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Recent Car buying experience

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Created by Storm Ahead > 9 months ago, 22 Aug 2021
Storm Ahead
QLD, 137 posts
22 Aug 2021 11:05AM
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I have been looking at buying a new vehicle and am finding the process rather tedious and difficult in the current environment.

Recently, I made an appointment at a local dealership at 10:00am on a weekday and was kept waiting until 10:35am by the salesman, then after test-driving the demo model, I sat down to do the deal and couldn't even get a set of car mats thrown in. To make matters even worse, I was told that I would have to wait 8 to 10 months for delivery! Also, I was being quoted full MSRP with NO trade in. I couldn't take it anymore, and walked out.

I have heard similar stories from others who are also trying to update their car or truck.

I am thinking about using a buying agent such as Kogan carsales. Has anyone had any experience with them or any other buying agent?

TonyAbbott
924 posts
22 Aug 2021 9:31AM
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Covid Government Policy has created supply issues.

Your story is common and is not going to get better anytime soon. Toyota have announced they are cutting production by 40% due to chip supplies. I would assume all manufacturers face same problems.

Second hand 4x4s brought before covid are selling for nearly as much as they were bought for originally

stoff
WA, 248 posts
22 Aug 2021 10:43AM
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I just bought a new car due to my last one getting written off (rear ended bent chassis)
Picked up a Ranger XLT brand new, saved a small amount off retail, threw in floor mats and a tank of juice and upgraded the wheels to wildtrak alloys at no charge.
Titan Ford in Melville, dealt with Frank, experience couldn't have been better!

Ian K
WA, 4162 posts
22 Aug 2021 12:32PM
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stoff said..
I just bought a new car due to my last one getting written off (rear ended bent chassis)
Picked up a Ranger XLT brand new, saved a small amount off retail, threw in floor mats and a tank of juice and upgraded the wheels to wildtrak alloys at no charge.
Titan Ford in Melville, dealt with Frank, experience couldn't have been better!


16" steelies are coming back, hope he threw them in the tray for you? Ford Melville has a low km Suzuki Jimny with $42,995 on the window! Less than 30k brand new. Not that they've sold it yet.

Imax1
QLD, 4926 posts
22 Aug 2021 4:11PM
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TonyAbbott said..



Covid Government Policy has created supply issues.

Your story is common and is not going to get better anytime soon. Toyota have announced they are cutting production by 40% due to chip supplies. I would assume all manufacturers face same problems.

Second hand 4x4s brought before covid are selling for nearly as much as they were bought for originally



Apparently a factory that made these chips for just about all cars had a fire . A $2 item that has stopped almost all production . There back on it , but there is now a 8 month wait .
So im told .
We just got in before this chip problem . Last batch before a 10 month wait .
New cars are so rare now and people will pay full price with no freebies. Second hand stuff is so expensive now . Just have a look at second hand landcruisers
If you could wait a year , there will be heaps of cars on the market , all at once . Then they will be begging you to buy , probably get a free bluey for the back of the Ute .

Buster fin
WA, 2596 posts
22 Aug 2021 2:37PM
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Yet, renew your car insurance and have a look at how woeful the 'market value' is.

hilly
WA, 7943 posts
22 Aug 2021 3:20PM
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TonyAbbott said..Government Policy has created supply issues.


Please explain???

TonyAbbott
924 posts
22 Aug 2021 3:50PM
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Covid does not shut borders, restrict travel, shut down businesses etc etc

governments do.

Mark _australia
WA, 23510 posts
22 Aug 2021 4:08PM
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^^ and you would have done what? Injected bleach ?

psychojoe
WA, 2238 posts
22 Aug 2021 4:13PM
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Mark _australia said..
^^ and you would have done what? Injected bleach ?


I would have Swedened. Mistakes were made but they were smaller than ours. I'm still thinking Sweden.

Carantoc
WA, 7189 posts
22 Aug 2021 4:31PM
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psychojoe said..
I would have Swedened. Mistakes were made but they were smaller than ours. I'm still thinking Sweden.


What a Volvo ?

Next you'll be wanting a Skoda, wearing leather patches on your cardigan elbows, start drawing pictures of houses and be touting champagne socialism on a watersports forum.

Carantoc
WA, 7189 posts
22 Aug 2021 4:32PM
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Why do cars need microchips anyway.

Get a decent diesel and it doesn't even need electrickery.

Storm Ahead
QLD, 137 posts
22 Aug 2021 6:41PM
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I was talking with a furniture salesman at Nick Scali recently. He was telling me how he used to be a car salesman and knows how the game works. He too recently tried to buy a Hilux SR5 and pretty much got the same treatment that I got. He also ended up walking away from the deal. Still hasn't got a new car....

Maybe, I will just go ahead and order a Tesla. No salesmen, no haggling or very long wait time.

psychojoe
WA, 2238 posts
22 Aug 2021 4:43PM
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Carantoc said..

psychojoe said..
I would have Swedened. Mistakes were made but they were smaller than ours. I'm still thinking Sweden.



What a Volvo ?

Next you'll be wanting a Skoda, wearing leather patches on your cardigan elbows, start drawing pictures of houses and be touting champagne socialism on a watersports forum.


My hire car in Poland was a little Skoda. Great car. The speed limit is 140 there but everyone sits on 160, and that little machine was stable and comfortable. I'd buy one in a heartbeat

Imax1
QLD, 4926 posts
22 Aug 2021 7:00PM
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Carantoc said..
Why do cars need microchips anyway.

Get a decent diesel and it doesn't even need electrickery.


Go steam , I say.

Imax1
QLD, 4926 posts
22 Aug 2021 7:11PM
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Carantoc said..

psychojoe said..
I would have Swedened. Mistakes were made but they were smaller than ours. I'm still thinking Sweden.



What a Volvo ?

Next you'll be wanting a Skoda, wearing leather patches on your cardigan elbows, start drawing pictures of houses and be touting champagne socialism on a watersports forum.


I had a old Volvo for a few years . Great car . Never a problem . Best turning circle of any car , even though it was station wagon . Full length mattress in the back with room of a small esky at the feet .Only problem was the Volvo stigma. Everyone had to pass me no matter how fast I was going .
Now it would be a super cool car that my daughter would love to own .

Pitbull
WA, 1267 posts
22 Aug 2021 6:00PM
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I just bought a car and about 300kms in the lights came on like a Christmas tree. Water coming out exhaust. Dealer says not covered by statutory warranty though I did purchase extended warranty from dealer.
Are they obliged to fix problem instead of band aid solution?

Imax1
QLD, 4926 posts
22 Aug 2021 8:20PM
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Pitbull said..
I just bought a car and about 300kms in the lights came on like a Christmas tree. Water coming out exhaust. Dealer says not covered by statutory warranty though I did purchase extended warranty from dealer.
Are they obliged to fix problem instead of band aid solution?


Second hand car warranty are worth ****.
Bought a dodgy car with said warranty and back shocks leaked . Went back and guy said shocks are not under warranty because I could have towed overweight . I said there is no towbar . He said , I could have put one on and then taken it off .
OK
It was blowing smoke and using oil.
Took it back and same dodgy bloke said unless it's using more than 500 ml oil per 100 km it's not a problem .
wtf ?
500 ml per 100 km would be worse than starting up a cold two stroke dirt bike . Constantly .
Second hand car warranty , pffffft !

Pitbull
WA, 1267 posts
22 Aug 2021 7:05PM
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Did you follow up with Consumer Protection?

Ian K
WA, 4162 posts
22 Aug 2021 7:15PM
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Yes whatever you do don't get extended warranty. We mistakenly ticked the box once and I went thru the fine print. The most astounding thing in the fine print was that up to 85% of your warranty payment goes in commission to the dealer who sold you it! They don't plan to need to use much of your money in actual repairs. I didn't test it out with a claim. I just demanded a refund and got it without any resistance.

FormulaNova
WA, 15088 posts
22 Aug 2021 7:29PM
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Carantoc said..
Why do cars need microchips anyway.

Get a decent diesel and it doesn't even need electrickery.


Its to track them. Derr!

It's also so that VWs can pass emission tests.

bobin
WA, 36 posts
22 Aug 2021 9:08PM
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Ring up one of the country dealers- it might be hard to test drive, but they are way easier to deal with and same price straight up as city dealers with out all the bull****e!

AUS1111
WA, 3621 posts
23 Aug 2021 7:43AM
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Storm Ahead said..
I have been looking at buying a new vehicle and am finding the process rather tedious and difficult in the current environment.

Recently, I made an appointment at a local dealership at 10:00am on a weekday and was kept waiting until 10:35am by the salesman, then after test-driving the demo model, I sat down to do the deal and couldn't even get a set of car mats thrown in. To make matters even worse, I was told that I would have to wait 8 to 10 months for delivery! Also, I was being quoted full MSRP with NO trade in. I couldn't take it anymore, and walked out.

I have heard similar stories from others who are also trying to update their car or truck.

I am thinking about using a buying agent such as Kogan carsales. Has anyone had any experience with them or any other buying agent?



What car were you trying to buy? (and where?)

actiomax
NSW, 1576 posts
23 Aug 2021 11:37AM
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When I bought my transit new about 10 years ago I ordered it & was told that I could get one off the next boat coming in 6 weeks but if I wanted it customised I would have to wait at least 3 months for the next boat.
So I said cool just go standard get me one off the next boat.
12weeks later I ring up & ask we're is my transit to get told & this is fair dinkum I couldn't make this up .
Theres been a delay the ship has been held up by strong tides & won't be here for 3months .
I said alright you didn't get the order in & I'm waiting for the next boat but she insisted that it was the next boat but extremely strong tides were delaying it for 3 months.
I just hung up I was pissed right off .
The fact they never rang & told me about the delay and for trying to treat me like an idiot.

crustysailor
VIC, 871 posts
23 Aug 2021 1:41PM
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We ordered a new/replacement car back in March, after a pretty decent stack that probably should have called us all quits.
I knew about the display driver IC global shortage, and understood there was a delay.
But for other reasons was blissfully unaware of the other significant flooding/fires etc that were ravaging the opposite side of the globe.

20+ people drowned in a train due to flash flooding the weekend after I had just phoned the dealer to get an update, so yes I did feel like a (your choice) knob/twat/inconsiderate ...
The car is still not here, and has been 'in paint' for about a month (eta now November if we are lucky), but its pretty much a first world problem by comparison.

For many reasons, there truly is bugger all stock anywhere.
Add to that the blow out cost of shipping virtually anything from anywhere, I think this is the new norm for along time ahead.

micksmith
VIC, 1701 posts
23 Aug 2021 2:08PM
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psychojoe said..

Carantoc said..


psychojoe said..
I would have Swedened. Mistakes were made but they were smaller than ours. I'm still thinking Sweden.




What a Volvo ?

Next you'll be wanting a Skoda, wearing leather patches on your cardigan elbows, start drawing pictures of houses and be touting champagne socialism on a watersports forum.



My hire car in Poland was a little Skoda. Great car. The speed limit is 140 there but everyone sits on 160, and that little machine was stable and comfortable. I'd buy one in a heartbeat


Same, my next car for sure, octavia me thinks

Storm Ahead
QLD, 137 posts
24 Aug 2021 7:33AM
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micksmith said..

psychojoe said..


Carantoc said..



psychojoe said..
I would have Swedened. Mistakes were made but they were smaller than ours. I'm still thinking Sweden.





What a Volvo ?

Next you'll be wanting a Skoda, wearing leather patches on your cardigan elbows, start drawing pictures of houses and be touting champagne socialism on a watersports forum.




My hire car in Poland was a little Skoda. Great car. The speed limit is 140 there but everyone sits on 160, and that little machine was stable and comfortable. I'd buy one in a heartbeat



Same, my next car for sure, octavia me thinks


I did consider the Skoda Kodiaq RS 4x4
However, now there is news of the Tesla Model Y coming in the next few months. No more 'dealer experience' no more servicing and no more petrol stations....

Storm Ahead
QLD, 137 posts
24 Aug 2021 7:37AM
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AUS1111 said..

Storm Ahead said..
I have been looking at buying a new vehicle and am finding the process rather tedious and difficult in the current environment.

Recently, I made an appointment at a local dealership at 10:00am on a weekday and was kept waiting until 10:35am by the salesman, then after test-driving the demo model, I sat down to do the deal and couldn't even get a set of car mats thrown in. To make matters even worse, I was told that I would have to wait 8 to 10 months for delivery! Also, I was being quoted full MSRP with NO trade in. I couldn't take it anymore, and walked out.

I have heard similar stories from others who are also trying to update their car or truck.

I am thinking about using a buying agent such as Kogan carsales. Has anyone had any experience with them or any other buying agent?




What car were you trying to buy? (and where?)


New Dmax Xterrain at the dealership M1 Exit 66

stoff
WA, 248 posts
24 Aug 2021 9:14AM
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Have you gone to their websites, done the ring around? I went to 2 other dealerships who told me October for the colour/spec I wanted and weren't willing to negotiate at all. Found the car I wanted in stock at Titan and did a good deal. If you hunt around a bit there is some stock out there.
Those x terrains are already discounted aren't they? Unlikely to get any further cash off.
Its been in the news that Isuzu are having long wait times, I'm surprised you weren't aware

FormulaNova
WA, 15088 posts
27 Dec 2021 4:11PM
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raitioneulon said..
Recently i buy the Nissan skyline as a jdm car from jdm Sport classics that hep me a lot in importing and providing the best services.


I heard that JDM Sport classics sell cars with their steering wheels on the wrong side. Never buy a car with the steering wheel on the wrong side! I told them and they just told me 'bad luck'.

Mark _australia
WA, 23510 posts
27 Dec 2021 5:08PM
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JDM Sport classics sell bad cars no warranty JDM Classics overpriced
JDM classics being investigated for fraud illegal activity
Imports break down

Helping with your google rankings mate?



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