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...fined for 'breathtaking' kite surfing thefts

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Created by Robbo2099 > 9 months ago, 17 Jun 2014
Chris6791
WA, 3271 posts
19 Jun 2014 2:03PM
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One of the positives out of the courts not sending too many to prison is that they get totally blind-sided when it finally catches up with them. There's nothing quite like the look on someone's face the first time they get sentenced to prison.

cracknback
NSW, 56 posts
19 Jun 2014 6:28PM
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This kind of news sickens me - 2 weeks ago some similar low life broke into my garage and stole about $5000 worth of motorbike gear from me - 1 piece leathers, helmets, gloves, jackets, safety gear etc.

To get to the motorbike gear, to my amazement they had to lift my kites and boards out of the way - not one of them got taken, just the bike gear, so I guess I have something to be "thankful" for.

I do not hold any hope of my gear being returned or the cops finding who did it, but I would have hoped that if they were caught, they would be fined more than $3200 bucks and locked up, but this news coupled with the recent theft has just dropped my faith in society even further!

eppo
WA, 9706 posts
19 Jun 2014 5:05PM
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Yep you got me darth! Good one. Nice reply to VB man.

Im not sure any one has an answer to these issues, apart from draconian punishment.

It's all I can think of anyway.

VB MAN
1156 posts
19 Jun 2014 5:44PM
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I would love to respond to that, but I am aware that kiddies read these forums.

Till next time, Lord Vadar .

Robbo2099
WA, 751 posts
19 Jun 2014 9:08PM
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The names and addresses are a matter of public record. Published in the Geraldton Guardian from the official court records. Anyone can get the printed edition of that day's paper and look it up.

hargs
QLD, 634 posts
19 Jun 2014 11:46PM
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WeirdEd said...
hargs said...


Oh yeah I have a big dog and he hates socialised Euro's too



That's good to know. I just hope your big dog does not bite you in the a$$ after it finds out that you have plenty of Euros in your family tree.

Regarding the piss weak judicial system: There are plenty of "strong" systems all over the world. Some are based on the Sharia, some on dictatorships, etc. and I don't think they are doing a better job.

The "weakness" of civilized systems is that they sometimes let people go with a slap on the wrist if they are caught the first time. Repeat offenders typically don't get a soft treatment. If you put a first time offender who has committed a relatively minor offence (like theft) into jail and he loses his job and gets a criminal record guess what will happen. He will meet people he should not hang out with, never get a job again and steal for a living because he has no other option.

If he learns from this and gets a regular income and family (something to lose) he will most likely not steal again.

I really understand that people are upset - Btw I hope the guy who stole my bike last year has a bad accident with it - but I don't think a lynch mob is the correct approach.


I'm sorry but;

a. what makes you think I have euro trash genes in my family tree.

b. if the judicial system hardened up a bit thieving pricks would be locked up forever. Why is (stealing) a minor offence? It's a simple concept - if it's not yours leave it alone. I'm sick and tired of people trying to justify people who feel it's ok to do the wrong thing without any consequences.

c. my dog really hates do gooder euro's who want to get in touch with their oh but - "like i know it's not your fault that you're a thieving **** low life criminal, come and live with me cause your rehabilitated now aren't you" attitude give me a break.

d. woof



cauncy
WA, 8407 posts
19 Jun 2014 10:20PM
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Chris6791 said...
cauncy said...
And you wonder why stuff gets robbed , will someone explain why they took these thieving scums photos and names from public view, your as pathetic as they are,


It's a fine line between venting anger/frustration and dishing out retribution. This thread is skating towards the latter which is why someone probably reported it to Laurie (not me).

Not wanting to be the nanna here but we are a civilised society, we've chosen to leave it up to the courts, if the courts have gone soft then bitch about that, there's no provision in the penalty for us to go and break fingers to top up the penalty afterwards. And if payback is what some one here have in mind then openly discussing it beforehand seriously diminishes the chances of getting one of those soft penalties if you get charged with assault.


I think you look at too many graphs and pye charts at work Chris, one of these little pricks about a year back deliberately ran over a local snapping his leg, great to see the civilised methods you speak of working,

WeirdEd
VIC, 268 posts
20 Jun 2014 11:13AM
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hargs said...


I'm sorry but;

a. what makes you think I have euro trash genes in my family tree.

b. if the judicial system hardened up a bit thieving pricks would be locked up forever. Why is (stealing) a minor offence? It's a simple concept - if it's not yours leave it alone. I'm sick and tired of people trying to justify people who feel it's ok to do the wrong thing without any consequences.

c. my dog really hates do gooder euro's who want to get in touch with their oh but - "like i know it's not your fault that you're a thieving **** low life criminal, come and live with me cause your rehabilitated now aren't you" attitude give me a break.

d. woof






A. Just an educated guess. In my experience 9/10 times comments like "I hate Euros because (enter ludicrous reasoning here)" are uttered by Caucasian Australians which strangely enough are of European descent. I sincerely apologize if you are Aboriginal and I would probably understand why you feel that way.

B. If the judicial system would lock up thieves forever the cost would go through the roof and your taxes would rise massively. Do you really want to pay more of your hard earned cash to lock these people up? That is the reason why only people get locked up who are a danger to society or are just not getting the message and commit offences over and over again.

C. Your dog should read more history books about European countries and about how devastating the "strong" political systems have been in the past. I suggest your dog reads about the German presidential election 1933 where a strong system has been elected by people who wanted strong laws. By the time they noticed what they had unleashed it was already too late and I assume you know how the story ends. That's mainly why we now have human but piss weak judicial systems...because we are not animals and we can learn from past mistakes.

D. Now I understand...never mind.

Juddy
WA, 1103 posts
20 Jun 2014 11:04AM
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If there's ever a good side to shizen behaviour like this, I suppose everyone who heads up to Dongara/Denison in the future will be that little bit more security conscious about leaving gear lying around over night.

The other thing, if anyone's gear gets nicked again, the old bill will have at least a couple of names with form for nicking kite gear - it might just be that these fwits learn from the outcome.....

Macca05
WA, 12 posts
20 Jun 2014 11:50AM
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Has anyone considered National Service for a minimum of 1 year. For anyone that has done military service the first three months would definitely sort out there discipline issues.

If they didn't realise by then they would be introduced to the Military justice system where the idea of learning more criminal behaviour would virtually be impossible.
After reading the article it did mention drug paraphernalia which in my mind he's a drug addict supporting a habit which needs treatment. No better place to clean them up.
Putting it out there

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
20 Jun 2014 3:37PM
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Should be mandatory for all. Not only is it educational, it's bloody great fun!

GalahOnTheBay
NSW, 4188 posts
20 Jun 2014 5:11PM
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cauncy said...
And you wonder why stuff gets robbed , will someone explain why they took these thieving scums photos and names from public view, your as pathetic as they are,



It's a tough one.

On the one hand, I would like lowlife like these put into a chaff bag and thrown into the sea.

On the other hand, having their names in this thread along side comments threatening abuse exposes not only the individual members but also Laurie to some pretty nasty legal stuff.

That's why their names and photos were removed.

Remember we do live in 2014, so Google is your friend...



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