Select to expand quoteImax1 said..Toph said..Imax1 said..
If you could absolutely incinerate your plastic , and other flammables , properly , with minimum soot, to generate power , it would have to be better than the energy sapping cloak that we are now doing.
Ask Singapore how they do it.....
I would think a litre of foul slime bong water would be better to safely dispose than ten tonnes of crap floating in our oceans . And also making a lot of energy to propel our new electric everything's . And could possibly turn that slime into roads or park benches .
Singapore ain't that dumb.
What are we doing ?
I've been working in Singapore for the past 6 months and have heard/learnt a bit about the incinerator they have here for disposing of rubbish. I've been working just down the road from the facility in fact. Don't know the absolute detail but it would appear they have a system of burning near all their own domestic waste with negligible emissions and a minimal amount of leftover ash and particulate to deal with... Plus as mentioned... they generate electricity from the whole process.
Has this ever seriously been considered in Aus?? I remember it was proposed in NZ more than 30 years ago but the green brigade determined the emissions would go up into the upper atmosphere and contaminate all the farmland... Highly likely this was mostly BS but after 30 years surely furnace design and particulate collection has improved to a point where emissions are actually negligible?? And while there will always be some residue... that must be easier to manage than the millions of cubic meters of festering crap we currently don't have an answer for?
By comparison, I also just got back from a couple of weeks in the paradise of Bali....
Beaches littered with plastic waste... toothpaste tubes and disposable nappies mostly for some reason. While walking near the river mouth at Medewi, came across a fresh dumping area with all manner of plastic and domestic waste waiting for the rains to come and wash it out to sea.... 
. This was not tourist rubbish.... all local.
Would have been better if they just set fire to the rubbish in the paddock rather than push it out in the ocean.
All the propaganda about how developed nations must do more.... blah blah blah no straws and no plastic bacs.... what BS. That is not where the rubbish and pollution is coming from
Every eco resort i ever went to in asia theyd dif a hole in back the coconut grove and burn the thousands of plastic bottles theyre eco friendly guests would drink. Whole situation is a joke
And im talking hundreds of $usd a night to hang out with a bunch of nutbags in off white linen
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Every eco resort i ever went to in asia theyd dif a hole in back the coconut grove and burn the thousands of plastic bottles theyre eco friendly guests would drink. Whole situation is a joke
And im talking hundreds of $usd a night to hang out with a bunch of nutbags in off white linen
I still don't understand causehecan why do you want to sail there? No rubbish up the coast of Australia.
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Ten bucks a tank vs 200 50cents a beer vs $10
it's just simple math
Select to expand quoteEmeboy said..
I've been working in Singapore for the past 6 months and have heard/learnt a bit about the incinerator they have here for disposing of rubbish. I've been working just down the road from the facility in fact. Don't know the absolute detail but it would appear they have a system of burning near all their own domestic waste with negligible emissions and a minimal amount of leftover ash and particulate to deal with... Plus as mentioned... they generate electricity from the whole process.
Has this ever seriously been considered in Aus??
Whilst it isn't on the the same level, Richgro have their anaerobic digester. It's a fantastic setup and they have obviously tried to do their bit. I know they have a recycling thing going on and the plant generates a huge amount of power.
biomassproducer.com.au/project/richgro-digester-makes-the-most-out-of-food-waste/#.XT8QMTc_WdM
A step in the right direction!
Select to expand quotecausehecan said..
Ten bucks a tank vs 200 50cents a beer vs $10
Im amazed your asking
Right on, I get you mate 
Select to expand quoteMDSXR6T said..Emeboy said..
I've been working in Singapore for the past 6 months and have heard/learnt a bit about the incinerator they have here for disposing of rubbish. I've been working just down the road from the facility in fact. Don't know the absolute detail but it would appear they have a system of burning near all their own domestic waste with negligible emissions and a minimal amount of leftover ash and particulate to deal with... Plus as mentioned... they generate electricity from the whole process.
Has this ever seriously been considered in Aus??
Whilst it isn't on the the same level, Richgro have their anaerobic digester. It's a fantastic setup and they have obviously tried to do their bit. I know they have a recycling thing going on and the plant generates a huge amount of power.
biomassproducer.com.au/project/richgro-digester-makes-the-most-out-of-food-waste/#.XT8QMTc_WdM
A step in the right direction!
That is a great step in the right direction!
Some years ago the company I worked for quoted on the installation of a 'digester' type processing system as well. The basic concept consisted of the digester which was essentially a series of large rotary kilns where mixed waste was loaded in one end and as the digester slowly rotated, the organic material broke down and was flushed away from the non organic material.
The organic material was then processed similar to sewerage, with the methane captured for electricity generation and the remaining treated organic waste turned into fertiliser. All the solid non organic waste was going to be dumped into old mine shafts as backfill. The theory being that once all the organics were removed, the balance was fairly inert.
Veolia were behind the project but I cannot find any info on it.... maybe it never got the green light? They do have anaerobic digester facilities as well though for organic waste which is awesome. Why cant similar plants be funded/subsidised by the Govt right across the country?? (or the world for that matter??) Technology development, jobs, manufacturing and helping to clean the planet..... lots of ticks in boxes right there....
