The Elon Musk Cult

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FormulaNova said..

Macroscien said..

kiterboy said..

Macroscien said..

FormulaNova said..

slipperyduck said..
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in doing so he tells the world to follow his lead, which they will driving the price higher. Etc... etc
Well played sir

I don't know if it will work. Even Macroscien has fallen out of love with him, so maybe the market will desert him?

No good being the messiah if no one follows you.

I think that Elon did reach ,then exceed his level of competency.
Now it reminds me mental illness with completely blurred border between reality and fiction.

Like our Trump, I doubt that Elon live in real world right now...
His tweets and public statements make you doubt really,
but anyway sill enjoy ever growing fun club of followers.
If you look at those fans and listen - more likely completely brainless people, just follow shiny leader...

Ooo! Someone sounds jealous!

I have to acknowledge that Elon and me are almost on the same brain wave, with such difference that every Elons dream (idea) comes to fruition and none of mine.. I still try to push ideas,further, and after total critics from other side, I can see some progress now. For example I envision electric cars equipped with solar panel to recharge battery. Specifically for biger vehicles. Elon laugh off such idea some time ago, but now there is new van presented with solar panels. They claim that dayly recharge could provide 30 miles range. Another is mid air returning booster capture. Space x strongly refuse, but I am sure after some time they will reconsider.
Remember our discussion here about spiral welding rockets instead of patches? It looks next Spaceships will be spiral welded as we wish here.

The next spaceships will be spiral welded? Well, that's not surprising since you told us back in September that Elon presented this idea 11 months before you mentioned it.

Are you sure you didn't fall asleep while watching his presentation and then dreamed that you invented it

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Amazingly I come across now Youtube Starship program update, where Elon Musk just confirmed that future versions after 1,2 made of welded rectangular plates , will be made of single coil, spirally welded , one seem.Even more amazingly I manage to post this idea telepathically backwards in time, good half a year , so Elon could present this 11 month ago....

so no need to worry, Starship will be spirally welded as we requested here.

and spiraling technology is good for battery in Tesla too
www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/elon-musk-tesla-battery-day-power-model-s-b537222.html?utm_content=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR1bI-LqmhQECeMqs9rh2ywGfWa_X_T7YreRCbn_VmZGVu9flX0IG4Ry658#Echobox=1600848589

now I only need to learn if his tunneling Boring company managed to have similar update on their tunel construction..."

Thank you, I told you we are on same brain wave.
Call this Quantum Brain Engagement Phenomenon.
With such difference Elon has everything and me nothing.

Elon get 140 bln dollars last year .
It means that for every hour at work is paid 44.8 mln dollars for every second his blink , sneeze or fart - $14,000.

I wish to buy brand new sail one day

BTW> there is mid air capture- currently tested by rocket company in NZ, and Chinese are also may go this path, after legs fail in bigger then Falcon rockets. SpaceX admitted only half way , to capture by grids by tower not my airships, blimps.Now we could do this future testing experiment.Hopefully there isn't another YouTube video postdated and showing MY IDEA of mid air capture with airship and vertically hanging line ( alternatively two airships and horizontal line) .

Yep, Formula . We arrived from the same planet.

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Macroscien said..

FormulaNova said..

Macroscien said..

kiterboy said..

Macroscien said..

FormulaNova said..

slipperyduck said..
...
in doing so he tells the world to follow his lead, which they will driving the price higher. Etc... etc
Well played sir

I don't know if it will work. Even Macroscien has fallen out of love with him, so maybe the market will desert him?

No good being the messiah if no one follows you.

I think that Elon did reach ,then exceed his level of competency.
Now it reminds me mental illness with completely blurred border between reality and fiction.

Like our Trump, I doubt that Elon live in real world right now...
His tweets and public statements make you doubt really,
but anyway sill enjoy ever growing fun club of followers.
If you look at those fans and listen - more likely completely brainless people, just follow shiny leader...

Ooo! Someone sounds jealous!

I have to acknowledge that Elon and me are almost on the same brain wave, with such difference that every Elons dream (idea) comes to fruition and none of mine.. I still try to push ideas,further, and after total critics from other side, I can see some progress now. For example I envision electric cars equipped with solar panel to recharge battery. Specifically for biger vehicles. Elon laugh off such idea some time ago, but now there is new van presented with solar panels. They claim that dayly recharge could provide 30 miles range. Another is mid air returning booster capture. Space x strongly refuse, but I am sure after some time they will reconsider.
Remember our discussion here about spiral welding rockets instead of patches? It looks next Spaceships will be spiral welded as we wish here.

The next spaceships will be spiral welded? Well, that's not surprising since you told us back in September that Elon presented this idea 11 months before you mentioned it.

Are you sure you didn't fall asleep while watching his presentation and then dreamed that you invented it

"
Amazingly I come across now Youtube Starship program update, where Elon Musk just confirmed that future versions after 1,2 made of welded rectangular plates , will be made of single coil, spirally welded , one seem.Even more amazingly I manage to post this idea telepathically backwards in time, good half a year , so Elon could present this 11 month ago....

so no need to worry, Starship will be spirally welded as we requested here.

and spiraling technology is good for battery in Tesla too
www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/elon-musk-tesla-battery-day-power-model-s-b537222.html?utm_content=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR1bI-LqmhQECeMqs9rh2ywGfWa_X_T7YreRCbn_VmZGVu9flX0IG4Ry658#Echobox=1600848589

now I only need to learn if his tunneling Boring company managed to have similar update on their tunel construction..."

Thank you, I told you we are on same brain wave.
Call this Quantum Brain Engagement Phenomenon.
With such difference Elon has everything and me nothing.

Yes, you could have quantum brain-entanglement, going into the past with Elon Musk, or you could have read or heard about his ideas, as you say, 11 months before hand, and then remembered it, but as a unique thought.

I suspect you are right and its the first one. The second one about hearing or reading it and then forgetting it was already planned is just nonsense.

I am trying to remember the name of the book, but there was a book published that describes how most inventions are the result of iterations of change and that at the time a lot of people were working on the idea and that many people had the same concept. Its rarely that something is completely out of left field.

I.e. the wright brothers did not invent the aeroplane, but they are recognized with producing the first working example, and there may have been others before them or with exactly the same idea.

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Macroscien said..

FormulaNova said..
I was listening to a radio program the other day where one of the host's decided (jokingly I think) that she invented "Siri" as she wrote a story in school English class about computers that responded to human voices, in the 80s by the sounds of it. She completely ignored that what she described was super common because before computers were more mainstream that's how people expected to interact with computers. Everyone assumed that's how you worked with computers. Typing? No. Sci-Fi programs always had people talking with computers.

Its a huge step from imagining something to making it a reality.

I might invent gravity lenses. Something that focusses gravity so that it can move things using gravity from a remote planet. Does it work? No idea? Is it possible? No idea. Does it fit with the world of physics? No idea. BUT I invented it!

yep, friend of mine invented Black Hole. Do you want him to demonstrate, how it works? or rather wait a bit and be happy with theoreyical formula?

He 'invented' a natural phenomenon? You are friends with God?

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eppo said..
Macro you are a thinker. Kudos. But until you do something with it you are just that. A thinker. That's where you and Elon differ and it's light years in distance.
Just listened to joe Rogans last podcast with Elon. Anyone who denies the brilliance of this guy and also his sound intentions is either just jealous or just too stupid to know they are wrong. Listen the guy think, then talk. And also his incredible work ethic. A once in a generation type person.

Nobody could denied Elon achievements. .They are extraordinary. But we have also agree they are supported by extraordinary lucky, extraordinary supportive environment. From near buncrupt few years ago to the cosmic bubble fortune. Beside we have to agree that Elon didn't invent anything, just get skills to find a team to implement known ideas. Even greater skill to convince people to follow.
His Falcon rocket engine are just copy cut reverse engineering of decades old Russian rocket engines. Engines Rd180 that American use to buy from Russians because unable to replicate technology. Since somebody like Elon get old crew from NASA program that decipher and crack Russian patents. Similar story with electric vehicle constructed on laptop batteries.
I don't have team or funds. Funds for laptop battery to power my electric inventions. So my electric solar tractor is still running on battery for electric bicycle.
BTW.I invented recently water bore pump that works on air and never brakes down. Because my Chinese electric pumps keep failing constantly. I lost 4 of them already.
So my new pump should deliver water , even muddy , with sediments, to any head required and never brakes down, once running on our Sun energy alone. Lucky guy like Elon will have instantly millions in patents. Me be lucky to get few hundred dollars for plastic pipes to get 35 meters deep bore and few basic parts.
But when project finished cattle could enjoy free drink and even showers at scorching Australia heat. Not a rocket science, but still proud to make something useful.My pump should be able to pump any liquids, oil including. In the country like US could replace typical repricical oil pumps, because they are easier to install , unbreakable and cheaper.

Take out a provisional patient it's only $90 & then you have a year to sell the patient rights or 2
If you pay $340 for a search on it

Tesla buying Bitcoin is the just like Fonzi jumping the shark ! Both Tesla and Bitcoin are going to zero $0.

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Macroscien said..

eppo said..
Macro you are a thinker. Kudos. But until you do something with it you are just that. A thinker. That's where you and Elon differ and it's light years in distance.
Just listened to joe Rogans last podcast with Elon. Anyone who denies the brilliance of this guy and also his sound intentions is either just jealous or just too stupid to know they are wrong. Listen the guy think, then talk. And also his incredible work ethic. A once in a generation type person.

Nobody could denied Elon achievements. .They are extraordinary. But we have also agree they are supported by extraordinary lucky, extraordinary supportive environment. From near buncrupt few years ago to the cosmic bubble fortune. Beside we have to agree that Elon didn't invent anything, just get skills to find a team to implement known ideas. Even greater skill to convince people to follow.
His Falcon rocket engine are just copy cut reverse engineering of decades old Russian rocket engines. Engines Rd180 that American use to buy from Russians because unable to replicate technology. Since somebody like Elon get old crew from NASA program that decipher and crack Russian patents. Similar story with electric vehicle constructed on laptop batteries.
I don't have team or funds. Funds for laptop battery to power my electric inventions. So my electric solar tractor is still running on battery for electric bicycle.
BTW.I invented recently water bore pump that works on air and never brakes down. Because my Chinese electric pumps keep failing constantly. I lost 4 of them already.
So my new pump should deliver water , even muddy , with sediments, to any head required and never brakes down, once running on our Sun energy alone. Lucky guy like Elon will have instantly millions in patents. Me be lucky to get few hundred dollars for plastic pipes to get 35 meters deep bore and few basic parts.
But when project finished cattle could enjoy free drink and even showers at scorching Australia heat. Not a rocket science, but still proud to make something useful.My pump should be able to pump any liquids, oil including. In the country like US could replace typical repricical oil pumps, because they are easier to install , unbreakable and cheaper.

Yeh you make some relevant points about Elon. I value creative thinkers and you seem to be one.

but many hands make light work as they say.
It's the process of thinking, invention and bringing that into reality that counts not what you get out of it. Keep at it man. Kudos.

The question could be :WHEN ?not even
IF.
Tesla stock prices are going to be rationalized ?


Newly created company doesn't have intrinsic value and like DogeCoin relay on public trust and stream of printed money channeled through stock exchange., Government subsidies ( Carbon tax credits is is going to stop going in one direction only.

Looking at picture it will be interesting to know : What is fair value of Tesla stock share price if become typical for ordinary motor company?

At some stage specialist consultation and treatment will be required, I am afraid.
Another option could be exile to Mars, where he could grow and eat Martian potato's,while leaving all trillions of his dollars here on Earth.