as I couldn't spend enough time hitting the big lines and I lost my crazy eyethometer. The skill dropped off.
The semi good news is. In the future when the kids grow abit older and you can steel a bit more time back you van re-build yourself back up. And you get the progression stoke again.
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Ride a Wakeskate.
I was going to suggest this, although I don't ride one myself. Underoath do you skate?
Someone will have to release a clip entitled Never Kitebored.
For any wheelyboarders, Never Skatebored. This is the best I've seen this year:
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Had a baby last year so i cant spend as much time on the water but i really dont care. I just get pissed off when i kite because if anything im getting worse hahahaha.
Yeah that happens when you have young children. All of a sudden you just cant spend the same time to your fun activities. Also those activities become less important.
I was racing dh mountain bikes at a national level. Then babies. I had to pull pin on the racing as I couldn't spend enough time hitting the big lines and I lost my crazy eyethometer. The skill dropped off.
The semi good news is. In the future when the kids grow abit older and you can steel a bit more time back you van re-build yourself back up. And you get the progression stoke again.
Yeh i know. I been loving going for a surf with my wife n bub on the beach surfing never gets stale i am an average surfer and will never be any good but i always enjoy good waves. wife n bub dont like sitting in gail force wind hahaha. I still do get the chance to kite or surf a fair bit but alot of the time i choose to play at the park or something instead.
When your kiting alot and really pushing yourself like dreaming about new tricks and not going home untill you break a bone or land the trick it is awesome but for me now my mindset is so different than it was even last season.
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Underoath what style do you actually ride with?
...I can nail the basics- unhooked darkslids to back rolls, S bends, unhooked front rolls, unhooked raileys/ railey down loops, f16's......
Sounds to me like you need to stop progressing and let the rest of us catch up.
Select to expand quotebene313 said..sir ROWDY said..
Ride a Wakeskate.
I was going to suggest this, although I don't ride one myself. Underoath do you skate?
Someone will have to release a clip entitled Never Kitebored.
For any wheelyboarders, Never Skatebored. This is the best I've seen this year:
Great vid and I agree, skaters are some of the most creative thinkers out there.
IMO this is a psychology issue. Most people who get stale in their sport need to go back to the child like mentality, or re-learn the joy of being the beginner, between the ages of 10 and 20 years old I spent hours in all conditions trying to nail various skate tricks with varying success. If I got bored I moved on, or tried a new variation of a trick I could do with a different slant. Mixing it up like skating a new spot, trying different equipment, and hanging out with new folk who inspired me.
Fast forward, I'm now the wrong side of 40 with family, full on job etc. limited on time like most, so now the stoke is just getting out there on anything, surf, kite, skate. Hell these days mainly I go so long between sessions that my progress is backwards, in everything! That's just my own busy life getting in the way!
Those that are good enough to be bored with their already impressive repertoire need to get creative. They are lucky to be that proficient, and don't concentrate on being robotic, think J.O.B doing step offs onto foamies at Pipe or riding an inflatable crocodile. Those guy's arent worried about nailing a technically perfect rotation for the judges, they're just having fun in between!
And if nailing it for the judges is your aim, give it a rest, get stoked on a new slant and come back to it with fresh eyes and a relaxed attitude, it'll come......
Think Rodney Mullen and his TED talk, prime example.....
www.ted.com/talks/rodney_mullen_pop_an_ollie_and_innovate#t-110422
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Underoath what style do you actually ride with?
...I can nail the basics- unhooked darkslids to back rolls, S bends, unhooked front rolls, unhooked raileys/ railey down loops, f16's......
Sounds to me like you need to stop progressing and let the rest of us catch up.
Bang on bro...lol.
So many interesting comments and all really valid.
Sugarcube! I do miss WA - However- I must admit, it''s flat water heaven here. Surf is also on to par with likes of Lanno/Wedge.
Check out the spot below. Mirror flat. There are another four kiting locations like this within 60kms, all work on different winds too!
Bene that vid was sick. I can skate, but have lost 90% of it from my youth. Now days its the dogs pulling me along on my cruiser.
I think what you said Grodad resonates, about needing to go "back to the child like mentality, or re-learn the joy of being the beginner". Ill be the first to admit, I'm probably taking my "downtime" a little to serious.
Overthinking and not chilling.
skateboarding for old guys? haha
At 40, I built 2 quarter pipes for my basement suite tenant's skater teen. Figured it would be great cross training for surfing. Relearning to drop in, did a top to bottom full body slam. Pain receptors flashing like 100 light bulbs going off at once. The sound of meat hitting concrete. I don't remember it hurting like that back when I was made of elastic bands, when i used to just bounce back up and keep going. That was the end of skateboarding.
Kiting is so much more forgiving. On a good day, I feel like I am back in the skatepark, just now with the help of the kite's power and the bar's balance beam, I can do all those tricks that gravity denied me. 
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skateboarding for old guys? haha
At 40, I built 2 quarter pipes for my basement suite tenant's skater teen. Figured it would be great cross training for surfing. Relearning to drop in, did a top to bottom full body slam. Pain receptors flashing like 100 light bulbs going off at once. The sound of meat hitting concrete. I don't remember it hurting like that back when I was made of elastic bands, when i used to just bounce back up and keep going. That was the end of skateboarding.
Kiting is so much more forgiving. On a good day, I feel like I am back in the skatepark, just now with the help of the kite's power and the bar's balance beam, I can do all those tricks that gravity denied me.
That's why you should try a wakeskate, water is usually softer than concrete .
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Check out the spot below. Mirror flat. There are another four kiting locations like this within 60kms, all work on different winds too!
Holy moly dude..........that spot is sick......and no one out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is it not crowded over there?????
u get those conds at the pond but with anotha zillion guyz................. plus pros, ho's and touros............all burning everyone.....
its difficult to progress when theres no gaps to try new stuff..............its like....,,..suddnly theres a gap!!!.......quickly throw down a trcik while you can!!!.....no time to think about it so u just throw down the ones u alredy know.....,..... 
I didn't kite the pond for the reasons you mentioned. If I ever did make the trip, it was mid week.
Crowds are way down here, but the winds lighter, so i'm not going to kid myself and say this place trumps the Pond.
I have never kited the spot above with more than 3 riders.
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skateboarding for old guys? haha
At 40, I built 2 quarter pipes for my basement suite tenant's skater teen. Figured it would be great cross training for surfing. Relearning to drop in, did a top to bottom full body slam. Pain receptors flashing like 100 light bulbs going off at once. The sound of meat hitting concrete. I don't remember it hurting like that back when I was made of elastic bands, when i used to just bounce back up and keep going. That was the end of skateboarding.
Kiting is so much more forgiving. On a good day, I feel like I am back in the skatepark, just now with the help of the kite's power and the bar's balance beam, I can do all those tricks that gravity denied me. 
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That's why you should try a wakeskate, water is usually softer than concrete .
Wakeskate looks difficult.
I've been hitting the skatepark for a while now since my kid is super interested. I pretty much had 10 years off. I'm trying some protection gear soon to help confidence on the ramps (never used to use any).
Quiet a few crew are getting into foiling. It's not because foiling is so amazing (which it is ). It's because it is endlessly rewarding and challenging. Even after almost of year of foiling I can do it ok, but I still feel like a beginner.
There's also the feeling that when you're not doing it you can't quite remember what it feels like, and you're never quite sure that you can actually do it. You start a session, pop up and glide away and suddenly it's, "I can do this!".
I'm not suggesting that you go foiling, but definitely get your head in the space of looking for ways to get better and to have more fun.
I don't think learning more and harder tricks is the way. That way is doomed to failure because progress can never be continuous or exponential. If it was then everybody would be doing triple back blind mobe dead man board offs.
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skateboarding for old guys? haha
At 40, I built 2 quarter pipes for my basement suite tenant's skater teen. Figured it would be great cross training for surfing. Relearning to drop in, did a top to bottom full body slam. Pain receptors flashing like 100 light bulbs going off at once. The sound of meat hitting concrete. I don't remember it hurting like that back when I was made of elastic bands, when i used to just bounce back up and keep going. That was the end of skateboarding.
Kiting is so much more forgiving. On a good day, I feel like I am back in the skatepark, just now with the help of the kite's power and the bar's balance beam, I can do all those tricks that gravity denied me. 
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That's why you should try a wakeskate, water is usually softer than concrete .
Wakeskate looks difficult.
I've been hitting the skatepark for a while now since my kid is super interested. I pretty much had 10 years off. I'm trying some protection gear soon to help confidence on the ramps (never used to use any).
Wakeskate is as hard as you want to make it, there's lots of easy things you can learn to keep you entertained.
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Check out the spot below. Mirror flat. There are another four kiting locations like this within 60kms, all work on different winds too!
Holy moly dude..........that spot is sick......and no one out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is it not crowded over there?????
u get those conds at the pond but with anotha zillion guyz................. plus pros, ho's and touros............all burning everyone.....
its difficult to progress when theres no gaps to try new stuff..............its like....,,..suddnly theres a gap!!!.......quickly throw down a trcik while you can!!!.....no time to think about it so u just throw down the ones u alredy know.....,.....
Spots like this all up the qld coast
I blew out my ACL medial meniscus and bone contusion in my right knee after accidentally completing a mega loop in Augusta. Should have known better. That slowed me down pretty quick. Have at least another 3 months before I can surf again let alone kite (currently 9 months post op). Hopefully flat water will still be an option. Was trying to progress with kite loops but stuffed my timing after watching a few vids and looped when at top of jump. Pendulum ed me down wind under my kite, no suspension, tried to land with board pointing down wind. Leg buckled and I was #%cked! Just lucky I had a mate there with a dinghy or I wouldhave been really ####ed trying to land with my knee swinging in every which direction underwater. Progress or regress. However I think wave Kiting is now my thing...
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Rads said...
Underoath said..
Check out the spot below. Mirror flat. There are another four kiting locations like this within 60kms, all work on different winds too!
Holy moly dude..........that spot is sick......and no one out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is it not crowded over there?????
u get those conds at the pond but with anotha zillion guyz................. plus pros, ho's and touros............all burning everyone.....
its difficult to progress when theres no gaps to try new stuff..............its like....,,..suddnly theres a gap!!!.......quickly throw down a trcik while you can!!!.....no time to think about it so u just throw down the ones u alredy know.....,.....
Spots like this all up the qld coast
bugger....,.. i mite move there.... any work?
why dont all the pros n touros n that go to qld........can u pls take some....we need a break
too much pimpin ova here i reckon by those creepy old phtogs......
I am in a very similar position. Actually progression is a bit backwards with me after several injuries. (Acl and broken ribs). I can do basic unhooked stuff like railey, sbend, f16 and railey into blind/pass. Somehow i am not able to cross the barrier to a full airpass or slim. 36 now, the body can do it but the barrier is in my head.
To not get bored I mix it up with surfboard and some strapless airs but does not give me the same thrill as freestyle.
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Rads said...
Underoath said..
Check out the spot below. Mirror flat. There are another four kiting locations like this within 60kms, all work on different winds too!
Holy moly dude..........that spot is sick......and no one out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is it not crowded over there?????
u get those conds at the pond but with anotha zillion guyz................. plus pros, ho's and touros............all burning everyone.....
its difficult to progress when theres no gaps to try new stuff..............its like....,,..suddnly theres a gap!!!.......quickly throw down a trcik while you can!!!.....no time to think about it so u just throw down the ones u alredy know.....,.....
Spots like this all up the qld coast
bugger....,.. i mite move there.... any work?
why dont all the pros n touros n that go to qld........can u pls take some....we need a break
too much pimpin ova here i reckon by those creepy old phtogs......
Check it. It's the pond on steroids. That bar stretches for another 100m.
