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Property settlement and finances help needed

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Created by Despair > 9 months ago, 4 Dec 2017
busterwa
3782 posts
6 Dec 2017 7:52AM
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Is your ex called Crypto? I think he has sold your assets and wired the Kudos thru bitcoin into his mates account for safe storage.

Despair
38 posts
6 Dec 2017 9:53AM
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If anyone is knowledgable in this area and can help me or knows of someone that's had a similar case.
Any family or friends that a lawyer in Perth is good. Pleased let me know.
I would greatly appreciate it.

If not. I am grateful for those that did. Minus a few idiots.

Water sports ??

Agent nods
622 posts
6 Dec 2017 10:02AM
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There are free services,

Don't know which state in Australia you are in. In Qld there are Dispute Resolution Centres that are free. Other states have similar.


www.qld.gov.au/law/legal-mediation-and-justice-of-the-peace/settling-disputes-out-of-court/separating-couples-mediation


Separating couples mediation

When a relationship breaks down, you have to make a lot of decisions about the future all at once. It can be a very stressful time.Separating couples might argue over property settlement, care of the children, child support and other financial matters.Assistance to work through these issues is available through Family Dispute Resolution and Family Relationship Centres.Mediation through a Dispute Resolution Centre is another alternative. It's free and confidential.Mediation helps separating couples settle disputes by discussing their differences in the presence of trained mediators and working out their own solution.Impartial mediators keep the discussion focused and help clarify the issues.

GeoffD
WA, 73 posts
6 Dec 2017 10:04AM
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Google "pro bono family law perth".

The internet is (usually...often..sometimes...) your friend.

Despair
38 posts
6 Dec 2017 11:03AM
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I'm in Perth wa.
Thankyou.

Agent nods
622 posts
6 Dec 2017 11:43AM
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Perth Family Relationship Centre



How can the Perth Family Relationship Centre help?The Perth Family Relationship Centre can help you by providing information about family relationships at all stages - forming new relationships, overcoming relationship difficulties or dealing with separation. We can also refer you to other services that can help.If you are parents experiencing separation we will talk with you to help you focus on your children's needs and help you decide what to do next. We can also provide Family Dispute Resolution sessions with the other parent or family members to help you agree on parenting arrangements.The Centre is also supported by community education programs and seminars.


Are the services free?We provide information, referral and individual sessions free of charge. We provide one hour of family dispute resolution sessions free of charge (up to four hours where interpreters are used) and may charge fees after this depending on your circumstances. We will discuss these fees with you so that you can decide whether to commence sessions here or use another service with a different fees policy

https://www.relationshipswa.org.au/services/family-relationship-centres/Perth-Family-Relationship-Centre.aspx

busterwa
3782 posts
6 Dec 2017 12:51PM
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You might want to give him time. A 30/70 Youd be devo

Unless the split was due to domestic violence he has probally felt like he has rolled around in **** 12 hours a day 6 days a week to get cleaned out. It wouldn't surprise me if hes living out the back seat of his car or sitting on a bridge some where ready to jump off. ;-(

You gota stop pushin him into a corner Show some compassion get on talking terms with him. Its imperative for the kids and you both finantually

Theres no real winner except real estate agents lawyers

www.ruok.org.au/

fanfare
55 posts
6 Dec 2017 3:35PM
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busterwa said..
You might want to give him time. A 30/70 Youd be devo

Unless the split was due to domestic violence he has probally felt like he has rolled around in **** 12 hours a day 6 days a week to get cleaned out. It wouldn't surprise me if hes living out the back seat of his car or sitting on a bridge some where ready to jump off. ;-(

You gota stop pushin him into a corner Show some compassion get on talking terms with him. Its imperative for the kids and you both finantually

Theres no real winner except real estate agents lawyers

www.ruok.org.au/


no kids and lost all his super

lawyers say no because "All say that his bad decisions in managing his super has put it to nil. "

don't wanna be in either these 2's shoes or the kids.

glad i'm not doing the SMSF thing now tho so some good came out of this random thread.

Despair
38 posts
6 Dec 2017 4:17PM
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His not living in his car his in a 4x2 house.

I haven't pushed him in a corner and I've tried to talk to him sensibly his answer still is no.

As for the kids they are a mess but I haven't stopped them in seeing their dad when they want to.

Just wish he would do things in a proper manner. Like I said above, he can go his own way that's fine but be reasonable about everything.

Its true lawyers are the winners here. But it's tough when the other party doesn't care. I have tried.

FormulaNova
WA, 15086 posts
6 Dec 2017 5:07PM
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Cool, it sounds like we have solved your problem. You need a lawyer, no question. Just getting to the bottom of the superannuation question is going to be fun, although even when you split it you can't touch it until retirement, so its not that time critical.

As for anyone here being a lawyer or knowing someone who is a lawyer that can help you, I think you have no chance. People don't often have spare time to help others out when they too need to keep work coming in. Your best bet is to find a lawyer yourself that you feel comfortable with.

For what its worth I think Australia's Family Courts are pretty good when it comes to the dependent partner, especially when there are kids involved.

From what I have heard, arguing for a larger than 50/50 split can be a lawyer's dream. I suspect a 70/30 split sounds good but it would be good to keep in the back of your mind how much the lawyers costs can add up when trying to get this outcome, possibly leaving you with a worse outcome.

Apart from that, I'm not sure what help other people can provide you. Its now up to you, and if you are still stuck, you are going to fail. You are the only one that can get this sorted out.

Just out of curiosity, what made you ask for advice on a water sports forum? If you aren't a windsurfer or kitesurfer, its an unusual place to start.

Oh yeah, its "he's" and not "his"

Despair
38 posts
6 Dec 2017 5:21PM
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Thankyou nova.

Ive applied today for a pro bono application. See what happens with that.

Ive been fair with the property split, he hasn't.

Like i I said hard to communicated with someone that doesn't care what happens to me or the kids.

Myself i I can take care of myself. But thought he would at least consider the kids.

Most lawyer says that it's gonna cost $$$ to dig into all his outs and ins from his SMSF.

As for me posting on here I came across this site. I was browsing the internet and their was a post from a guy regarding finances and court orders.

By me posting in here might of given me some insight on what to do and if anyone in Perth new someone that could help me or advice me.

Some of the post helped me a lot. Minus a few that like taking the piss.

His financial statements from his super don't add up. He has payments and loans done to himself.
Would like him to be honest but that's not gonna happen.

With the trial in place all will be revealed


thnaks for the reply.

sn
WA, 2775 posts
6 Dec 2017 6:40PM
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keep chasing the pro-bono bit, but at the same time it might be an idea to make enquiries with the ATO.

Chasing hidden and dodgy assets is what they are best at, and they have the expertise.

About all I can suggest, apart from keep your chin up, make the most of the kids - head to the beach for a chill out session or two.

Marsbars
546 posts
6 Dec 2017 7:18PM
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Have CSA been no help I've know a few been nailed by them when it comes to trying to hide finances.
Best advice has been given about legal help otherwise just put everything you have left in bitcoin I've read some really positive things about it.

Despair
38 posts
6 Dec 2017 7:21PM
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For starters I'm not trying to clean him out and he doesn't care if we lose anything. Hmm alarms bells .. saying that's it tucked away sagely for himself.

Him having evidence against me good luck with that. Stay at home mum looking after 5 kids under the age of 6. No infidelity from my part.

As for resolution skills.. not easy when the other person doesn't want any part of it.

Sn... yes hope the pro bono gets granted.

As as for the ATO I have contacted them today. Boy where they interested.

I have always been close with the kids and our relationship is strong.

Beach and chill out sounds awesome will take that onboard. Kids and I are beach lovers.

Thanks for the reply.

Despair
38 posts
6 Dec 2017 7:22PM
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CSA??

busterwa
3782 posts
6 Dec 2017 7:48PM
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Despair
38 posts
6 Dec 2017 7:56PM
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Thought it would be a water sport video. Lol

Despair
38 posts
6 Dec 2017 7:57PM
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Btw. He didn't work 12 hrs a day 6 days a week.

His was 4 days and 6 days off for over 20 years

stoff
WA, 248 posts
6 Dec 2017 8:39PM
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Call Leach Legal, 94869733. If your going to court without a lawyer your going to get screwed, I'm sure he'll have one.

busterwa
3782 posts
6 Dec 2017 9:33PM
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can I ask some questions Despair?
My first question would be What was the main cause/contribution of your breakdown of relationship?

Marsbars
546 posts
7 Dec 2017 5:23AM
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Despair said..
CSA??


Child Support Agency. I assume with kids they are involved??

actiomax
NSW, 1576 posts
7 Dec 2017 10:33AM
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I imagine hes got dvo as first sentence is he was ordered to leave .
So i imagine there all involved.

evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
7 Dec 2017 10:52AM
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Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah ...

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Despair said..
Ive discovered international bank transfers and offshore accounts that his deposited years ago.


Two words for you:

T A X. O F F I C E.

He'll come around quicker than you can say "cash settlement".

I guarantee it. Ex-wives, ex-girlfriends, et al make up the vast majority of tip-offs the tax office get.

Hell, I know a woman right now who is suing a guy that looked after her for 3 years, paid for everything, gave her an allowance, basically a trophy/pet living in luxury. Her case is that because she didn't have to work during this period of time she didn't earn any superannuation, lost career and so on.

Think it's pathetic? I wholeheartedly agree.

But I know she is going to win a pre-trial cash settlement (or a bullet to the head) because "Tax Office".

Despair
38 posts
7 Dec 2017 11:53AM
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Let the tax come ...trust me they will. Let see where his put it. They'll find out.

i was was married to him 20 years not 3 plus had 5 kids from him. And I've been fair in my settlement offer he hasn't.

he pays child support. Doesn't pay the mortgages at all I do. I live in the family home

look I've seen women spend it all so hubby's get none. See the opposite done where men do the same.

My point is if your unhappy no need to be an arse about it. Just say hey ..I'm not happy and go.
Simple. Discuss how assists shouldn't be divided and then we can move on.
But with him it's a no.

What ever happens happens .. and it's not gonna look pretty for him.

Can't wait till this is all over.

thanks for the response.

cauncy
WA, 8407 posts
7 Dec 2017 12:16PM
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Despair said..
Let the tax come ...trust me they will. Let see where his put it. They'll find out.

i was was married to him 20 years not 3 plus had 5 kids from him. And I've been fair in my settlement offer he hasn't.

he pays child support. Doesn't pay the mortgages at all I do. I live in the family home

look I've seen women spend it all so hubby's get none. See the opposite done where men do the same.

My point is if your unhappy no need to be an arse about it. Just say hey ..I'm not happy and go.
Simple. Discuss how assists shouldn't be divided and then we can move on.
But with him it's a no.

What ever happens happens .. and it's not gonna look pretty for him.

Can't wait till this is all over.

thanks for the response.


This has a home and away script written all over it, sell it to the network but you'll have to go halves with the ex

DelFuego
WA, 213 posts
7 Dec 2017 2:03PM
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Hi Despair,
I'm just missing how a settlement of you keeping 70% of any asset plus child support is fair? could you elaborate?

Despair
38 posts
7 Dec 2017 2:47PM
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He doesn't pay the mortgage I do on all 3 loans.

Child support isnt isn't for me that's the kids.
So 70/30 is fair considering he took loans against the home for his personal use.

Also he doesn't support me I support myself.

3 kids are underage. So assets split is higher.

Tequila !
WA, 1028 posts
7 Dec 2017 3:18PM
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Despair said..
He doesn't pay the mortgage I do on all 3 loans.

Child support isnt isn't for me that's the kids.
So 70/30 is fair considering he took loans against the home for his personal use.

Also he doesn't support me I support myself.

3 kids are underage. So assets split is higher.

3 (three) Loans???

Interesting to know how do you service three loans (I suppose primary home plus two investments in NG because if they were positive it wouldn't be a problemo).

Are you working at the moment?

Mark _australia
WA, 23468 posts
7 Dec 2017 9:10PM
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Despair said..
He doesn't pay the mortgage I do on all 3 loans.

Child support isnt isn't for me that's the kids.
So 70/30 is fair considering he took loans against the home for his personal use.

Also he doesn't support me I support myself.

3 kids are underage. So assets split is higher.


I smell a rat.

You said 5 kids under 6 years of age. Now its 3.

If he took loans in his name they are his liability so why are you paying them?

Subsonic
WA, 3355 posts
7 Dec 2017 9:20PM
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The storys not quite right is it.

It seems like a ** stir to me. There were a few stirrers that got the boot from going too far in heavy weather, which has me wondering...



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