Select to expand quoteFormulaNova said..cwamit said..
Ivermectin has 12 patents still registered, patents are associated with labels listed for usage, so a company can patent ivermectin as an anti viral drug and make money if they have approval from a countries health system for a label licence to be used as such. . another example of the labeling is glysophate labels, one company has label approval to use as a spray on crops, but if the end user uses a competing brand it could result in jail time for not following the registered label of that brand which is generic for most glysophate brands, So the registered label company sells it at a premium because that did the research , trials and testing for its to obtain registered approval.
Patents are applicable per country, so what you have said is probably correct. Just because there may not be a patent on a drug in one country for one use does not mean that there are not patents for its use in other countries and for other uses.
I guess you could get confused when you read the headline 'Ivermectin is off-patent' unless you knew how patents worked.
That said, there must be a lot of this stuff in production, so even though there is no money to be made from it, access would be easy.
I was reading this article and it doesn't really seem clear if Ivermectin is the miracle cure that some people think it is:
whyy.org/segments/some-doctors-think-theyve-found-a-cheap-generic-drug-which-treats-covid-19-so-why-hasnt-anyone-heard-of-it/
You clearly don't understand how patents work.
Select to expand quotekiterboy said..FormulaNova said..cwamit said..
Ivermectin has 12 patents still registered, patents are associated with labels listed for usage, so a company can patent ivermectin as an anti viral drug and make money if they have approval from a countries health system for a label licence to be used as such. . another example of the labeling is glysophate labels, one company has label approval to use as a spray on crops, but if the end user uses a competing brand it could result in jail time for not following the registered label of that brand which is generic for most glysophate brands, So the registered label company sells it at a premium because that did the research , trials and testing for its to obtain registered approval.
Patents are applicable per country, so what you have said is probably correct. Just because there may not be a patent on a drug in one country for one use does not mean that there are not patents for its use in other countries and for other uses.
I guess you could get confused when you read the headline 'Ivermectin is off-patent' unless you knew how patents worked.
That said, there must be a lot of this stuff in production, so even though there is no money to be made from it, access would be easy.
I was reading this article and it doesn't really seem clear if Ivermectin is the miracle cure that some people think it is:
whyy.org/segments/some-doctors-think-theyve-found-a-cheap-generic-drug-which-treats-covid-19-so-why-hasnt-anyone-heard-of-it/
You clearly don't understand how patents work.
Thanks stalkerboy.
Select to expand quoteFormulaNova said..kiterboy said..FormulaNova said..cwamit said..
Ivermectin has 12 patents still registered, patents are associated with labels listed for usage, so a company can patent ivermectin as an anti viral drug and make money if they have approval from a countries health system for a label licence to be used as such. . another example of the labeling is glysophate labels, one company has label approval to use as a spray on crops, but if the end user uses a competing brand it could result in jail time for not following the registered label of that brand which is generic for most glysophate brands, So the registered label company sells it at a premium because that did the research , trials and testing for its to obtain registered approval.
Patents are applicable per country, so what you have said is probably correct. Just because there may not be a patent on a drug in one country for one use does not mean that there are not patents for its use in other countries and for other uses.
I guess you could get confused when you read the headline 'Ivermectin is off-patent' unless you knew how patents worked.
That said, there must be a lot of this stuff in production, so even though there is no money to be made from it, access would be easy.
I was reading this article and it doesn't really seem clear if Ivermectin is the miracle cure that some people think it is:
whyy.org/segments/some-doctors-think-theyve-found-a-cheap-generic-drug-which-treats-covid-19-so-why-hasnt-anyone-heard-of-it/
You clearly don't understand how patents work.
Thanks stalkerboy.
I don't think you understand how public forums work.
Feeling better today thank you. Had my 2nd AZ on Tuesday. The Claremont Showrounds vaccination centre is now pumping out 5,900 per day. www.mediastatements.wa.gov.au/Pages/McGowan/2021/07/COVID-vaccine-program-expands-as-Western-Australians-Roll-Up.aspx
Takes a bit of organisation! For starters they've got to park over 1,000 of the oversized SUVs folks use to get around town in these days. They queue you up in two 20 by 20 arrays of white plastic chairs. One array for the Pfizers jabees and, on the other side of a picket fence, another 20 by 20 chairs for the AZers. Corralling officers move you forward 20 at a time, row by row in perfect synchronisation. The chairs never cool down, it is potentially a super-spreading event.
After about an hour of chair hopping, passing the time swapping covid conspiracy theories with your neighbour, you're corralled into one of the 60 injection booths , get a free drink while you wait another 15 for the effects to settle and off you go. Got your vaccinated ticket!
Even at this rate it's still going to be the end of the year before most people are done.
Ardern has announced only vaxed arrivals into NZ next year, vaxed with a vaccine not Ivermectin.
NSW looks to adopt a vaccination strategy rather than a suppression strategy.
Life is getting a lot harder for the unvaxed day by day.
Select to expand quoteairsail said..
Ardern has announced only vaxed arrivals into NZ next year, vaxed with a vaccine not Ivermectin.
NSW looks to adopt a vaccination strategy rather than a suppression strategy.
Life is getting a lot harder for the unvaxed day by day.
Sounds like you're getting harder day by day over your potential wish fulfillment.
Too bad you'll be let down in the end.
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Its one thing to be a flat Earther but to be an anti-vaxxer is just tempting fate so badly I cant believe you do it....!
Sort've like the reason I never fish for sharks....
Its all good, the numbers of non believers is getting less and less every week.
There was a lot of Sydney tradies that were saying no to the vax, but now have all had it other wise they cant work.
Its funny how people drop their tin foil hat, anti gov trying to cull us theories, once its in their area and starts to impact them personally.
But there are still idiots that dont give a poop about others, like the numb nuts from Sydney breaking the law and leaving town to head to northern nsw putting thousands more into lock down
What a tool.
He said " Yeeeaaah naaaa, I dont believe in covid". I wonder if he believes in the $10 000 fine he received? lol hahahaaaha
Its all good if he dosent think its real, but he still has to follow the law.
I dont think it should be law to not run over the slow moving poledancers in the surf or lycra wearing cyclists riding in the middle of the road that get in the way, but I dont because its the law......unless no one is watching
^^^^^ Oh so your meme shows its best to just get one shot then, is that your point?
You had better go book in........quick.....one shot is better than two shots, or no shot,,,, its on social media so its gotta be true. lol
I am 72 years young. only been in hospital twice both work related accidents.
Never had days off for sickness but week ago recieved AV shot. never felt better, sleep soundly, my willy loves life and is working very well.
would gladly run over any anti vaccsers if I ever meet one.
my 2nd shot took all of 12 minutes gotta live country towns where the doc, the hospital and chemist are all vying for your custom. There was one stupid knob who proclaimed in the pub he wasn't getting the jab. Guess what? he did, and the local bobby was the first to sit on his head while the shot was given.
Proud day in our little town
^^^^^^Love it. REAL Aussie democracy.
Maybe its time to send some of the city twitter Utube social media horse punchers out to the country pubs for some real Australian discussion's about community spirit .
Select to expand quoteairsail said..
Ardern has announced only vaxed arrivals into NZ next year, vaxed with a vaccine not Ivermectin.
NSW looks to adopt a vaccination strategy rather than a suppression strategy.
Life is getting a lot harder for the unvaxed day by day.
They'll still have to go through quarantine though, won't they? And that's the problem, it's impossible to get places in the unnecessary thing
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^^^^^^Love it. REAL Aussie democracy.
Yes I was pretty sure you didn't understand how democracy works
This is how it works in Australia mate.
We work together as mates to help our community and mates out in troubled times.
not like kamikaze suicide bombers working solo,
We are up to nearly 15 Million vaxed in Aussie now
Awesome. Record numbers getting vaxed every day.
When you look at how the majority of Australians have done the right thing, though not liking it, which has kept us from being like other countrys, USA etc. that have had 10's of thousands of deaths, just shows how we care more about each other and our community compared to countrys that dont have the mateship we have.
Best country in the world
Oh boy, now we've hit a new level in nationalistic stupidity and ignorance here. Why do i feel there would have been been similar tone of discussion if net forums existed during the nazi political
Parties rise to power or Sudam's proposed weapons of mass destruction or or or. Night all.
WOW, you are calling the crew who believe in doing right by their mates and community stupid and ignorant. ?
If internet forums were around back then Id be guessing the antivax, dont believe in covid crew would be the nazis, but thats a bit harsh.
Select to expand quotelotofwind said..
WOW, you are calling the crew who believe in doing right by their mates and community stupid and ignorant. ?
If internet forums were around back then Id be guessing the antivax, dont believe in covid crew would be the nazis, but thats a bit harsh.
I thought you weren't an expert on anything, but suddenly you know what's "right" by the community... is it divine revelation?
Holding people down and vaccinating them ... where have we heard of such outstanding community spirit before ...
Select to expand quotelotofwind said..
WOW, you are calling the crew who believe in doing right by their mates and community stupid and ignorant. ?
If internet forums were around back then Id be guessing the antivax, dont believe in covid crew would be the nazis, but thats a bit harsh.
if you really had any idea, you'd see that it's the pro vax who are nazi'esq.
if you get the vax, you're fine
why would you worry about those who don't..?
except your forcing them to follow your ideology, kind of like the nazi forced people to follow.
you're not helping your mates, you're weak and scared.
if you believed the vaccine worked, you'd be OK with getting it yourself and let others live as they choose.
tv lies, media lies, government by definition, lies. they always have and they can never change. everyone who watches tv is so far removed from what they are told, you cannot know what is true.
anyone who says to get the jab cause it's the aussie thing to do is a pathetic excuse whose anzac ancestors would be embarrassed and disgusted of
Select to expand quotelotofwind said..
WOW, you are calling the crew who believe in doing right by their mates and community stupid and ignorant. ?
If internet forums were around back then Id be guessing the antivax, dont believe in covid crew would be the nazis, but thats a bit harsh.
Oh i see you didnt quite comprehend the metaphor. Im sure those painting the star of david on peoples doors and businesses for easy identification and "re - allocation" were doing the right thing for their mates and communities.
Most of my extended family and even my wife has had the jab/s .. And probably future booster jabs. I respect their decision. They respect mine and also agree with my concerns.
But their point of view is "we might as well, as all of us will be mandated to do it eventually". They are probably right.
Its not a simple binary situation. There is a far greater middle grey area than vac and anti vac. Us and them. Red or blue.
I am just as appalled at extreme Vac subscribers as anti vac subscribers. What id like to see is an open nuanced conversation with as much data/info as possible.
but government, corporations, extreme groups and media trolls want none of that. Thing is history has shown that strong arming any population for any length of time only results in chaos.
Select to expand quoteeppo said..lotofwind said..
WOW, you are calling the crew who believe in doing right by their mates and community stupid and ignorant. ?
If internet forums were around back then Id be guessing the antivax, dont believe in covid crew would be the nazis, but thats a bit harsh.
Oh i see you didnt quite comprehend the metaphor. Im sure those painting the star of david on peoples doors and businesses for easy identification and "re - allocation" were doing the right thing for their mates and communities.
Most of my extended family and even my wife has had the jab/s .. And probably future booster jabs. I respect their decision. They respect mine and also agree with my concerns.
But their point of view is "we might as well, as all of us will be mandated to do it eventually". They are probably right.
Its not a simple binary situation. There is a far greater middle grey area than vac and anti vac. Us and them. Red or blue.
I am just as appalled at extreme Vac subscribers as anti vac subscribers. What id like to see is an open nuanced conversation with as much data/info as possible.
but government, corporations, extreme groups and media trolls want none of that. Thing is history has shown that strong arming any population for any length of time only results in chaos.
Try not to use words with more than two syllables or to make it too complicated.
Well I just had my second 5G jab this morning and my WiFi is running much faster
#Getajab
Select to expand quotetheDoctor said..
... anyone who says to get the jab cause it's the aussie thing to do is a pathetic excuse whose anzac ancestors would be embarrassed and disgusted of
Yeah, I find that hard to believe. A group of people that fought a war to protect their country and their allies. A lot dying in the cause.
I think if anything they would shake their heads at how self-centered people have become. Maybe you have gotten all mixed up. This is not a war against the government, its a war against a disease.
Select to expand quotetheDoctor said..lotofwind said..
WOW, you are calling the crew who believe in doing right by their mates and community stupid and ignorant. ?
If internet forums were around back then Id be guessing the antivax, dont believe in covid crew would be the nazis, but thats a bit harsh.
if you really had any idea, you'd see that it's the pro vax who are nazi'esq.
if you get the vax, you're fine
why would you worry about those who don't..?
except your forcing them to follow your ideology, kind of like the nazi forced people to follow.
you're not helping your mates, you're weak and scared.
if you believed the vaccine worked, you'd be OK with getting it yourself and let others live as they choose.
tv lies, media lies, government by definition, lies. they always have and they can never change. everyone who watches tv is so far removed from what they are told, you cannot know what is true.
anyone who says to get the jab cause it's the aussie thing to do is a pathetic excuse whose anzac ancestors would be embarrassed and disgusted of
You don't accept that this is something where everyone's decisions affect everyone else.
It's like having speed limits on the road.
Lots of people think that they aren't necessary, 'specially in light traffic, but we have them for the reason that they make driving less risky for everybody. Even the hoons are made safer if the people in front of them are driving at a predictable speed.
From the outset there have been anomalies in the Covid 19 narrative which alerted many individuals to the fact that something was not quite right.
Dr Peter McCollough is one of those individuals.
He is now recognised by independent medical practitioners throughout the English speaking world as one of if not the leading expert on the treatment of Covid 19.
In this interview he articulates how government agencies engineered what he describes as the grossest act of malfeasance in our era and which will be recognised as such in history.
Literally hundreds of thousands of lives have been sacrificed in the United States alone in order to achieve a global vaccination program on the fallacious premise that the corona virus could only be beaten by vaccination.
It's up to the people to enlighten themselves as to what has happened and is happening in order to bring a halt this insane trajectory into a dystopian totalitarian future.
Rest assured if this is not brought to a halt the precedent will become the norm.
Select to expand quotejapie said..
From the outset there have been anomalies in the Covid 19 narrative which alerted many individuals to the fact that something was not quite right.
Dr Peter McCollough is one of those individuals.
He is now recognised by independent medical practitioners throughout the English speaking world as one of if not the leading expert on the treatment of Covid 19.
In this interview he articulates how government agencies engineered what he describes as the grossest act of malfeasance in our era and which will be recognised as such in history.
Literally hundreds of thousands of lives have been sacrificed in the United States alone in order to achieve a global vaccination program on the fallacious premise that the corona virus could only be beaten by vaccination.
It's up to the people to enlighten themselves as to what has happened and is happening in order to bring a halt this insane trajectory into a dystopian totalitarian future.
Rest assured if this is not brought to a halt the precedent will become the norm.
Dr Peter McCullough espoused the conspiracy theory that COVID-19 vaccination campaigns are being used for nefarious purposes to track people. This conspiracy theory gained traction in groups such as QAnon and vaccine-opposing organizations, as reported by BBC and Rolling Stone. The conspiracy theory commonly goes hand in hand with the false claim that the vaccines contain microchips (see fact-checks here and here). At any rate, McCullough didn't provide any evidence for his claim.
The guys a quack
healthfeedback.org/claimreview/vaccines-are-a-safer-alternative-for-acquiring-immunity-compared-to-natural-infection-and-covid-19-survivors-benefit-from-getting-vaccinated-contrary-to-claims-by-peter-mccullough/
The guy is a cardiologist, not a immunologist or epidemiologist. Published a paper that was "peer reviewed" in 2 weeks (so it must be the truth).
factcheck.afp.com/us-cardiologist-makes-false-claims-about-covid-19-vaccination
