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Vaccine who has it who hasn't who won't?

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Created by Razzonater > 9 months ago, 25 Jun 2021
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Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
28 Aug 2021 8:08PM
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lotofwind said..




Posted by the wing nut who reduces any disagreement with the government propaganda and legacy media narrative to "conspiracy theory", and continues to promote the incompetent government as the source of the best solution.

I agree with the historian -- it's not a conspiracy theory, you're just not nearly competent enough either.

Although he is being selective and ignoring all the "conspiracy theories" that were actually government doing dastardly deeds.

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
28 Aug 2021 8:16PM
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japie said..


I do find it funny that the crew trying to make vaping legal have just linked this exact video under the title,
"Doctor proves vaping is healthy, as long as you wear a mask"

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
28 Aug 2021 8:17PM
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psychojoe said..
And if we want a climate scientist, I choose Dr Bhatt from Imperial college, his modelling had over 100million people dying from Covid in 2020. That happened didn't it.


Every time there's an outbreak, they turn to modelers who predict doom without end and a mountain of bodies. It's never happened, and they've not been held to account. I guess that's how you justify pointless lockdowns and other measures that contravene "the science"... "Look, the modelers said 80,000 dead and we ended up with 30... therefore lockdowns work."

kiterboy
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28 Aug 2021 6:20PM
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D3 said...
One previous trial of a vaccine using rMVA in ferrets suggested that more studies should be done.



And guess what?
You're part of the further studies.

Now be a good trial participant and line up for your booster(s).

japie
NSW, 7145 posts
28 Aug 2021 9:10PM
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lotofwind said..
Sorry, you can not enter the circus without a covid passport, please stay behind the white line with the couple of other sick looking
And Im sure you will stand there till your over lords on rumble and youtube tell you what to do next. lol


Lol

FlySurfer
NSW, 4460 posts
29 Aug 2021 11:52AM
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www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-safety-report-26-08-2021
52,849 (32,818 Vaxzevria/19,706 Comirnaty) vaccine injuries inc. deaths in Oz.

Mr Milk
NSW, 3116 posts
29 Aug 2021 12:16PM
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Most commonly reported vaccine side effects
The most common adverse effects reported to the TGA following immunisation are predictable and have been observed with many vaccines. They include headache, muscle pain, fever, chills and injection site reactions for both vaccines.

In other words, trivial.

kiterboy
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29 Aug 2021 10:43AM
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Mr Milk said..
Most commonly reported vaccine SHORT TERM side effects
The most common adverse effects reported to the TGA following immunisation are predictable and have been observed with many vaccines. They include headache, muscle pain, fever, chills and injection site reactions for both vaccines.

In other words, trivial, FOR PROVEN, ESTABLISHED LONG TERM STUDIED VACCINES, BUT THIS DOES NOT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE POSSIBLE LONG TERM EFFECTS THAT COULD OCCUR WITH THESE NOVEL TREATMENTS THAT HAVE ONLY JUST BEEN MADE FOR SARS-Cov-2 AND HAVE NO LONG TERM DATA ON WHAT THOSE EFFECTS COULD BE, IF ANY.
PREVIOUS STUDIES INTO SIMILAR NOVEL TREATMENTS HAVE SHOWN A RANGE OF POSSIBLE NEGATIVE SIDE EFFECTS THAT COULD OCCUR, RANGING FROM MILD TO DEVASTATING.



FTFY.

Be a good trial participant and line up for your booster(s) to help create the long term data that doesn't exist yet.

rainbowfish
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29 Aug 2021 10:43AM
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This is certainly an interesting read. Fully vaccinated with Pfizer. Tiny bit of a sore arm but no worse than any other injection. I have noticed my sights not as good as it was, and hair a bit thinner but that's just the tiny bit of Bill Gates now in my system. Amusing to see the anti vaxxers trying to convince others. All I can say is save your breath, or should that be "breff" for arguing with the security at the pub, footy, airport, restaurant, cafes, etc as the vaccinated stroll on past you, thankful for that little extra amusement you've added to their day. That's if covid hasn't taken 50% of your capacity to breathe (breave). Next!!!

kiterboy
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29 Aug 2021 10:59AM
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www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/health/study-suggests-prior-covid19-infection-more-effective-against-delta-than-pfizer-vaccine/news-story/7a62f53b75eb5d0004ce5cf3181b65b4

The study found those who have received two shots of the Pfizer vaccine were 13 times more likely to have a breakthrough infection of the Delta variant than those who had been previously infected with Covid-19 between January and February 2021.

Vaccinated individuals were also found to be at a greater risk of Covid-19 related hospitalisations compared to those who were previously infected.

Oh dear...best of luck pro-experimenters!

airsail
QLD, 1565 posts
29 Aug 2021 1:12PM
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kiterboy said..
www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/health/study-suggests-prior-covid19-infection-more-effective-against-delta-than-pfizer-vaccine/news-story/7a62f53b75eb5d0004ce5cf3181b65b4

The study found those who have received two shots of the Pfizer vaccine were 13 times more likely to have a breakthrough infection of the Delta variant than those who had been previously infected with Covid-19 between January and February 2021.

Vaccinated individuals were also found to be at a greater risk of Covid-19 related hospitalisations compared to those who were previously infected.

Oh dear...best of luck pro-experimenters!



As long as your still alive, not suffering long Covid or have serious long term lung injuries from contracting Covid and being hospitalised. Vaccination aims to prevent hospitalisation and long term injury from said hospitalisation, it's playing Russian Roulette hoping not to get too sick.

I guess if your feeling lucky, knowing that there may not be room in ICU if you do need it, go ahead, your choice.

126 people in NSW ICU, 113 unvaxed, 12 one dose of vaccine.

kiterboy
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29 Aug 2021 11:30AM
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airsail said..
I guess if your feeling lucky...


Your what?

Did you even go to school?

kiterboy
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29 Aug 2021 11:32AM
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kiterboy said..
www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/health/study-suggests-prior-covid19-infection-more-effective-against-delta-than-pfizer-vaccine/news-story/7a62f53b75eb5d0004ce5cf3181b65b4

The study found those who have received two shots of the Pfizer vaccine were 13 times more likely to have a breakthrough infection of the Delta variant than those who had been previously infected with Covid-19 between January and February 2021.

Vaccinated individuals were also found to be at a greater risk of Covid-19 related hospitalisations compared to those who were previously infected.

Oh dear...best of luck pro-experimenters!




As long as your still alive, not suffering long Covid or have serious long term lung injuries from contracting Covid and being hospitalised. Vaccination aims to prevent hospitalisation and long term injury from said hospitalisation, it's playing Russian Roulette hoping not to get too sick.

I guess if your feeling lucky, knowing that there may not be room in ICU if you do need it, go ahead, your choice.

126 people in NSW ICU, 113 unvaxed, 12 one dose of vaccine.


Mmmhmm, you're (see how to spell it now?) still stuck in the short term. What about the long term?

Looks like it's 'russian roulette' either way.
Though I'd rather take my chances in being one of the over 90% who recover with no issues, than inject a 'loaded gun' into my arm.

Buster fin
WA, 2596 posts
29 Aug 2021 11:33AM
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kiterboy said..
www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/health/study-suggests-prior-covid19-infection-more-effective-against-delta-than-pfizer-vaccine/news-story/7a62f53b75eb5d0004ce5cf3181b65b4

The study found those who have received two shots of the Pfizer vaccine were 13 times more likely to have a breakthrough infection of the Delta variant than those who had been previously infected with Covid-19 between January and February 2021.

Vaccinated individuals were also found to be at a greater risk of Covid-19 related hospitalisations compared to those who were previously infected.

Oh dear...best of luck pro-experimenters!




As long as your still alive, not suffering long Covid or have serious long term lung injuries from contracting Covid and being hospitalised. Vaccination aims to prevent hospitalisation and long term injury from said hospitalisation, it's playing Russian Roulette hoping not to get too sick.

I guess if your feeling lucky, knowing that there may not be room in ICU if you do need it, go ahead, your choice.

126 people in NSW ICU, 113 unvaxed, 12 one dose of vaccine.


So, one fully vaxed?

Carantoc
WA, 7189 posts
29 Aug 2021 1:18PM
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Buster fin said..
So, one fully vaxed?




Presumably.

1 of the 126 in ICU WITH covid 19.

Not 1 of the 126 in ICU BECAUSE of Covid.


It's not reported 12 people are in ICU because of having 1 dose of vaccine. Yet it is implied in the reporting 126 people are in because of covid.

ABC news today :

www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-29/push-for-young-people-to-get-vaccinated-in-the-uk-covid/100389022

Professor Edmunds said anyone over 12 also needs the jab - and fast. Obviously [children] are much less likely to have severe disease," he said. "But even if the risk is very low, one in 100,000 - [if] you multiply that by millions of people, then you'll get many ... young individuals with severe disease."

10 mate.. Take it from me, I ain't no professor but there are ten 100,000s in 1 million.

And 12 million kids in the UK, presumably not all over 12. So that's 120. Out of 60 million total people. 120 ain't gonna swamp ICU. 120 is 120 too many kids, for sure. One is one too many, but then today we also find out :

in SMH it is reported that 40 kids in NSW are rushed to hospital after self harm every day, up 47% since the start of the pandemic. In NSW, 6 million people, not 60 million.

And in Victoria it is 156 kids per day, up 88% since the start of pandemic.

www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/more-than-40-nsw-children-and-teenagers-rushed-to-hospital-for-self-harm-every-day-20210827-p58mg7.html

So 120 from 60 million total, versus 200 from 8 million DAILY.



Why is nobody mandating a vaccine against depression and locking us all down until we cheer up ?

Need to be a professor to understand ?

japie
NSW, 7145 posts
29 Aug 2021 6:03PM
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airsail said..


kiterboy said..
www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/health/study-suggests-prior-covid19-infection-more-effective-against-delta-than-pfizer-vaccine/news-story/7a62f53b75eb5d0004ce5cf3181b65b4

The study found those who have received two shots of the Pfizer vaccine were 13 times more likely to have a breakthrough infection of the Delta variant than those who had been previously infected with Covid-19 between January and February 2021.

Vaccinated individuals were also found to be at a greater risk of Covid-19 related hospitalisations compared to those who were previously infected.

Oh dear...best of luck pro-experimenters!





As long as your still alive, not suffering long Covid or have serious long term lung injuries from contracting Covid and being hospitalised. Vaccination aims to prevent hospitalisation and long term injury from said hospitalisation, it's playing Russian Roulette hoping not to get too sick.

I guess if your feeling lucky, knowing that there may not be room in ICU if you do need it, go ahead, your choice.

126 people in NSW ICU, 113 unvaxed, 12 one dose of vaccine.



Mmmhmm, you're (see how to spell it now?) still stuck in the short term. What about the long term?

Looks like it's 'russian roulette' either way.
Though I'd rather take my chances in being one of the over 90% who recover with no issues, than inject a 'loaded gun' into my arm.


I've watched so many practising doctors from around the world describing their success at treating Covid there really is no concern at all for me.
It's a no brainer. Minuscule risk from Covid weighed up against injections which have already resulted in the deaths of tens of thousands around the world and we are only 8 months into the experiment.

Mr Milk
NSW, 3116 posts
29 Aug 2021 6:22PM
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Texas anti-mask 'freedom defender' aged 30 dies of COVID-19 (smh.com.au)

A Texas man who led a group of "Freedom Defenders" against mask restrictions died of COVID-19 at age 30.Caleb Wallace left behind three children and a pregnant wife.

His wife, Jessica, announced her husband's death on a GoFundMe page on Saturday, US time, that had detailed his fight with COVID-19 the past few weeks."Caleb has peacefully passed on. He will forever live in our hearts and minds," she wrote.



Wallace had been unconscious since August 8, The San Angelo Standard-Times reported.
Wallace helped organise "The Freedom Rally" on July 4, 2020 - a gathering described in a flier as a peaceful protest by people "sick of the government being in control of our lives," the Standard-Times reported.
He also founded "The San Angelo Freedom Defenders," a group "to educate and empower citizens to make informed choices concerning local, statewide, and national policy and to encourage them to actively participate in their duty to secure God-given and constitutionally protected rights," the group's Facebook page stated.
Jessica Wallace said her husband got sick in late July, but "was so hard-headed". "He didn't want to see a doctor, because he didn't want to be part of the statistics with COVID tests," she said.



He then tried unproven ivermectin - a livestock dewormer that has been denounced by the FDA - high doses of vitamin C, zinc aspirin and an inhaler, the Standard-Times reported. Jessica Wallace told the newspaper she didn't always share her husband's views and that she wears a mask.

psychojoe
WA, 2239 posts
29 Aug 2021 5:24PM
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Texas anti-mask 'freedom defender' aged 30 dies of COVID-19 (smh.com.au)

A Texas man who led a group of "Freedom Defenders" against mask restrictions died of COVID-19 at age 30.Caleb Wallace left behind three children and a pregnant wife.

His wife, Jessica, announced her husband's death on a GoFundMe page on Saturday, US time, that had detailed his fight with COVID-19 the past few weeks."Caleb has peacefully passed on. He will forever live in our hearts and minds," she wrote.




Wallace had been unconscious since August 8, The San Angelo Standard-Times reported.
Wallace helped organise "The Freedom Rally" on July 4, 2020 - a gathering described in a flier as a peaceful protest by people "sick of the government being in control of our lives," the Standard-Times reported.
He also founded "The San Angelo Freedom Defenders," a group "to educate and empower citizens to make informed choices concerning local, statewide, and national policy and to encourage them to actively participate in their duty to secure God-given and constitutionally protected rights," the group's Facebook page stated.
Jessica Wallace said her husband got sick in late July, but "was so hard-headed". "He didn't want to see a doctor, because he didn't want to be part of the statistics with COVID tests," she said.




He then tried unproven ivermectin - a livestock dewormer that has been denounced by the FDA - high doses of vitamin C, zinc aspirin and an inhaler, the Standard-Times reported. Jessica Wallace told the newspaper she didn't always share her husband's views and that she wears a mask.


The man is a hero who died for the greater good.
May his soul rest in peace. And let none twist his memory.

Pugwash
WA, 7729 posts
29 Aug 2021 5:59PM
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Texas anti-mask 'freedom defender' aged 30 dies of COVID-19 (smh.com.au)

A Texas man who led a group of "Freedom Defenders" against mask restrictions died of COVID-19 at age 30.Caleb Wallace left behind three children and a pregnant wife.

His wife, Jessica, announced her husband's death on a GoFundMe page on Saturday, US time, that had detailed his fight with COVID-19 the past few weeks."Caleb has peacefully passed on. He will forever live in our hearts and minds," she wrote.




Wallace had been unconscious since August 8, The San Angelo Standard-Times reported.
Wallace helped organise "The Freedom Rally" on July 4, 2020 - a gathering described in a flier as a peaceful protest by people "sick of the government being in control of our lives," the Standard-Times reported.
He also founded "The San Angelo Freedom Defenders," a group "to educate and empower citizens to make informed choices concerning local, statewide, and national policy and to encourage them to actively participate in their duty to secure God-given and constitutionally protected rights," the group's Facebook page stated.
Jessica Wallace said her husband got sick in late July, but "was so hard-headed". "He didn't want to see a doctor, because he didn't want to be part of the statistics with COVID tests," she said.




He then tried unproven ivermectin - a livestock dewormer that has been denounced by the FDA - high doses of vitamin C, zinc aspirin and an inhaler, the Standard-Times reported. Jessica Wallace told the newspaper she didn't always share her husband's views and that she wears a mask.


I read Ivermectin has been loaded with 5G microchips to make sure the distribution is completed.

japie
NSW, 7145 posts
29 Aug 2021 8:03PM
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"The pandemic is not a health event, it's a monetary event." John Titus

From the first minute to 22 minutes John Titus presents the rationale behind that statement.

www.ukcolumn.org/video/doctors-for-covid-ethics-symposium-session-2-the-going-direct-reset

Mr Milk
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29 Aug 2021 8:11PM
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Pugwash said..

I read Ivermectin has been loaded with 5G microchips to make sure the distribution is completed.



So when all the farmyard animals go on line it will sound just like a dial up modem connecting

Kamikuza
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29 Aug 2021 8:43PM
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Mr Milk said..
Most commonly reported vaccine side effects
The most common adverse effects reported to the TGA following immunisation are predictable and have been observed with many vaccines. They include headache, muscle pain, fever, chills and injection site reactions for both vaccines.

In other words, trivial.


In other words, the expected immune response to non-mRNA vaccines.

These days the pucker factor is high: with those reporting systems and taking the last 18 months into context, I'm sure everyone is noticing every little twitch, sniffle and cough.

Has the data in the reporting systems been compared against what would be expected in a normal year? AFAIK, that's how they determined there was an actual issue with blood clots and myocarditis.

Which you won't hear from "the authorities" because they're too busy pretending to be infallible.

Kamikuza
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29 Aug 2021 8:45PM
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kiterboy said..
www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/health/study-suggests-prior-covid19-infection-more-effective-against-delta-than-pfizer-vaccine/news-story/7a62f53b75eb5d0004ce5cf3181b65b4

The study found those who have received two shots of the Pfizer vaccine were 13 times more likely to have a breakthrough infection of the Delta variant than those who had been previously infected with Covid-19 between January and February 2021.

Vaccinated individuals were also found to be at a greater risk of Covid-19 related hospitalisations compared to those who were previously infected.

Oh dear...best of luck pro-experimenters!


Could that be due to people taking advantage of being able to gather in public, relaxed mask mandates etc? Did they bother looking at things like that?

kiterboy
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29 Aug 2021 6:58PM
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Pugwash said..


I read Ivermectin has been loaded with 5G microchips to make sure the distribution is completed.




So when all the farmyard animals go on line it will sound just like a dial up modem connecting


Said the farmyard animal.

Pugwash
WA, 7729 posts
29 Aug 2021 8:26PM
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Mr Milk said..










Pugwash said..





I read Ivermectin has been loaded with 5G microchips to make sure the distribution is completed.







So when all the farmyard animals go on line it will sound just like a dial up modem connecting





Said the farmyard animal.




Baaaaaahhhhh baaaaahhhh baaaaahhhhh.

Ivermectin. . . for sheep

kiterboy
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29 Aug 2021 10:28PM
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Pugwash said..

kiterboy said..




Mr Milk said..












Pugwash said..






I read Ivermectin has been loaded with 5G microchips to make sure the distribution is completed.








So when all the farmyard animals go on line it will sound just like a dial up modem connecting






Said the farmyard animal.





Baaaaaahhhhh baaaaahhhh baaaaahhhhh.

Ivermectin. . . for sheep


Ba Ba guinea pig, you know you are a fool,
Yes sir yes sir, jab my arm full
One for disaster, one for the inane
One for the trial rat who really is insane.

Pugwash
WA, 7729 posts
30 Aug 2021 6:03AM
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Pugwash said..


kiterboy said..





Mr Milk said..














Pugwash said..







I read Ivermectin has been loaded with 5G microchips to make sure the distribution is completed.









So when all the farmyard animals go on line it will sound just like a dial up modem connecting







Said the farmyard animal.






Baaaaaahhhhh baaaaahhhh baaaaahhhhh.

Ivermectin. . . for sheep



Ba Ba guinea pig, you know you are a fool,
Yes sir yes sir, jab my arm full
One for disaster, one for the inane
One for the trial rat who really is insane.


Oh, I love your nursery rhyme. It's very funny. It could be better though. Perhaps you can make a tiktok of you singing it? Maybe with some dance along moves?

Brent in Qld
WA, 1390 posts
30 Aug 2021 6:20AM
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Mr Pugwash, please don't take the Seabreeze department of memes, links and name calling too seriously. Remember an hypothetical objective of ditching HW was to corral the multitude of non-binary, anti-mainstream views into a single thread for easy access to, or avoidance of, alternate universes. To this end, Covid-19 has helped enormously to focus the wandering paranoia of past threads onto a single topic of discontent.

kiterboy
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30 Aug 2021 8:18AM
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Pugwash said..

kiterboy said..


Pugwash said..



kiterboy said..






Mr Milk said..
















Pugwash said..








I read Ivermectin has been loaded with 5G microchips to make sure the distribution is completed.










So when all the farmyard animals go on line it will sound just like a dial up modem connecting








Said the farmyard animal.







Baaaaaahhhhh baaaaahhhh baaaaahhhhh.

Ivermectin. . . for sheep




Ba Ba guinea pig, you know you are a fool,
Yes sir yes sir, jab my arm full
One for disaster, one for the inane
One for the trial rat who really is insane.



Oh, I love your nursery rhyme. It's very funny. It could be better though. Perhaps you can make a tiktok of you singing it? Maybe with some dance along moves?


I knew you'd love it, I wrote it for simple-minded children.



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