Recently acquired the perfect soulmate, won't complain when you are drunk, come home late, lipstick on your doodle etc etc
Now my question is
Should I get him nutted at 6 months as the Vet crowd recommend ? but other owners I speak with say, nah just go with it
Boy (obviously) Staffy, his old man weighs 23kg, so I'm thinkin that'd be a bit to handle in the wrong situation
Just askin other Breezers there thoughts on this going by another topic running at the moment
Just had his 10 week jab today, pills shoved down his throat, some sxxt syringed up his nose, thermometer up his date, strangely
enough he was a little subdued this arvo
Hope to hear some positive and informative replies
Ta
Veebs
Hey there, I've had two purebred staffs now, first one died about two, this one is now about 7. Neither of them were neutered. I personally haven't had any issues with either of them. I found that I took them both to a puppy skool of some description and really socialized and mingled them with other dogs of all sizes and breeds. He is great with other dogs at the park and friendly with kids. Can get slightly possessive of his ball but both my staffs have really loved playing ball to an extreme level.
I can't comment on the pros and cons of neutering as I haven't had a dog done.
Good luck on you're quest for answers.
Hey thanks Hooked
Yeah I'm fully aware of how well natured these hounds are/can be
But I just don't wanna be on the wrong side of a lawsuit or end up on TV, or have my lad removed from me if it can be avoided
So I'm still asking the question, to nut or not to nut
BTW I won't let him become a ball dog, they are much more intelligent than that, and he'll be doin plenty of beach/park time
to keep him occupied
Definitely get him done. If you're not a registered breeder then why do you want him whole. Backyard breeders can be a big problem because they don't understand the issues a breed can have.
I got my Staffy from Staffy rescue in Vicco and the whole reason they exist is because of irresponsible backyarders and deadbeat owners who just don't care.
Staffys are awesome dogs but they do need lots of training. Teach them properly and you'll have the best dog in the world. Don't and you'll have trouble
I would think that if he's done he would be less likely to be stolen by bandits too?
I have 2 purebred Staffs. I had my male Bruno done just a few weeks ago. Since I had no intention of breeding him, I didn't see the point of keeping his knackers. He doesn't miss em. He is still the sooky ball of muscle he always was. He is just over 1 year old. I know there is some lessening of chances of testicular cancer but unsure as to how common this cancer is in male dogs. Still, why take the chance?
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Definitely get him done. If you're not a registered breeder then why do you want him whole. Backyard breeders can be a big problem because they don't understand the issues a breed can have.
I got my Staffy from Staffy rescue in Vicco and the whole reason they exist is because of irresponsible backyarders and deadbeat owners who just don't care.
Staffys are awesome dogs but they do need lots of training. Teach them properly and you'll have the best dog in the world. Don't and you'll have trouble
perfectly said
This is awesome, thanks guys, keep it up
The only reason I'm thinkin of not nuttin him was that, like me, I'd like him to get his rocks off occasionally
But I'm aware of the ramifications of that happening where it was not asked for
And also the agro (apparently) that is possible with said breed, tho I've not seen it yet through friends Staffy's
Keep the comments and opinions coming folks
Ta
Veebs
Good on you Veebs for seeking info before making a call.
My beautiful staffie of 13 years died just over a month ago. She was purebred, registered with papers, bought from a registered breeder as a pup etc. I grew up with the misguided notion that mixed breeds were unpredictable etc, so at the time felt that was the best option. She had good bloodlines, so the breeder talked me into not desexing her to leave options open for a litter one day. The years went past and I never took her down that path. I don't think she was any extra trouble compared to desexed dogs, but she always kept a very lean weight compared to other staffies which was a good thing.
18 months ago her womanly bits became infected and she had to be desexed at 12 years of age to address that issue. Apparently complications with bits that aren't in use can be quite common. In my un-expert opinion, things went downhill very quickly for her since the late desexing - almost instant loss of energy, weight gain, hormonal lumps. From what I now understand, when desexed young before the hormones have kicked in, the body adjusts. When it happens suddenly when old, it's a massive shock to the system. If I had my time again, I would desex as a pup without hesitation. No dramas of being on heat, cheaper registration, no risk of associated health issues and no risk of accidental breeding.
In recent days I have started to look at adopting a new dog. I have been horrified by the euthanasia stats in Australia. I will always adopt homeless dogs from now on. The number of staffies in particular needing homes is FRIGHTENING - even purebred. If interested, check out www.pestrescue.org.au. There are also some interesting euthanasia stats by Council area in NSW at http://www.savingpets.com.au/nsw-pound-survey-201112/. A bit of Googling pulls up similar stats for other states. Thousands of beautiful healthy happy dogs put to sleep each year because we as a community don't want them.
So I guess my hot tip? Go the snip. Despite your best efforts, your mate may one day slip out of your yard for some action as per the other thread. Better to be safe than even accidentally contribute to a sad problem.
Other sad fact is how quick many Councils are to euthanase with minimal to no effort to locate owners (even when chipped and registered) or rehome. Many stories similar to the other thread - any excuse to euthanase, dogs euthanased within hours of pick up before the owners noticed they were missing etc. Very sad. The good news is, there are some Councils and communities who have really picked up the ball on this issue and are now not euthanasing ANY rehomable dogs. Euthanasia rates down from over 50% to under 10% with only terminally ill or seriously aggressive animals being euthanased.
Lots of sadness in this issue, but lots of hope too. Australians love dogs and our dogs bring us so much joy. We owe it to them to try harder 
Wiping away the tears Salt
One man, one dog, is the avenue I'm headin down
And I think you just confirmed it
Veebs
The problem of getting laid today is that you want more tomorrow.
I feel he will get all the love and attention he needs so do him the favour!
Take away this male curse we are born with and free him of it.
Took our 2 pups to a vet in Canberra 9 years ago. He desexed one, took one look at the the other and said "don't worry about him, he won't have pups". So far he's been right. It's only necessary to desex one of the sexes. If someone, registered breeder or not, has an undesexed female, they're intending her to have pups. Desexing the odd male isn't going to stop that. Modern requirements to keep your dog supervised make the chances of your dog fathering an unintended litter very low.
The observation that most of the unwanted dogs are Staffies suggests there is fair a bit of human direction involved in the "unwanted" pairings.
A pitbull is the most dangerous dog in the world, this is not disputable. And... the problem is even worse when the dog is an unaltered male.
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A pitbull is the most dangerous dog in the world, this is not disputable. And... the problem is even worse when the dog is an unaltered male.
Pitbulls are scary. A huge unrestrained pit bull with dangling knackers charged up to our two (on leads) the other day. We were all pretty tense, the owner of course yells out "Don't worry he wouldn't hurt a fly". Yeah right, never mind that it took us all 15 minutes to calm down.
My suggestion refers to dogs that don't have any pit-fighting genes in their pedigree. (I suppose that includes Staffies?)
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Staffie, pitbull, same thing.
You obviously don't know what you're talking about.
English Staffys are completely different to pitbulls.
And for the record... There are no dangerous dogs... just dangerous owners. Train your dog properly and it won't be dangerous.
Having said that... it is still your responsibility to keep your dog under effective control at all times. That's something most dog owners don't understand.
Select to expand quoteMahanumah said..Beaglebuddy said...
Staffie, pitbull, same thing.
You obviously don't know what you're talking about.
English Staffys are completely different to pitbulls.
And for the record... There are no dangerous dogs... just dangerous owners. Train your dog properly and it won't be dangerous.
Having said that... it is still your responsibility to keep your dog under effective control at all times. That's something most dog owners don't understand.
Well said , its not the dog , just like your kids , it's all about the correct upbringing ( training).
My pittbull died 2 yrs ago at 12yrs, the BEST dog have ever had , happiest most loving pet (best mate) have ever had the pleasure to own.
Previous dog was a cross between a staghound , staffy and blue healer, should have nutted him , he became too protective over me and family , great dog but no nuts would have calmed him down so I"m told.
Anyone looking for a great dog could do a lit worse than going here:
Www.staffordrescuevictoria.org.au
Got my Staffy from here. Best dog ever. They take rescues from all over the country, assess each dog and provide full details of the type of environment that would suit. Obviously the nutso ones are put down but all the rest will respond well to training and love.
All dogs leaving here are neutered so don't even ask. Duty of care and all that.
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kk said..
I would think that if he's done he would be less likely to be stolen by bandits too?
Well I hope for their sake their Machete is bigger than mine
edit : Not quite sure how I embedded that pic into your post, but ahh
Thanks to all of you for your informative opinions
Looks like we're heading off to the chopping block Big Guy (sorry, was talking to the hound)
Tho still 3 months away I know he's gonna love me for it (not)
Select to expand quoteMahanumah said..Beaglebuddy said...
Staffie, pitbull, same thing.
You obviously don't know what you're talking about.
English Staffys are completely different to pitbulls.
And for the record... There are no dangerous dogs... just dangerous owners. Train your dog properly and it won't be dangerous.
Having said that... it is still your responsibility to keep your dog under effective control at all times. That's something most dog owners don't understand.
For the record, the correct name is Staffordshire Bull Terrier (where the breed originated).
I don't think staffys or pit-bulls are a beginners dog and there can be no doubt that because of this, staffs figure so prominently in rescue stats.
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Thanks to all of you for your informative opinions
Looks like we're heading off to the chopping block Big Guy (sorry, was talking to the hound)
Tho still 3 months away I know he's gonna love me for it (not)
Nah, he won't even know they are gone. Good decision.
Select to expand quoteAdos said..VB MAN said..
Thanks to all of you for your informative opinions
Looks like we're heading off to the chopping block Big Guy (sorry, was talking to the hound)
Tho still 3 months away I know he's gonna love me for it (not)
Nah, he won't even know they are gone. Good decision.
Ta
But I kinda wonder if it was me, and how happy I'd be about it
I don't know how quickly staffies develop, but when I got my golden retriever pup I did a bit of research and in general people recommended not to get him desexed till around 12 months. First year is quite important as far as development of your pup goes and he needs the hormones to develop properly.
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I don't know how quickly staffies develop, but when I got my golden retriever pup I did a bit of research and in general people recommended not to get him desexed till around 12 months. First year is quite important as far as development of your pup goes and he needs the hormones to develop properly.
I can understand desexing a pit-fighting breed to calm them down but a Golden Retriever? They are already overly calm, they don't jump fences, unwanted reproduction is out of the question.
We'd had our previous whippet 6 years before I finally relented and let an insistent vet desex him while he was under the knife for another condition. I'd resisted their suggestions for years. If anything it made him worse, he became even crankier. Don't blame him. And it didn't drop his non-existent reproductive rate either. Found another vet.
Select to expand quoteVB MAN said..Ados said..VB MAN said..
Thanks to all of you for your informative opinions
Looks like we're heading off to the chopping block Big Guy (sorry, was talking to the hound)
Tho still 3 months away I know he's gonna love me for it (not)
Nah, he won't even know they are gone. Good decision.
Ta
But I kinda wonder if it was me, and how happy I'd be about it
It depends. How many times do you greet people by sniffing their bum?
Dogs would have no concept of what they have missed, so its not going to bother him in the slightest other than potentially making it a calmer dog and less likely to run off.
Select to expand quoteSpaceCoyote said..
I don't know how quickly staffies develop, but when I got my golden retriever pup I did a bit of research and in general people recommended not to get him desexed till around 12 months. First year is quite important as far as development of your pup goes and he needs the hormones to develop properly.
I think I read something that suggests that if you don't get them snipped by an early age, it is too late to stop the behavior that you were wanting to stop.
That would add insult to injury. Behavioral problems and no nuts.
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VB MAN said..
Ados said..
VB MAN said..
Thanks to all of you for your informative opinions
Looks like we're heading off to the chopping block Big Guy (sorry, was talking to the hound)
Tho still 3 months away I know he's gonna love me for it (not)
Nah, he won't even know they are gone. Good decision.
Ta
But I kinda wonder if it was me, and how happy I'd be about it
It depends. How many times do you greet people by sniffing their bum?
Dogs would have no concept of what they have missed, so its not going to bother him in the slightest other than potentially making it a calmer dog and less likely to run off.
Hey Nova
I'm pleading the fifth on your opening line. But there are plenty of women out there that just love...... OK, stop it there Veebs 
But I don't want him to be a wimp dog, and that is what my question is all about
I still want him to be a bloke dog, and is nutting him gonna lessen his abilities as far as being balls to the wall confident ?
I:E someone jumping over the fence
Get him desexed mate I have had three staffies all purebred over the last thirty years all males and all desexed I dont understand as far as wanting a balls to the wall confident dog you should have got a Jack Russell terrier
A typical day for my staffy entails
>7am wake up drop a fart
>grab a mouthful af biscuits and a peice of vegemite toast off the kids go back to sleep whilst farting and snoring
> wake up about 11am go through doggie door grab two kilos of flour out of the pantry spread it around the house with his best mate pixie the fox terrier whilst farting all the time
> crash till 3pm snore and fart wake up see what kids have got left in their lunch boxes while farting
>crash till 730pm walk to dishwasher see whats left on the plates fart go back to bed snore and fart till next morning
staffies dont make good guard dogs mate we rely on our little foxy to protect the house
